Hacking SSBB NOT WORKING WITH WIIKEY NTSC-U PROOF BY ME!

Heran Bago · Jan 31, 2008

well damn

collin · Jan 31, 2008

Seems to me that the problem is that the game, being DVD9, cannot be read because the US firmware isn't patched to support dual layer whereas the JP can. Of course, this wouldn't account for why a wiikey with dvd9 support wouldn't want to boot it. Seems like something that could be still fixed in the drivechip.

An attempt to dump would be appreciated Hellfromabove.

Bob Loblaw · Jan 31, 2008

QUOTE(Tomobobo @ Jan 30 2008 said:
Ok, first of all, did the disk ask for an update before you made this video? There are some rumors going around that the game has to update your system in order to boot the disk for the first time.

Also, have you tried disabling your wiikey? Try disabling your wiikey by holding reset or however you do it, I"m not sure on how to but it's possible without removing the chip.

Also, have you tried making a backup of the disk and trying it with a backup instead of an original? This might be a dual-layer issue with both the Wii system software, and the Wiikey's dual-layer compatibility. I would doubt that the Wiikey team included any kind of Dual-Layer support for original disks, as Nintendo's yet to come out with any originals on dual-layer until now.

Also, try making a backup and using the autoboot tool that was recently released.

I bet it'll be hard to make a backup though, if your Wiikey isn't configured to read dual-layer originals. This is an interesting issue.

LOL if he disabled the wiikey he wouldn't have region free and would eliminate any possibility of booting a NTSC-J game at all.

and just like xianaix said the wiikey doesn't have full region free anyway. And jap games don't usually work on US consoles. So it is probably a region incompatibility.

Also, GOLD does NOT mean DUAL LAYER! Where are you people getting that from?!? haha jeez.

Aoko · Jan 31, 2008

Well, now. Let's not jump on the OP. Everyone wants to play Brawl. But yeah, OP, did you do that?

H8TR · Jan 31, 2008

Like someone said in the comments. Try running the disc in GCOS to really see if the game is dual layered.

Edit: That wouldn't work.

Aoko · Jan 31, 2008

Maybe that's what the Wiikey team will do, then. A way to soft-activate/deactivate the Wiikey. Probably with a button combination via a firmware update or a config disc.

Twiffles · Jan 31, 2008

LOL look how many people shifted from the "it works" to this one. Thank you for getting them off my back, and such. Good job, too.

MarvinMar · Jan 31, 2008

Sounds like this issue to me
http://kotaku.com/349494/ssbb-shipping-with-showstopper-bug

The site mentions that Japanese retailers are getting notices that SSBB is shipping with a minor bug that displays an error message that the game cannot be booted. This bug is triggered by a SSBB software update. This bug doesn't actually affect the game, which can still be played normally if the bug is ignored. ORE-NO-WEB 3rd stated that such a bug might frighten many customers — even if they are given notice regarding it. This bug wasn't mentioned on the 2ch game store clerk's thread, so it could very well be bogus. Stay tuned!
Bug Bros. Brawl [ORE-NO-WEB3rd

Tomobobo · Jan 31, 2008

The disk is dual-layer, I'm convinced. This is why the game hasn't been dumped yet, because none of the chips/dumping software for pc dvd-roms have support for original dual-layers.

You can't boot the game using the Wiikey, so therefore you can't dump the game because in order to read the game you have to not be using the chip, and you have to be using the chip to get into the dumping software.

This also probably requires a system update from Nintendo Japan, which you have to download before playing the game. The update probably includes the dual-layer support.

That's my take on it anyway.

Dumari · Jan 31, 2008

as far as the chip being in stealth doesn't the chip have to be activated to change the region of the drive?

Aoko · Jan 31, 2008

QUOTE said:
LOL look how many people shifted from the "it works" to this one. Thank you for getting them off my back, and such. Good job, too.

With all due respect, I think you're in the wrong place. And even in the wrong forum.

HipN · Jan 31, 2008

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go185 · Jan 31, 2008

QUOTE(Hellfromabove @ Jan 31 2008 said:
Just finished the vid. It shows me holding the disc and comparing it to the bottom of Twilight Princess to show it has a gold tint. Also, it shows me booting Twilight Princess (original), SMG (copy), and finally booting SSBB with a fail "Disc cannot be read." (original). Let me put it on You Tube. Here's the link:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KW1P5hS_t00

Quick question. Did you try using the SMG boot disc thing for the wiikey? (You put in this disc, it will run and ask you to insert SMG, but instead of putting in SMG, put in Brawl and see if it works)

platypusrme427 · Jan 31, 2008

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say "I believe that an original copy of JAP Brawl will not work on NTSC-US consoles". It's kinda obvious that we need some way to alter the image.

Seraph · Jan 31, 2008

QUOTE(Twiffles @ Jan 30 2008 said:
LOL look how many people shifted from the "it works" to this one. Thank you for getting them off my back, and such. Good job, too.

Perhaps it is because this topic actually has proof. And you have to admit, your posts(along with many others) in the other topic didn't contribute much [proof] and were just there to piss off the noobs. Again, we now have to wait for an NTSC-J with Wiikey to get some more answers.

MSW0 · Jan 31, 2008

Lol "Nintendo has won."

Bob Loblaw · Jan 31, 2008

This is getting crazy this may be "nazi-ish" but I think that instead of having 800 topics filled with speculation, all new topics regarding SSBB should be locked until a scene release is out. And discussion be kept in the "official ssbb thread". Moderators charge your lazuhs!

yuyuyup · Jan 31, 2008

yall should just put down the speculation juice and pick up some let's-wait-for-more-info-aide

platypusrme427 · Jan 31, 2008

Nintendo really has surprised us all. I don't think anybody expected the game to flat-out not run on modded wiis with wiikey.

HisshouBuraiKen · Jan 31, 2008

Does this really prove that much? Don't most chips have issues with out-of-region originals anyways? I'd wait to see a backup copy failing before freaking out - an unpatched one.

Also, wouldn't the LG drives used to rip wii discs be able to read the total disc usage/capacity to see if it really IS DL?

It's still early people. Chill out and wait for some more info.

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