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Austria first country to make Covid vaccine mandatory

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It is just weird that both the vaccine and covid has become a government death conspiracy. At least chose one, since you only need one of those for that conspiracy.

Stupid ideas propagate faster within people who lack intelligence.

If opposing stupid ideas find a host that will believe anything, then they can both reproduce.
 

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Why an Austrian ? Because of the excellent Situation (for the mandatory Vacciation) we actual have here ?

https://orf.at/stories/3238373/

Austrians new WHO crisis manager in Europe Gerald Rockenschaub from Austria has been appointed Director of Health Emergencies in the European Region of the World Health Organization (WHO).
"I am very pleased that an Austrian doctor and public health expert has been appointed to this high position in the WHO," said Health Minister Wolfgang Mückstein (Greens) yesterday.
Rockenschaub, who was born in Styria, will become "the top crisis manager for health emergencies in Europe" and, as such, will support regional director Hans Kluge in the fight against the Covid 19 pandemic, according to a press release from the Ministry of Health.

Countries of the EU,be warned - you all will be next with the Mandatory Vaccination.....😠
 
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I enjoyed the video description.

"Covid-19 is an artificially created bio-weapon designed to be rolled out in stages against humanity, ending in societal collapse and 90% depopulation.
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I mean, I know that the money I'm going to make from this pandemic will not be spendable anywhere in the near future, but it is easier to accrue than firewood.
 

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"Covid-19 is an artificially created bio-weapon designed to be rolled out in stages against humanity, ending in societal collapse and 90% depopulation.
I'm looking forward to their xmas greatest hits albums of all their best paranoid delusions.

What is laughable is they think anyone is competent enough to pull it off. If I'm wrong, then they are so competent that me worrying about it is pointless.

If you were going to roll out a bio weapon, then the people you would want to save are those who would get vaccinated. The special snowflakes who are bitching on social media about swollen testicles, magnetism and 5g are the ones you would kill. If I'm wrong, then I certainly don't want to live in a world full of those retards.
 
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What’s actually weird about this whole situation is that the approach towards the virus flipped 180 over time. Before COVID-19 became a global pandemic, the “right-wing conspiracy theorists” were warning everybody about a virus hailing from China that is capable of wiping out millions and the western press dismissed it as “just a flu, bro”. Now, over a year later, the “right-wing conspiracy theorists” are complaining about everybody overreacting to “just a flu, bro” while the western press is panicking as if this thing was an airborne Ebola. Both of those approaches are equally stupid, but the fact that the two sides, the ultra liberals and the ultra conservatives, completely passed by each other without ever meeting anywhere in the middle, is pretty funny. Makes your noggin’ go jogging, at no point was anyone ever “chill”, which makes me question whether a sensible middle ground even exists.
What I remember are people going around calling it the "Chinese flu" and how unreliable Trump is in general, which probably generally delayed people's response to it. Meanwhile, you had Trump downplaying the virus the whole time, while simultaneously trying to take credit for doing something against the "not a big deal" virus.


Please tell me, what's the middle ground between magnetic arms, 5G chips and bioweapons vs mask, vaccines and social distancing?

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If opposing stupid ideas find a host that will believe anything, then they can both reproduce.
Tbf, maybe these aren't the same people, but I haven't read or seen any debates between the two ideas.
 
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What I remember are people going around calling it the "Chinese flu" and how unreliable Trump is in general, which probably generally delayed people's response to it. Meanwhile, you had Trump downplaying the virus the whole time, while simultaneously trying to take credit for doing something against the "not a big deal" virus.


Please tell me, what's the middle ground between magnetic arms, 5G chips and bioweapons vs mask, vaccines and social distancing?
We have a very different recollection of the events, except only one of those is backed up by actual sources. I remember pretty distinctly that “sources”, including the WHO, dismissed the virus to the point that even human-to-human transmission was questioned, until it was too late.



Here’s Axios kindly reminding readers that if they’re panicking about the coronavirus, they should be more concerned about the flu:

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-i...tes-64311582-2031-40af-8ec3-9ff68341d4f3.html

The Daily Beast coming at you with a similar brain dead take, although they seem to have “updated” it later, by which I mean “wiping egg off their face”:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/flu-not-coronavirus-is-the-virus-killing-us-kids-like-luca-calanni

A lot of the articles from more mainstream publications were straight up deleted, but I’m sure pesky little users archived them accordingly. The comparisons to the flu didn’t start with Trump, they were started by the press, and the Internet never forgets. The people most concerned about the virus, back when it was still called “spontaneous pneumonia”, were exclusively on the “conspiracy theorist” side of the Internet, and the sole reason why they were concerned was because the Chinese government was welding people’s doors shut and at the same time, the WHO was informing the world that “there is no evidence of human-to-human transmission” and we should all chill. The containment actions taken by the Chinese government that people saw with their own eyes thanks to whistleblowers online did not match what we were being told, so doubt was a rather natural reaction. The overwhelming sentiment among the right was “they know something that they’re not telling us”, and this sentiment turned out to be correct.

As for your quip regarding medical quackery, I’m not entirely sure why you ascribe it specifically to right-wingers considering it’s historically the left that subscribes to all sorts of alternative medicine, from “healing crystals” all the way to homeopathy. Not five minutes ago in historical terms the most wealthy and densely liberal areas of America had the lowest rates of vaccination against small pox etc., comparable to South Sudan - those people are not rabid Trump supporters, they’re as blue as the open sea.

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/380252/

Regarding Trump, he took immediate action by banning travel from affected areas, he tried to prevent a national panic by downplaying the virus in speeches, but handled the situation fairly well in terms of actions taken, which is completely understandable to me. This conversation is two years out of date. You can have your own opinion on the subject, but last I checked, when banning travel, a perfectly sensible mitigation strategy, was introduced, the left responded with “that’s racist”, and with Nancy Pelosi parading across Chinatown to lick some doorknobs. I’m sorry, you might have acute amnesia, but I don’t. Maybe you weren’t clued in on what’s happening in December 2019/January 2020, but I was, and I remember the origin of “it’s just a flu, bro” very well.
 

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I'm gonna be a bit harsher on Trump as it took him a rather long time to figure out Fauci was untrustworthy.. and let's not forget the stuff about bleach and UV light.
 

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I'm gonna be a bit harsher on Trump as it took him a rather long time to figure out Fauci was untrustworthy.. and let's not forget the stuff about bleach and UV light.
Yes, let’s not forget that he never suggested anyone should be drinking bleach, since that’s the line everyone bought hook, line and sinker, even though his speech was public. I quote:
“I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that (…) So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body”
”Something like that” does not equal “injecting bleach” into a patient, he has never said that or suggested doing so as a method of treatment. He was asking a general question, and he’s not a doctor, so I don’t expect him to use correct terminology. Bronchoalveolar lavage, or bronchoalveolar washing, is an existing medical diagnostic technique which involves filling the lung with a controlled amount of fluid and then collecting it for analysis, it does precisely what the name suggest. It is not “outrageous” to think, off the top of your head, that it might be a potential medicine delivery system. As for UV, we’ve been using UV-A and other bands of ultraviolet in and outside of the body for various purposes for years, it has known antimicrobial purposes. UV-A blood irradiation isn’t practiced anymore and fell out of favour in the 1950’s due to the advent of advanced antibiotics and vaccines, but it used to be performed specifically for the purposes of dealing with pathogens and giving the immune system a boost. Now it has the status of mostly alternative medicine, but some studies show that it remains effective, particularly against pathogens resistant to penicillin. Another similar procedure, photopheresis, is intended to combat T-cell lymphoma and is FDA-approved for that purpose. I don’t expect Trump to know any of that because he’s not a doctor, he operates on “this works outside of the body, can we do something *similar* inside the body”, which is a perfectly reasonable train of thought. “Similar” does not mean “the same”, unless you intend to smear someone, in which case we should all collectively pretend that it does.
 
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Yes, let’s not forget that he never suggested anyone should be drinking bleach, since that’s the line everyone bought hook, line and sinker, even though his speech was public. I quote:

”Something like that” does not equal “injecting bleach” into a patient, he has never said that or suggested doing so as a method of treatment. He was asking a general question, and he’s not a doctor, so I don’t expect him to use correct terminology. Bronchoalveolar lavage, or bronchoalveolar washing, is an existing medical diagnostic technique which involves filling the lung with a controlled amount of fluid and then collecting it for analysis, it does precisely what the name suggest. It is not “outrageous” to think, off the top of your head, that it might be a potential medicine delivery system. As for UV, we’ve been using UV-A and other bands of ultraviolet in and outside of the body for various purposes for years, it has known antimicrobial purposes. UV-A blood irradiation isn’t practiced anymore and fell out of favour in the 1950’s due to the advent of advanced antibiotics and vaccines, but it used to be performed specifically for the purposes of dealing with pathogens and giving the immune system a boost. Now it has the status of alternative medicine, but some studies show that it remains effective, particularly against pathogens resistant to penicillin. I don’t expect Trump to know any of that because he’s not a doctor, he operates on “this works outside of the body, can we do something *similar* inside the body”, which is a perfectly reasonable train of thought. Similar does not equal the same, unless you intend to smear someone, in which case we should all collectively pretend that it does.

I stil; say :shit: on tRuMp! :angry:
 

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A Vaccination Campaign is not only about the Effectiveness,but also about the ease of Administration and Trust in the Vaccine, in the Manufacturer ....
It was always the Combination of both that made it possible to achieve the Goal.
In the 1960s, when the Fight against Polio came down,the ease of administering the Oral Vaccine developed by Albert Sabin was key to Mass Vaccination,although a safer alternative,the intramuscular vaccine developed by Jonas Salk,was available.....

Anyways,1 Billion Vaccine Doses Pfizer/Moderna for 2022 and the Mandatory Vaccination Law from February 1, 2022 will not make it easier for People waiting for the Inactive Vaccines ...
 

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Yes, let’s not forget that he never suggested anyone should be drinking bleach, since that’s the line everyone bought hook, line and sinker, even though his speech was public. I quote:

”Something like that” does not equal “injecting bleach” into a patient, he has never said that or suggested doing so as a method of treatment. He was asking a general question, and he’s not a doctor, so I don’t expect him to use correct terminology. Bronchoalveolar lavage, or bronchoalveolar washing, is an existing medical diagnostic technique which involves filling the lung with a controlled amount of fluid and then collecting it for analysis, it does precisely what the name suggest. It is not “outrageous” to think, off the top of your head, that it might be a potential medicine delivery system. As for UV, we’ve been using UV-A and other bands of ultraviolet in and outside of the body for various purposes for years, it has known antimicrobial purposes. UV-A blood irradiation isn’t practiced anymore and fell out of favour in the 1950’s due to the advent of advanced antibiotics and vaccines, but it used to be performed specifically for the purposes of dealing with pathogens and giving the immune system a boost. Now it has the status of mostly alternative medicine, but some studies show that it remains effective, particularly against pathogens resistant to penicillin. Another similar procedure, photopheresis, is intended to combat T-cell lymphoma and is FDA-approved for that purpose. I don’t expect Trump to know any of that because he’s not a doctor, he operates on “this works outside of the body, can we do something *similar* inside the body”, which is a perfectly reasonable train of thought. “Similar” does not mean “the same”, unless you intend to smear someone, in which case we should all collectively pretend that it does.
Lol, must be hard for you to breathe so far up his arse? Yeah, I'm sure he meant all that stuff you said but he just lacked the terminology. Anyway, that was an overly defensive response to a fairly non-specific sentence of mine. I meant exactly what you quoted and didn't say anything about drinking bleach, personally I just choose to be less kind about what he might've been thinking. The far more egregious part was appointing that little weasel Fauci.
 

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Lol, must be hard for you to breathe so far up his arse? Yeah, I'm sure he meant all that stuff you said but he just lacked the terminology. Anyway, that was an overly defensive response to a fairly non-specific sentence of mine. I meant exactly what you quoted and didn't say anything about drinking bleach, personally I just choose to be less kind about what he might've been thinking. The far more egregious part was appointing that little weasel Fauci.
I never said that this is “precisely what he meant”. I don’t know what he meant because I’m not in his head. My assumption is that he knows absolutely nothing about medicine because he’s not a doctor and doesn’t seem to have even a passing interest in the subject. My post was more about the outrage following his statement - everybody got their panties in a bunch as if he suggested something completely outrageous when there is medical precedent for similar therapies. As for Doctor Pinokio, it’s not like he didn’t have the credentials considering his career in the NIH and his achievements in the fight against HIV, he’s not unqualified, he just happens to speak out of both sides of his mouth half the time. I’m pretty confident Trump regretted putting the spotlight on him ever since considering his constant criticism of “the good doctor”. Either way, COVID response wasn’t the work of one man anyway, Anthony Fauci is just a celebrity doctor and a spokesperson for the government.
 

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I never said that this is “precisely what he meant”. I don’t know what he meant because I’m not in his head. My assumption is that he knows absolutely nothing about medicine because he’s not a doctor and doesn’t seem to have even a passing interest in the subject. My post was more about the outrage following his statement - everybody got their panties in a bunch as if he suggested something completely outrageous when there is medical precedent for similar therapies.
Him not being a doctor was kind of the point, it probably would've been better for the president to not use words like that in any such context regardless of what he was thinking at the time. His poor choice of wording also resulted in a bit of a fuckup on another occasion, although I would stop short of saying incited. Based on that outcome, it wouldn't be a stretch to assume some people did indeed end up drinking disinfectant.
 
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