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[POLL] Have you had Covid-19 before?

Have you had Covid-19?

  • No

    Votes: 159 46.2%
  • Yes

    Votes: 118 34.3%
  • Don't know / Never been tested

    Votes: 67 19.5%

  • Total voters
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What about supply and demand is conspiratorial @Lacius?
You've still not provided a single link to this post, which is what this was about in the first place
99% of the people who died right after getting vaccinated "cannot be evaluated" of it being due to the vaccine due to it possibly being a coincidence yet 110% of people who died while having coronavirus in their system are all corona deaths. This is an obvious double-standard.
Why are you still dragging this out? Post a link, at this point it could literally be anything, just as long as we understand where this information came from.
 
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You've still not provided a single link to this post, which is what this was about in the first place

Why are you still dragging this out? Post a link, at this point it could literally be anything, just as long as we understand where this information came from.
He's objectively only got conjecture and conspiracy theories.
 
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He's objectively only got conjecture and conspiracy theories.
I am aware but I am interested if this actually came from somewhere or if he just made it up. At least the other conspiracy nuts actually post their sources. Sure, they misquote them or they have links to some cult, but at least they are being posted.
 

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It is not a jump to say that financially incentivized bias is going to yield results. That's not a conspiracy theory, lol. That's economics.
I feel like you are trying to change the topic because you still got nothing on literally everything you've posted. Just in case you forgot, we still haven't moved past this point
99% of the people who died right after getting vaccinated "cannot be evaluated" of it being due to the vaccine due to it possibly being a coincidence yet 110% of people who died while having coronavirus in their system are all corona deaths. This is an obvious double-standard.
 
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It is not a jump to say that financially incentivized bias is going to yield results. That's not a conspiracy theory, lol. That's economics.
Actually, it's an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory when you say it's what's happening, particularly when we have evidence the numbers are right. The deaths are more homogenous than the hospitalizations, and the numbers comport with what we're seeing all around the world where your alleged biases don't exist.

You're doing a lot more than acknowledging possible pressures for bias. You're saying it's happening. Demonstrate this claim.
 
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Actually, it's an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory when you say it's what's happening, particularly when we have evidence the numbers are right. The deaths are more homogenous than the hospitalizations, and the numbers comport with what we're seeing all around the world where your alleged biases don't exist.

You're doing a lot more than acknowledging possible pressures for bias. You're saying it's happening. Demonstrate this claim.

What is happening is that the numbers are financially incentivized to report one way over the other. This will get a larger number than an honest %100 accountability--the %110 I reference. I think that's generous. You are being unreasonable.

all around the world where your alleged biases don't exist
This is news to me. Are you suggesting that the methods of data collection differ that much from country to country? If so, how could that be seen as "comporting"? Afaik, the methods of data collection are largely led by the recommendations of the WHO and CDC.
 

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What is happening is that the numbers are financially incentivized to report one way over the other. This will get a larger number than an honest %100 accountability--the %110 I reference. I think that's generous. You are being unreasonable.
Instead of repeating your claim, can you demonstrate this is actually causing a significant misreporting to occur?
 

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I feel like you are trying to change the topic because you still got nothing on literally everything you've posted. Just in case you forgot, we still haven't moved past this point
I think he means that CDC's definition of unvaccinated is “<14 (less than 14) days receipt of the first dose of a 2-dose series or 1 dose of the single-dose vaccine or if no vaccination registry data were available.” This means adverse events and deaths occurring within these circumstances would be counted by CDC as "unvaccinated" if they are even counted at all.
 
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Instead of repeating your claim, can you demonstrate this is actually causing a significant misreporting to occur?
Suggesting that it is more reasonable to doubt that financial incentive would influence a reporting outcome is outrageous.

It's like denying that lobbying exists.
 

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Suggesting that it is more reasonable to doubt that financial incentive would influence a reporting outcome is outrageous.

It's like denying that lobbying exists.
Suggesting how something could happen is not evidence it's actually occurring. I've also made numerous points as to how a significant misreporting is unlikely.
 

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I think he means that CDC's definition of unvaccinated is “<14 (less than 14) days receipt of the first dose of a 2-dose series or 1 dose of the single-dose vaccine or if no vaccination registry data were available.” This means adverse events and deaths occurring within these circumstances would be counted by CDC as "unvaccinated" if they are even counted at all.

That's an aspect I didn't consider. I was mainly referencing this (English for you).
 
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Suggesting how something could happen is not evidence it's actually occurring. I've also made numerous points as to how a significant misreporting is unlikely.
Paying people to have Covid is going to yield more people with Covid than if you were not to pay them. If you are bought and paid for by Pfizer, too, I would not be surprised.
 

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I once had (according to my doctor) an extremely severe case of the flu yet I felt perfectly fine. The only reason I even went to the doctor is I wasn't hungry for 3 days and didn't eat anything for those 3 days. My sister on the other hand, couldn't even get out of bed when she had it and she's pissed at me for having it easy.

I know way too people who have gotten COVID. This past week I've had to stay at my grandmother's house with my mother as my sister's fiancé got it and I wasn't taking any chances. For some reason my sister has felt perfectly fine the whole time even though they sleep in the same room.
 

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Paying people to have Covid is going to yield more people with Covid than if you were not to pay them. If you are bought and paid for by Pfizer, too, I would not be surprised.
Saying fraud could be committed is not evidence fraud has been committed.

got it twice and some how still am the only person in my house whose been fully vaccinated
Two doses, which is what's normally meant by fully vaccinated, is only somewhat effective against omicron. Even with a booster, there is a significant (but low) chance of getting omicron. The good news is your symptoms were likely milder because of the vaccinations.
 
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