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Covid-19 vaccine

Will you get the vaccine?

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    Votes: 500 67.1%
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How much context is needed when a Johnson & Johnson employee says Kids shouldn't get a f*cking vaccine because there are unknown repercussions? Seems clear cut to me.
You mean apart from multiple studies having been performed and found some of those vaccines to already be perfectly save for children, and that he was clearly not finished talking before they cut away? Or that we didn't hear the actual question he was asked which could heavily alter the context of the answer? Yes, there is critical context missing here.
 
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You mean apart from multiple studies having been performed and found some of those vaccines to already be perfectly save for children, and that he was clearly not finished talking before they cut away? Or that we didn't hear the actual question he was asked which could heavily alter the context of the answer? Yes, there is critical context missing here.
As per usual. Out of context quotes and answers just to fit their agenda. I've said it some pages back, but these sorts of folks love to blur out or ignore what doesn't suit them.
 
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The grim truth about vaccine side effects:

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Johnson & Johnson's Business Lead, Brandon Schadt, and Johnson & Johnson's scientist, Justin Durant, stated their thoughts on the vaccine and were filmed with a hidden cam:



What do you think about it?

How much context is needed when a Johnson & Johnson employee says Kids shouldn't get a f*cking vaccine because there are unknown repercussions? Seems clear cut to me.
..you mean Brandon Schadt - who's job is logistics management ( think UPS delivery)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandon-schadt-48577053
and Justin Durant "scientist" lol the funny part is people are saying he's not a medical Scientist but Consumer dept (SHAMPOO) lolol
https://www.jnj.com/healthcare-products/consumer

so you tell me a Delivery manager and Shampoo mixer is your Breaking news?'


Thats like interviewing a supermarket part time overnight stock boy to inquire on Claims of the Company's CEO embezzling money ??
 
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..you mean Brandon Schadt - who's job is logistics management ( think UPS delivery)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandon-schadt-48577053
and Justin Durant "scientist" lol the funny part is people are saying he's not a medical Scientist but Consumer dept (SHAMPOO) lolol
https://www.jnj.com/healthcare-products/consumer

so you tell me a Delivery manager and Shampoo mixer is your Breaking news?'


Thats like interviewing a supermarket part time overnight stock boy to inquire on Claims of the Company's CEO embezzling money ??
Well it's either that or the mainstream media constantly telling the people flat out lies if that's your logic.
 

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Well it's either that or the mainstream media constantly telling the people flat out lies if that's your logic.
yes... its either 99% of World Governments, all the (legit) Medical field. all Those People vs Project Veritas and a UPS manger...and a Nurse that had a questionible Work History and who also just happen to get 200k right after appearing on video (but ...TRUST ME its not a Bribe??)
 
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I admit it, I'm only just lying to have you unbelievers killed and absorbed into our great hive mind. Speaking of, I should go get my £1,000,000 check tomorrow, it's time I got paid for that.
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Johnson & Johnson's Business Lead, Brandon Schadt, and Johnson & Johnson's scientist, Justin Durant, stated their thoughts on the vaccine and were filmed with a hidden cam:



What do you think about it?

I think this still doesn’t fit the request of a peer-reviewed paper and is just conspiracy garbage

Well it's either that or the mainstream media constantly telling the people flat out lies if that's your logic.
That’s fine, I don’t care about the mainstream media, I only care about peer-reviewed paper. It’s amazing how we still haven’t seen one backing up any of the anti-vac claims or fears.
 
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I admit it, I'm only just lying to have you unbelievers killed and absorbed into our great hive mind. Speaking of, I should go get my £1,000,000 check tomorrow, it's time I got paid for that.
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shh don't tell them the plan
...the people at Breitbart already found out ..
the only two choices Trump supporters have now is DIE or be CUCKS ... ...TRUE story
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I think this still doesn’t fit the request of a peer-reviewed paper and is just conspiracy garbage
That’s fine, I don’t care about the mainstream media, I only care about peer-reviewed paper. It’s amazing how we still haven’t seen one backing up any of the anti-vac claims or fears.

Not peer reviewed: Pfizer's 6-month follow up to their ongoing phase 3 clinical trial finds higher mortality in the vaccinated group (20 vs 14, page 6 paragraph 3).

Peer reviewed: meta-analysis of 45 peer reviewed IVM studies shows 70% efficacy.
 

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Not peer reviewed: Pfizer's 6-month follow up to their ongoing phase 3 clinical trial finds higher mortality in the vaccinated group (20 vs 14, page 6 paragraph 3).

Peer reviewed: meta-analysis of 45 peer reviewed IVM studies shows 70% efficacy.
I appreciate this post but I am looking for peer-reviewed research that shows vaccines are harmful and or backing up the belief that they aren’t a necessity. The research shown here still shows that they are still more effective than not having been vaccinated and still haven’t shown any reason to be concerned about the possible side-effects. I am currently trying to get those against the vaccine to provide evidence against the reasons
 

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yes... its either 99% of World Governments, all the (legit) Medical field. all Those People vs Project Veritas and a UPS manger...and a Nurse that had a questionible Work History and who also just happen to get 200k right after appearing on video (but ...TRUST ME its not a Bribe??)
So I guess if someone with common sense told you putting a loaded gun to your head and pulling the trigger would kill you but if the media said putting a loaded gun to your head and pulling the trigger would grand you eternal life and riches, you'd still believe the media and do it?
 

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I appreciate this post but I am looking for peer-reviewed research that shows vaccines are harmful and or backing up the belief that they aren’t a necessity. The research shown here still shows that they are still more effective than not having been vaccinated and still haven’t shown any reason to be concerned about the possible side-effects. I am currently trying to get those against the vaccine to provide evidence against the reasons

Supposedly this is peer reviewed for appearing in "Trends in Internal Medicine", which claims to be "an international, open-access peer-reviewed, journal".

Technically, Pfizer's phase 3 clinical trial hasn't been fully peer-reviewed yet as it's still ongoing -- completion date: May 2, 2023.

It seems Pfizer have completed the primary efficacy endpoint but not the safety endpoint:
https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-conclude-phase-3-study-covid-19-vaccine said:
Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE today announced that, after conducting the final efficacy analysis in their ongoing Phase 3 study, their mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccine candidate, BNT162b2, met all of the study’s primary efficacy endpoints...The trial will continue to collect efficacy and safety data in participants for an additional two years.

I don't understand why FDA didn't leave it under EUA until phase 3 is complete.

Pfizer has shown their product reduces Covid hospitalisations (but not necessarily all-cause hospitalisations). This is counterintuitive because if it reduces hospitalisation, and hospitalisation correlates to mortality, then shouldn't it reduce mortality as well?

Apparently Pfizer are working on an antiviral drug which may use similar mechanism to IVM.
 
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So I guess if someone with common sense told you putting a loaded gun to your head and pulling the trigger would kill you but if the media said putting a loaded gun to your head and pulling the trigger would grand you eternal life and riches, you'd still believe the media and do it?
And I guess if the Dr and scientist tell you to take a life saving vaccine to save humanity.. you would point a gun to you head instead… wait… it’s not a hypothetical it’s real life
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Supposedly this is peer reviewed for appearing in "Trends in Internal Medicine", which claims to be "an international, open-access peer-reviewed, journal".

Technically, Pfizer's phase 3 clinical trial hasn't been fully peer-reviewed yet as it's still ongoing -- completion date: May 2, 2023.

It seems Pfizer have completed the primary efficacy endpoint but not the safety endpoint:


I don't understand why FDA didn't leave it under EUA until phase 3 is complete.

Pfizer has shown their product reduces Covid hospitalisations (but not necessarily all-cause hospitalisations). This is counterintuitive because if it reduces hospitalisation, and hospitalisation correlates to mortality, then shouldn't it reduce mortality as well?

Apparently Pfizer are working on an antiviral drug which may use similar mechanism to IVM.
Considering the site it’s tethered to is literally a conspiracy site and J. Bart Classen is known for publishing easily debunked crap, I wouldn’t consider anything on that site be considered a resource. It’s worth noting that don’t think that paper was properly peer-reviewed. As for the rest, imma be honest and say I need to read more into that all at a later time cause I am bit busy. It looks interesting though and an interesting note, my wife is part of one of the research studies, so that’s really neat.
 

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And you didn't answer my question.
You mean I didn’t answer your complete asinine hypothesis? Sorry I usually don’t play Paper fortune teller, or F@$k marry kill, I’m not in middle school. Your demented paranoia of 99% of the medical field trying to kill you with a vaccine.. that 2billion have already taken.. is a testament to the grand delusion installed in the right by the old world powers Desperately clinging onto power any way they can (fear) .. fear of Communism, the replacement theory and fear bedrocks of cultural beliefs would be dismantled… you sir don’t realize you’re the villain that tries to stop change and demand we keep the old ways… in the Cinema of life..
 
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So I guess if someone with common sense told you putting a loaded gun to your head and pulling the trigger would kill you but if the media said putting a loaded gun to your head and pulling the trigger would grand you eternal life and riches, you'd still believe the media and do it?
You're the only person who believes this to be a serious question. You're also the only person to believe any of those people you link either have common sense or qualifications to have a deeper understanding of the topic they're talking about. The problem is that it's easy to demonstrate their understanding of the topic is outright wrong.

The comparison is not with the media telling anyone to kill themselves and some random underdog messiah telling anyone to not kill themselves, the reality is the media is telling everyone to take a vaccine for protection that has massive amounts of evidence to be safe and a bunch of people screaming that the media is trying to kill them without a single shred of credible evidence between them. And you believe them. You eat that shit right up like it's a five course gourmet meal.

You believe random employees of a company that have nothing to do with the actual vaccine or science side over people like Fauci who have a 40y history of working intimately with health care issues and patients, particularly Fauci who was on the Frontline of the ebola outbreak and treated people himself instead of just sitting back and only letting his underlings handle it. Dude has gotten his hands dirty and put himself into harms way to help when he could have just not. But for some reason he has less credibility on matters of medicine in your eyes than a logistics manager for a company whose only involvement in healthcare was moving crates of medicine.

The media you consume is telling you that the other side is asking everyone else to put a gun to their heads, and only your media is telling you that you are smart enough to not listen to the other side.
 
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Not peer reviewed: Pfizer's 6-month follow up to their ongoing phase 3 clinical trial finds higher mortality in the vaccinated group (20 vs 14, page 6 paragraph 3).

Peer reviewed: meta-analysis of 45 peer reviewed IVM studies shows 70% efficacy.
ACTUALLY, while the meta analysis of your link is interesting, it also takes some questionable liberties with its selections of data and is NOT a reputable source, as it stems from the FLCCC (Front Line Covid Critical Care) Alliance. For those not in the know, the FLCCC Alliance is headed by two physicians who've been dunked on pretty hard in their careers, and have chased alternative remedies for the right. They're responsible for the "Wonder Drug" comment regarding Ivermectin, and despite being reprimanded for their behaviors even outside of the pandemic for things like peddling addictive drugs to non-patients for cash, they continue to seek prosperity via ignorance and desperation.
 
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According to a new Trafalgar Group poll, the vast, bipartisan majority of American voters oppose vaccine mandates for American workers.

The poll, conducted in partnership with the Convention of States Action from September 17 to 19, included responses from 1097 likely voters.

https://humanevents.com/2021/09/29/...e-their-jobs-if-they-object-to-covid-vaccine/

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When I decide to stop being lazy I can find where Biden, Harris, Pelosi and Fauci all said the Government should not be mandating vaccines that it's not their role, yet here we are. Biden and Harris spoke against the vaccine in general when Trump was President.
 
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