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Austria first country to make Covid vaccine mandatory
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- I am pro vaccine mandates. If you want to ride a train, present proof of vaccination. If you want to enter most public buildings, present proof of vaccination. If you want to attend public school, present proof of vaccination. If you want to work in healthcare, or most other jobs for that matter, present proof of vaccination. If, however, you don't want to get vaccinated and don't want to make use of privileges that require vaccination by staying the hell away from the rest of us, that's 100% fine with me.
If you don't see the parallels, I'm not sure I can make clearer than I already have. If you think people should be able to do whatever they want without proof of vaccination, then to be logically consistent, you should think I should be able to do whatever I want naked. The only difference is only one of these situations carries the substantial risk of spreading a potentially deadly infectious disease, and it isn't my hypothetical nudity. If you think I should have to wear clothes for certain privileges like walking around a public space, then to be logically consistent, you should have no problem with the same kind of vaccine mandates.
With regard to the post you quoted, you should probably take a look at my response to it.
This is as ridiculous a position as being frustrated that you can't be unvaccinated wherever you want. In fact, the nudity frustration may be less ridiculous.
Honestly it's more redicoulus how people are so cool with getting injected with shots other than pushing medical companies into releasing over the counter drugs you could just walk into any store and buy. How little do we stop and realize how these companies producing vaccines are billion dollar industries that could pull over the counter options but instead govern it by forcing us to get injected with needles. Sure the rona virus isn't as well treated as the common cold but I'm 100% sure they could take the formula and make it into another form factor we could easily acquire. Without going to a doctor for vaccine after vaccine booster after booster etc...
What reason would they have for pulling over the counter options? Whether it's needles or over the counter, if their end goal is to get something into your body why favor one over the other if the end result is the same?
So you could free up a doctor or nurses time by buying something over the counter that works just as well as a shot? Or we wouldn't have things like ibuprofen. We forget there are other countries with little to no medical advantages that can still acquire covid so a shot isn't the end all to end it imo.
You would still need to go to a physician for proper dosage and prescription
https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/9-things-to-know-about-covid-pill
The shots are safe and effective, and what they do is train your body so your own natural immune system can take care of itself. I'm not sure why you'd prefer drugs that you take after already getting infected and suffering the associated consequences. To use an analogy, I don't know why you'd prefer bullet-removal surgery over a bullet-proof vest.
The same pharmaceutical companies are also working hard to get COVID-19 treatments out to the public as quickly/safely as possible. We should use all the tools we have available.
Edit: And the existence of a treatment isn't an excuse to not get vaccinated, since the spread of disease is still a concern that the former doesn't mitigate against.
While it is true that a lack of evidence can indeed discredit a proposition, it does not automatically disprove it completely. If there is no evidence of your cat at your house, then perhaps your cat lives in another house, or maybe you do a very good job of cleaning. Maybe your house is really big, and the part the cat lives in hasn't been inspected. In order to have a better idea of where the virus came from, more investigation is needed. Some of that investigation will never be possible because of interference from the CCP, which makes them look highly suspicious.
Apparently, Fauci agrees/d with me.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/24/politics/fauci-donald-trump-coronavirus/index.html
I'm not really up to date on the latest coronavirus genetic analysis, so maybe there have been some discoveries since then that I am not aware of.
If you assume the virus was used for gain of function research, then I suppose it would be somewhat relevant, since the point of that kind of research is to predict new diseases and to develop vaccines and treatments.
I got vaccinated once. The side effects were pretty bad. If I ever get vaccinated again for any disease, I would definitely want to know the risk of side effects.
Okay so that's basically for like anything the point of OTCs is to know it works as well as a shot and most have things called instructions on bottles to tell you how much to take.
Certain drugs require prescriptions, and for good reason. A lot of drugs are harmful and/or lethal with the wrong dosages. The overuse and/or improper usage of some drugs like antibiotics can lead to resistance that affects us all.
The vaccine doesn't require a prescription, Tylenol doesn't require a prescription. If we can get it to that level that's the only way I see things calming down not just getting a shot whenever your government tells you to.
Funny how even though most people take regular shots, like flu shots and other shots to prevent the disease, but when they don't want to take the experimental coof shot they're anti-vaxxers. Makes sense to me.
I do think people should be able to be naked wherever they want. Being able to do whatever you want is another point I'm not trying to focus on.
I think being compelled to provide your vaccine status is just invasive and opens up a bigger can of worms in a supposed attempt of closing the can of worms that's already loosed. Your "solution" is tyranny disguised as benevolence.
I did. There was some rationalization, based on things that are subjective to scientific advancement/capability/classifications. All in all, too much pearl clutching and blindness to the point being made. We shouldn't wait until a new type of holocaust happens before we say it's sensitively okay to notice the patterns and trends currently observable of history. That's a poor excuse to feigning ignorance. You'd sooner march blind into a preventable dystopia--because it's insensitive to attempt to critique our ways based on something that had already happened.
That's the point I'm making until it's in other forms that's the only way I see it calming down and like I said not just having a shot whenever your government tells you to.
I'm not convinced of any one origin claim, but I acknowledge that there's probably a >99% chance it occurred naturally, and even if it was human-made, it doesn't mean it was nefarious, which to your credit I think you acknowledged. I'm not against investigations into the origins, but to actually believe the virus was human-made at this point is, by definition, baseless conspiratorial thinking. I don't think we're in disagreement.
I'm sorry about your previous experiences with vaccines. The odds of serious side effects with the COVID-19 vaccines are extremely low, and your odds of suffering from the actual disease are significantly higher.
You can't just buy vaccinations for yourself. It has to be administered. Tylenol is a specific drug that should require a prescription and probably wouldn't have been FDA approved in 2021. The dosage is not significantly different from a harmful dosage.
Huh? Why should a harmless drug be prescription required? Psychotic such as Xanax sure prescribe them but what's the harm in something that helps cure the common cold that's been around since the 50s need a prescription for? Let's put it this way if you're constipated and haven't shit in a few days would you rather buy a dollar laxative known it to work or run to your doctor saying you haven't been able to shit for a week.
Why are we cool with needles and not something you could just buy thats known to work?
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