Blizzard's president is stepping down and leaving the company amidst discrimination lawsuit

Earth_Seeker_Fan · Aug 4, 2021

Wow I can't believe there were consequences. (but I guess someone had to take the fall)

ov3rkill · Aug 4, 2021

The good old golden parachute exit resulting in the company saving face. Not even a damn was given to the victims and just let it play out in court. Hopefully, the judgment in this court will be in favor to the victims. I'm not even sure if this company is salvageable or how much PR they're going to spend to appear good in public.

spiritunes · Aug 4, 2021

tpax said:
In modern times, we don't need evidence anymore. Guilty undtil proven innocent.

When did we ever? It's always been this way. In modern times, we just refuse to admit it.

Earth_Seeker_Fan · Aug 4, 2021

Yes, the parachute exit. I wonder if executives have any private shame.

BitMasterPlus · Aug 4, 2021

Earth_Seeker_Fan said:
Yes, the parachute exit. I wonder if executives have any private shame.

People have any ounce of shame nowadays? Not any more!

HellGhast · Aug 4, 2021

ov3rkill said:
The good old golden parachute exit resulting in the company saving face. Not even a damn was given to the victims and just let it play out in court. Hopefully, the judgment in this court will be in favor to the victims. I'm not even sure if this company is salvageable or how much PR they're going to spend to appear good in public.

That golden parachute comes with a cool 50 million dollar send-off bonus in cold hard cash plus another 50 mil in Stock options.

As for the PR campaign they’ll spend 20 mil.

What about the victims you ask? Victims will get a 5,000 dollar settlement plus a "Sayonara $uckers!"

HellGhast · Aug 4, 2021

BitMasterPlus said:
People have any ounce of shame nowadays? Not any more!

Nowadays? No! This system has always been there, think of the Dark Ages where royalty, nobility and lords are living it up in a Castle or Palace surrounded by opulence wealth and luxury, bedecked in jewelry and wearing the finest silks and velvet, throwing balls and extravagant feasts, eating off jewel encrusted cutlery, all the while the oppressed peasants pay the price through blood sweat and tears, barely have food to eat and survive through winter eating tree bark coz their entire harvest was taken as tax.

Shame a similar system still exists today.
Shame that we still have Kings, Queens and Emperors around.
Shame that so few have so much wealth while so many have nothing.
Shame that politicians and leaders who are supposed to be servants of the people are instead our oppressors.
Shame that politicians and leaders are greedy, selfish, self-serving, power hungry jerk$ who are owned by and serve the mega rich

Foxi4 · Aug 4, 2021

Seliph said:
There are mountains of evidence if you just... look? Blizzard devs literally had a hotel suite for an event one year that they called the "Cosby room" and all sorts of heinous shit happened in there. Pretty damning and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Anyways, good riddance.

Activision rented the "Cosby Suite" for BlizzCon 2013. At that point very few people knew about the allegations against Cosby, previous accusations (between the 1960 and 2015) fell on deaf ears. He was "America's Uncle" until 2015 when the Class II felony sexual assault charges were filed against him and the matter became more widely publicised.

American comedian Bill Cosby has been the subject of publicized sexual assault allegations and was convicted of aggravated indecent assault in 2018 before the conviction was vacated by the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania on June 30, 2021. He has been accused by approximately 60 women of rape, drug-facilitated sexual assault, sexual battery, child sexual abuse, and sexual misconduct. The earliest incidents allegedly took place in the mid-1960s. Assault allegations against Cosby became more public after a stand-up routine by comedian Hannibal Buress in October 2014, alluding to Cosby's covert sexual misbehavior; thereafter, many additional claims were made.

In December 2015, three Class II felony charges of aggravated indecent assault were filed against Cosby in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, based on allegations by Constand concerning incidents in January 2004. Cosby's first trial in June 2017 ended in a mistrial. Cosby was found guilty of three counts of aggravated indecent assault at retrial on April 26, 2018 and on September 25, 2018, he was sentenced to three to ten years in state prison and fined $25,000 plus the cost of the prosecution, $43,611. Cosby appealed on June 25, 2019 and the verdict was subsequently upheld and granted an appeal by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.

On June 30, 2021, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court found that an agreement with a previous prosecutor, Bruce Castor, prevented Cosby from being charged in the case, and overruled the conviction. The Supreme Court's decision prevents him from being tried on the same charges a third time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Cosby_sexual_assault_cases

It is *highly* unlikely that the name had anything to do with sexual assault.

This is the "seedy sex den" everyone is talking about:

Okay. This is obviously a joke. It's amazing to me that people, in earnest, think that a publicly traded company would seriously operate a suite that they openly call a "rape room". Uhm, no, perhaps it was called that because it had a funny picture on the wall.

Blaze163 · Aug 4, 2021

tpax said:
In modern times, we don't need evidence anymore. Guilty undtil proven innocent.

To be fair, some pretty solid evidence has come forward already. Chat logs about this Cosby Suite, for example. Or the fact that the bathrooms had spy cams fitted to perv on the girls. As far as I'm aware these things have been basically proven. It's not just wild accusations for attention this time, there's actually something there. Now I'm no lawyer and obviously the case hasn't been decided yet, so I'll reserve final judgment for later. But it sure seems to me that a lot of the accusations can be backed up. I totally agree that we need evidence before making a call. I made the mistake of just blindly believing women before, look where that got me. But in this case, it seems to be leaning pretty heavily towards the truth.

MetoMeto · Aug 4, 2021

WiiMiiSwitch said:
Some People: Take responsibitly

Most People:I'm outta here!

well its the way of less resistance.everything in nature tends toward less resistance... so....yeah

Deleted member 546149 · Aug 4, 2021

MetoMeto said:
well its the way of less resistance.everything in nature tends toward less resistance... so....yeah

I guess but I mean
The CEO is just running way from his problems and it seemed to work

Xzi · Aug 4, 2021

Foxi4 said:
It's amazing to me that people, in earnest, think that a publicly traded company would seriously operate a suite that they openly call a "rape room".

The company, probably not. Some individuals at the top of the company who have gotten away with much worse in the past? Yeah, I can definitely see them thinking they would've been able to keep it under wraps.

Foxi4 · Aug 5, 2021

Xzi said:
The company, probably not. Some individuals at the top of the company who have gotten away with much worse in the past? Yeah, I can definitely see them thinking they would've been able to keep it under wraps.

Keep it under wraps? They posted photos with the Cosby picture on Twitter. As in, publicly. It wasn't a secret at all.

Xzi · Aug 5, 2021

Foxi4 said:
Keep it under wraps? They posted photos with the Cosby picture on Twitter. As in, publicly. It wasn't a secret at all.

Sure, but the photo itself proves/disproves nothing, and could've been taken well before or well after the suite was used for "other" purposes.

Foxi4 · Aug 5, 2021

Xzi said:
Sure, but the photo itself proves/disproves nothing, and could've been taken well before or well after the suite was used for "other" purposes.

Of which you have zero evidence. Okay.

Xzi · Aug 5, 2021

Foxi4 said:
Of which you have zero evidence. Okay.

The unprompted resignation of the company's president is a pretty clear indicator that some of the accusations are true. Beyond that, neither side of this debate has enough hard evidence to declare guilt or innocence definitively. Let the chips fall where they may.

Foxi4 · Aug 5, 2021

Xzi said:
The unprompted resignation of the company's president is a pretty clear indicator that some of the accusations are true. Beyond that, neither side of this debate has enough hard evidence to declare guilt or innocence definitively. Let the chips fall where they may.

No, it's not.

I like how we've shifted from the presumption of innocence to having to prove a negative - that someone *didn't* do something, of which there is *never* any evidence by definition. To me it looks like a networking room - somewhere you go to unwind after a convention and enjoy a stiff drink before getting back to reality. The guy resigned because there's a scandal in a publicly traded company that he used to run and it is expected of him to do so.

Xzi · Aug 5, 2021

Foxi4 said:
The guy resigned because there's a scandal in a publicly traded company that he used to run and it is expected of him to do so.

There have been several other developers with similar scandals, and none of their presidents resigned IIRC. Were it true that it's "expected," Activision's president Rob Kostich would have also resigned. It's preemptively abandoning ship, which means he knows there's a whole lot of bad leaks about to be discovered.

Foxi4 · Aug 5, 2021

Xzi said:
There have been several other developers with similar scandals, and none of their presidents resigned IIRC. Were it true that it's "expected," Activision's president Rob Kostich would have also resigned. It's preemptively abandoning ship, which means he knows there's a whole lot of bad leaks about to be discovered.

Or, alternatively, he's leaving the company under pressure from the board and is otherwise in no way implicated in anything. I base my judgements on the preponderance of evidence if "there's gonna be leaks" then let's see'em, otherwise it's all talk. Irrespective of why he resigned, the "Cosby room" bears no resemblance to a "sex dungeon" and the suggestion that it does based on the fact that it's named after a comedian wearing a funny sweater that, at the time, was not widely known as a sexual predator is ridiculous. I can understand some degree of mental gymnastics, but when we're resorting to time travel, there's definitely an issue.

Xzi · Aug 5, 2021

Foxi4 said:
Or, alternatively, he's leaving the company under pressure from the board and is otherwise in no way implicated in anything. I base my judgements on the preponderance of evidence if "there's gonna be leaks" then let's see'em, otherwise it's all talk.

I'm not even suggesting that he was primarily responsible in any of the accusations that may or may not turn out to be true, only that he was aware of some of it happening under his roof.

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