Anti-RetroArch sentiment seems to be growing
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Great point, I miss dedicated emulators, especially on the likes of the Wii/Wii U. VBAGX, FCEUGX,SNESN9XGX, and GenPlusGX are fantastic emulators that are so much more user friendly while offering more options for the system you're emulating and having top-notch UIs. Would love for some Retroarch cores to see as nice emulators for such systems. Like the standalone Wii Mame emulator is awful, but if someone remade it in one of the GX styles, I'd be all over using that instead of Retroarch for my arcade games.
Yeah that's the thing too.
Usually doing standalone emulators would require porting each emulator, one by one, particularly for a specific new device.
The thing with RetroArch is usually that, if you manage to port it to a new device, you already have access, to a minimum to 10 or so cores/emulators right from the get go, and that saves up a LOT of time and effort than if you were porting each emu one by one.
That's a huge thing that not many people see the perks of, and it's a huge deal when a new device comes out.
Oh I totally get why and how the likes of Retroarch exists. It's a pretty brilliant all-in-one solution. But by that very nature you lose the attention to detail per emulator that dedicated emulators are so well known for. Frankly, I'm impressed that Retroarch is as polished as it is. But I don't think there will ever come a time where I find it to be better per individual core than some of the dedicated emulators that exist outside of it.
Yeah I totally understand you.
I also used to prefer standalone emulators instead of RA way back when it was hitting the 1.0 version or near to it on Wii.
With due time I did manage to get the hang of using it, and now I'm really comfortable with it and can customize it at all.
One could probably setup RetroArch in a way that makes it similar to standalone emulators on specific devices, it would just be a matter of making the proper code on RA to make it possible, but should be fairly feasible.
My take of this is that the frontend exists, it is there for download for free. If one or more creators hurt you or others with their transphobia or whatever, don't feel bad about using the damn thing. Just don't donate (obviously).
as @subcon959 said, I wish I did not knew about that shit, but if the thing works for you, you are not helping anybody else but you by using it.
as @subcon959 said, I wish I did not knew about that shit, but if the thing works for you, you are not helping anybody else but you by using it.
This should be VERY CLEAR. Reading the comments, seems that many people are not aware of that.
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No on PC they're not. People still bitch about it because they feel entitled.
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I don't know for sure, but I think they have a LLC company or something.
I am part of the mame team, there are people working on it all the time and we don't make any money out of it. We all lose money on it, because it's a hobby.
When they came along and broke our license they went completely berzerk when we bought it up. Like properly psycho. They then act the victim, it happens time and time again. I don't know if it is that they have a persecution complex and are incapable of understanding simple licensing terms, but the leaks of their chats suggest they are just manipulative assholes.
During one argument here, someone from RA sent me private logs that contradicted everything he was arguing in public & they were aware that telling the truth would hurt their argument.
So I don't think they deserve a single cent, if that means they stop doing it then it's fine by me (although I think their ego will keep them doing it regardless). Someone else will then pick it up and work with people for free. At the moment there is no point.
We tried being nice, it didn't get us anywhere.
By all means steal all their stuff for free, but giving them money is offensive to all the people they stole from.
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I don't like Retroarch, I find it a clunky pain in the ass to use and never seen anything interesting from the sorting or presentation for it to be worth the trouble.
But wow what a bunch of pearl clutching cry babies a lot of you are. Congratulations on managing to top circa 1990s religious right outrage culture as the most insufferable obnoxious group of people to ever step upon a soap box.
This thread > Tinky Winkys purse.
But wow what a bunch of pearl clutching cry babies a lot of you are. Congratulations on managing to top circa 1990s religious right outrage culture as the most insufferable obnoxious group of people to ever step upon a soap box.
This thread > Tinky Winkys purse.
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I've always liked the idea of Retroarch but the interface has always been kind of a turn-off for me. I find the XMB-styled menu pretty damn clunky and inconvenient outside of situations where everything is already set up and ready to play. For that reason, i lean more towards standalone emulators or other multi-emulator projects with nicer interfaces such as Bizhawk.
I used Retroarch a bit a few years ago, and...eh, nah. Gimme VBA-M and DeSmuME and SNES9x any day; their GUIs are far more straightforward and cleaner.
I've only ever used Ares for WonderSwan, are the other systems well-emulated too?
Which is obvious, as they are tailor made for the system.
GBA Link Emulation on retroarch ? Ha!
Basic DS wirelss communication features ? Nope.
Any GC-GBA Connection ? ...
Retroarch is both the most (somewhat) ambitious, yet still lazy and kinda worthless attempt to emulation I've ever seen.
Let's just plug these cores other devs implemented in and call it a day.
(IIRC, they only do x64.. so forget about PCSX2 on many machines with retroargh)
It's like a FastFood Menu that tries to be a Six course meal...
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To be fair, I think the cool reaction here is more about the bullying than open source issues. Then again, I think RA has built a big enough fan base over the years that most users wouldn't really care about that either.
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i'd love if i didnt have to remove like 200 unneeded cores from every update all the time.
do we really need like 10 snes cores? really?
do we really need like 10 snes cores? really?
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