Austria first country to make Covid vaccine mandatory

Lacius · Dec 4, 2021

plasturion said:
I would say, there's no any other act that bring so massive negative effect to everyone around as murdering innocent people. You want to stop real illnes, just don't support dr. Mengele and genocide.

Embryos and fetuses are not people.
Abortion is not murder: It's the termination of a pregnancy.
Obviously, I don't support Mengele, genocide, or anything like them. If you're making an inflammatory and antisemitic comparison between Mengele and Fauci, I'll just quote what the Auschwitz Museum had to say about it. @p1ngpong, you should probably pay attention.

“Exploiting the tragedy of people who became victims of criminal pseudo-medical experiments in Auschwitz in a debate about vaccines, pandemic and people who fight for saving human lives is shameful. It is disrespectful to victims & a sad symptom of moral and intellectual decline."

It should go without saying that trivializing the atrocities of the Holocaust is shameful and antisemitic, but here we are.

XDel · Dec 4, 2021

Alexander1970 · Dec 4, 2021

p1ngpong said:
Very disturbing turn things are taking in the world. Anyone who is celebrating these developments of governments forcing a vaccine onto grown adults is very short sighted and does not know history.

I am saying this as a person who is double jabbed, wears a mask in public and encourages people to be jabbed by the way.

If it comes to the point where this is forced on people in the UK and peoples abilities to live their lives is restricted if they are not vaccinated I will protest on the streets.

It is funny, people would mock others who warned about these sort of thing potentially happening years ago as conspiracy theorists. Now, after a couple of years of hardcore scare mongering people are practically willing to shove their fellow citizen onto a train to Auschwitz for not conforming to the regimes rules.

Thank you.

SG854 · Dec 4, 2021

XDel said:

Biden is hypocritical. Video made me laugh when he spit on that woman without wearing a mask after he is adamant about wearing a mask.

I didn't laugh at the fact he could cause harm to the woman. I laughed because of his hypocriticalness.

Alexander1970 said:
Thank you.

I would agree that forcing anyone to do anything about the vaccine is bad. But I don't take seriously anti vaxers and the arguments they present. @p1nglooks like one of those people that supports the vaccine, since he is vaxed, but doesn't support governments forcing it upon people. And I think this is the best approach to take right now.

XDel · Dec 4, 2021

Nearly EVERYTHING you need to know...

Does anyone follow the news coming out of the U.N. or World Economic Forum Web sites? That's where these strategies that people call conspiracy theory come from. Eugenics, Population Control, Digital Tracking, Implants, Remote Monitoring, Remote Shut Down of Bio-Organic Systems, etc. For your health... because THEY LOVE YOU, of course!

subcon959 · Dec 4, 2021

There are some really weird arguments going on here. The abortion analogy was supposed to be about government intervention/mandates.. not the butterfly effect lol.

Lacius · Dec 4, 2021

XDel said:
Nearly EVERYTHING you need to know...

Does anyone follow the news coming out of the U.N. or World Economic Forum Web sites? That's where these strategies that people call conspiracy theory come from. Eugenics, Population Control, Digital Tracking, Implants, Remote Monitoring, Remote Shut Down of Bio-Organic Systems, etc. For your health... because THEY LOVE YOU, of course!

There is no evidence that COVID-19 or the vaccines have anything to do with "Eugenics, Population Control, Digital Tracking, Implants, Remote Monitoring, Remote Shut Down of Bio-Organic Systems, etc." These are baseless conspiracy theories. In fact, the vaccines have been demonstrated to be safe and effective.

Lucaserf · Dec 4, 2021

man moderation is lacking rn, guy went full paranoia and no one bats an eye. Most of the content here is either taken out of context or not even related to the discussion in hand.

XDel said:
Nearly EVERYTHING you need to know...

Does anyone follow the news coming out of the U.N. or World Economic Forum Web sites? That's where these strategies that people call conspiracy theory come from. Eugenics, Population Control, Digital Tracking, Implants, Remote Monitoring, Remote Shut Down of Bio-Organic Systems, etc. For your health... because THEY LOVE YOU, of course!

XDel · Dec 4, 2021

Lucaserf said:
man moderation is lacking rn, guy went full paranoia and no one bats an eye. Most of the content here is either taken out of context or not even related to the discussion in hand.

You watched all that already???? AMAZING!!! I mean, because THEY ARE SAYING IT!!!!

Lacius · Dec 4, 2021

XDel said:
You watched all that already???? AMAZING!!! I mean, because THEY ARE SAYING IT!!!!

I'd be surprised if anybody watched your videos. Why should they?

Zajumino · Dec 4, 2021

smf said:
That isn't what I said, you thought I said a stupid thing because that is your default stance.

No, it's racist when you attack another country and blame them when it was a natural event.

Back in the beginning the racists were saying along the lines of "those dirty chinese, it was those awful wet markets fault, they should ban them". when the evidence isn't strong that it jumped to humans at the wet market.

But I guess that is too nuanced for you to understand.

As for climate change, yes china do produce a lot of the pollution. However we need to accept some of that blame as we've all outsourced most of our manufacturing to there, so singling them out is like a game of "stop hitting yourself".

Blaming a country for something is not racist, regardless of its validity. What is racist is to treat people differently because you associate their race with that country.

I don't know who "the racists" are or what they say, but this is what I think:

The CCP tried to cover up the virus.
There is not enough evidence to show that they created the virus, but it is possible that they might have.
They have tried to punish countries (like Australia) for calling for an investigation into the origin or the virus.

While the virus itself was natural (maybe), China deserves to be blamed for acting selfishly at the expense of everyone else.

Meanwhile, South Africa is punished for doing the right thing.

Lacius · Dec 4, 2021

Zajumino said:
Blaming a country for something is not racist, regardless of its validity. What is racist is to treat people differently because you associate their race with that country.

I don't know who "the racists" are or what they say, but this is what I think:

The CCP tried to cover up the virus.

There is not enough evidence to show that they created the virus, but it is possible that they might have.

They have tried to punish countries (like Australia) for calling for an investigation into the origin or the virus.

While the virus itself was natural (maybe), China deserves to be blamed for acting selfishly at the expense of everyone else.

Meanwhile, South Africa is punished for doing the right thing.

The genetic evidence suggests the virus was naturally occurring, and until the evidence changes, the suggesting it was human-made is no more than a conspiracy theory.

XDel · Dec 4, 2021

Lacius said:
I'd be surprised if anybody watched your videos. Why should they?

It's called wanting to learn, wanting to think for your self, wanting to know truth. And yes, my channels are slowly growing, so someone is watching.

Lucaserf · Dec 4, 2021

XDel said:
You watched all that already???? AMAZING!!! I mean, because THEY ARE SAYING IT!!!!

Your videos are highly edited, nitpicking small parts of different videos with the purpose of creating an entirely different context of what is or was being discussed. The Pfzier CEO video is a great example of it, he did not say or imply that he profits from emotional manipulation. On the contrary, people like you, who spread misinformation disguised as "help", are trying to profit from the fear and ignorance of others.

Edit: grammar

Lacius · Dec 4, 2021

XDel said:
It's called wanting to learn, wanting to think for your self, wanting to know truth. And yes, my channels are slowly growing, so someone is watching.

Your videos are the antithesis to truth, and all you're doing is posting a barrage of bad videos without context. That isn't how discussion forums work, or we would all be posting videos past each other.

Edit: as for caring about the truth, that requires skepticism, and engaging in conspiratorial thinking isn't skepticism.

Alexander1970 · Dec 4, 2021

SG854 said:
I would agree that forcing anyone to do anything about the vaccine is bad. But I don't take seriously anti vaxers and the arguments they present. @p1nglooks like one of those people that supports the vaccine, since he is vaxed, but doesn't support governments forcing it upon people. And I think this is the best approach to take right now.

The main Problem in Austria is at the moment,the REAL Anti Vaccine/Refuser/Denier People are getting more and more "aggressiv"...

For the over 68% vaccinated Austrian Citizen,the Media (mainly ORF and Kronen Zeitung,both politically "motivated"....) are presenting a totally wrong "View".....

As I said in a previous Post,the near 1 Million unvaccinated People in Austria are mainly confused and unsure,have fear because of really bad misinformations from Politics AND the Medical Side...
And it is really not getting better..now the Children are getting their Shots...and first Cases are "appearing" about "Side Effects" on them....that REALLY not helps for these People.

Also for the "inactivated Vaccines" - suddenly the "Speed of getting the Permissions" are slowed down..now it seems,that the first one will permitted for next Year earliest instead of this Year.....very good for Pfizer/Biontech for Decembers "Vaccination Lottery Games" in Austria....

PLEASE do not throw ALL People in one POT !

Dakitten · Dec 4, 2021

Lucaserf said:
Your videos are highly edited, nitpicking small parts of different videos with the purpose of creating an entirely different context of what is or was being discussed. The Pfzier CEO video is a great example of it, he did not say or imply that he profits from emotional manipulation. On the contrary, people like you, who spread misinformation disguised as "help", are trying to profit from the fear and ignorance of others.

Edit: grammar

He learned that from project Veritas

XDel · Dec 4, 2021

Lacius said:
Your videos are the antithesis to truth, and all you're doing is posting a barrage of bad videos without context. That isn't how discussion forums work, or we would all be posting videos past each other.

Edit: as for caring about the truth, that requires skepticism, and engaging in conspiratorial thinking isn't skepticism.

The difference is that I source that actual sources such as Klaus Schwab, The World Economic Forum, and so forth.

You on the other hand have so far quoted WIKI. So I mean if your debate must remain within the domain of own and controlled TV media and what WIKI says, then we're never arrive anywhere.

XDel · Dec 4, 2021

Dakitten said:
He learned that from project Veritas

If I were editing to twist something to fit my context I would have learned that from Fox, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, Al Jazeera, BBC, The Guardian, and so forth. You know... those who are owned by those who own the satellites in the sky and those who sell you every consumer product you are addicted to...
...on which note, you aren't one of those kids who's parents bought them an expensive iPhone so you put an anarchy sticker on it are you?!?!

BTW, who ever started this post.... you are welcome for the points!!!

Lucaserf · Dec 4, 2021

XDel said:
If I were editing to twist something to fit my context I would have learned that from Fox, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, Al Jazeera, BBC, The Guardian, and so forth. You know... those who are owned by those who own the satellites in the sky and those who sell you every consumer product you are addicted to...
...on which note, you aren't one of those kids who's parents bought them an expensive iPhone so you put an anarchy sticker on it are you?!?!

BTW, who ever started this post.... you are welcome for the points!!!

You literally posted WION media, no difference between it and something like Fox News, Al Jazeera, RT Today, etc.

XDel said:
The difference is that I source that actual sources such as Klaus Schwab, The World Economic Forum, and so forth.

You on the other hand have so far quoted WIKI. So I mean if your debate must remain within the domain of own and controlled TV media and what WIKI says, then we're never arrive anywhere.

The wiki most of the time is well sourced and neutral, unlike what you have posted. Also, you can always open a discussion in the wiki pages about the validity of its claims.

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