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California Court SHUTS DOWN Transgender Pronoun Law
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I see the childish intolerant control freaks are out in full force trying to shut down any opinions that don't align with their hive mind. I'm glad the mods on this site aren't so easily controlled by people who try to manipulate others into submission with regards to having different opinions on the entire issue at hand. It's like a breathe of fresh air to be able to openly discuss our differences without the fear of being censored and/or banned. So go on, keep trying to manipulate and control others by using a word that you're not even defining or using correctly. Shove your usage of the word "transphobia" up your ass.
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Anti-LGBT+ shouldn’t be respected as it’s actually a harmful belief that has cost the lives of innocent people. LGBT+ people living their life and not harming others desire respect, full stop. Disrespecting them for trying to do so is a violation of their freedom and shouldn’t be respected.
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I said transgenderism as an artform can be appreciated. Transgenderism as a joke can also be appreciated. I don't appreciate dishonesty. Bossy people saying "think of me as a woman", when they are not, get the scorn that they are clearly expecting. Also, check my sig. "People" around here think artificial insemination transcends sexual reproduction. If you want to cater to and reinforce such thinking, well you can do you. I'm not aiming for "credibility". I'm aiming for conversation. As far as you know, I have 5 penises and 2 vaginas and am rightfully ashamed of people playing dressup and insisting that the rest of society entertain them.
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Oh, wow, could you be any more hateful? That does settle it, for the second time. Thanks for playing.
Your input is noted and still wrong and garbage. Trans people are real and they are the gender they say they are, either respect them or be called an asshole. Transphobia is a harmful practice that has cost the lives of innocent people and is far more harmful when people pretend it should be respected. It shouldn't be respected, period. I don't care what you have in your pants, respect for individuals is not determined by the junk in their pants.
When it comes to transsexuals I simply believe they are mentally ill and need help. Even the DSM-V still classifies them as ill or otherwise they couldn't receive surgery, hormone therapy and other services. I also believe that there are only two sexes.
As for treatment I believe that catering to their delusional state of mind and then trying to control the rest of us and how we think or treat mentally ill people is wrong. We should be helping them realize that there's only two sexes and work on helping them accept who they were born as regardless of how much they want to reject science and reality.
As for pronoun usage I don't believe in using a plural word to describe a single person nor am I going to differ from the norm I grew up with just because some mentally ill people are having a hard time dealing with reality. I'll call you him/his/her/she. Trying to pressure me into speaking a certain way will only be met with opposition.
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Harvard lecturer takes heat for defending existence of biological sex on 'Fox & Friends'
Her statement that there are two genders was labeled 'dangerous'
https://www.foxnews.com/us/harvard-...gue-for-defending-existence-of-biological-sex
As for treatment I believe that catering to their delusional state of mind and then trying to control the rest of us and how we think or treat mentally ill people is wrong. We should be helping them realize that there's only two sexes and work on helping them accept who they were born as regardless of how much they want to reject science and reality.
As for pronoun usage I don't believe in using a plural word to describe a single person nor am I going to differ from the norm I grew up with just because some mentally ill people are having a hard time dealing with reality. I'll call you him/his/her/she. Trying to pressure me into speaking a certain way will only be met with opposition.
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Harvard lecturer takes heat for defending existence of biological sex on 'Fox & Friends'
Her statement that there are two genders was labeled 'dangerous'
https://www.foxnews.com/us/harvard-...gue-for-defending-existence-of-biological-sex
I believe you are an asshole using outdated garbage to justify being an asshole. You don't deserve respect nor do your outdated and harmful beliefs.
Being transgender is not a mental illness, disorder, etc.
It's worse than that. He cited the DSM-V, which famously states that being transgender isn't a mental illness. In other words, he isn't being outdated; he's making things up.
Big shock, transphobes making shit up, never heard that before.
If transsexuals weren't diagnosed with an illness they couldn't get services such as hormone therapy or have a sex change operation. For the insurance company to pay for those services one must first be diagnosed with a problem. Even though parts of the DSM-V were changed to reclassify things, such as the inclusion of Gender dysphoria one must still be diagnosed with a disorder to receive treatment.
Although, even if transsexuals didn't need a diagnoses to receive services that are paid on by insurance companies I still personally would believe that there's only two sexes and there's no way to change your sex therefor people thinking they are the opposite sex are mentally ill. You see, it wouldn't matter what the DSM-# says ... there's what I believe and that's not going to change.
Although, even if transsexuals didn't need a diagnoses to receive services that are paid on by insurance companies I still personally would believe that there's only two sexes and there's no way to change your sex therefor people thinking they are the opposite sex are mentally ill. You see, it wouldn't matter what the DSM-# says ... there's what I believe and that's not going to change.
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So it only mattered what it said when you though you could use it for justifying your bullshit but when it doesn’t agree with you, suddenly it doesn’t matter. Wow, you are a real piece of shit. As per the normal, the rest of your post is just dated garbage and doesn’t deserve a response
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Hey gang remember when this website was about hacking your 3DS and wasn't inundated with threads made by the same loud ass 3-4 transphobic assholes who are still somehow allowed a platform despite repeatedly and publically spreading their awful awful bigoted opinion?
I sure don't
It's disappointing. @JonhathonBaxster specifically is one of these people. Literally nothing but negativity from this dude. He's repeatedly had his vile comments removed by mods but nothing ever actually comes from it. When will something be done?
Disappointing. This thread has absolutely nothing of value. These people who make these threads contribute nothing of value, they just want to spread their rhetoric and hope that one or two people who don't know any better will actually defend them. They don't contribute to real discussions, not discussions about gaming, not discussions about hacking, not even discussions about politics. Why the hell are these same threads from the same users that always have the same awful outcomes allowed? Is this good? Is this worth it? Does this create any sort of meaningful or constructive discourse? No. This sucks. These people are reprehensible.
For anyone who regularly deals with these assholes, here's a great video series.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJA_jUddXvY7v0VkYRbANnTnzkA_HMFtQ
I sure don't
It's disappointing. @JonhathonBaxster specifically is one of these people. Literally nothing but negativity from this dude. He's repeatedly had his vile comments removed by mods but nothing ever actually comes from it. When will something be done?
Disappointing. This thread has absolutely nothing of value. These people who make these threads contribute nothing of value, they just want to spread their rhetoric and hope that one or two people who don't know any better will actually defend them. They don't contribute to real discussions, not discussions about gaming, not discussions about hacking, not even discussions about politics. Why the hell are these same threads from the same users that always have the same awful outcomes allowed? Is this good? Is this worth it? Does this create any sort of meaningful or constructive discourse? No. This sucks. These people are reprehensible.
For anyone who regularly deals with these assholes, here's a great video series.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJA_jUddXvY7v0VkYRbANnTnzkA_HMFtQ
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- Being transgender is not a mental illness, by definition.
- Gender dysphoria, the distress that can result (for example) from being transgender and having to interact with transphobic people like you, also isn't a mental disorder but can be more than enough for medical interventions to be advised.
- Not everyone who is transgender suffers from gender dysphoria.
- It's possible to get medical services related to being transgender without suffering from gender dysphoria.
- The existence of intersex individuals demonstrates there are more than just the prototypical male and female sex options.
- Gender and sex are two different things.
- Many, if not most or all, aspects of gender identity, such as attire and hairstyle, are wholly unrelated to biological sex.
- Regardless of your beliefs about sex and gender, I'm not sure how another person's gender expressions concern you or how another person's gender expressions negatively affect anybody.
1. Only because of progressive Newspeak and using a overly broad brush to diminish who/what is being discussed.
2. Has nothing to distress from abuse.
2. Has nothing to distress from abuse.
Dysphoria is a distinct mental disorder in which a person is preoccupied with an imagined physical defect or a minor defect that others often cannot see.
3. True.
4. It's possible to be a body builder with a dysphoric condition and get Rx treatments and completely worthy of being viewed as ethically questionable.
Do we all need to play along that the kid is swole or do we need to be sued for discrimination?
5. Genetic abnormalities happen, Big difference between someone who was born without an arm and someone with dysphoria cutting it off. I sincerely doubt everyone who has a chromosomal disorder, birth defect, Hermaphroditism etc. wants to be placed under the transgender umbrella.
People are born with missing and extra limbs, it is still fair to presume humans are born with two of each.
Someone born with a medical abnormality is not the same condition as someone medically normal and mentally dissatisfied.
It is entirely disingenuous using peoples measurable medical issue to justify a behavior of someone who does not and is physically atypical.
6. Gender and Sex have been synonymous in English for hundreds of years and many choose not adopt a redefinition.
7. Raise multiple daughters and sons and come back and claim that.
8. It doesn't until you expect others to play along.
Men & women have different physical attributes and this is why we segregate athletics.
There is substantive monetary and career advancement issues at play here, Want to make all divisions all inclusive? Go ahead.
The vast majority of the population expects biologically segregated private spaces, such as gyms, saunas, bathrooms etc. and it has nothing to do with "MEHFEELZ".
If a woman doesn't want your phallus flopping around in front of their daughter there is nothing unreasonable about that.
3. True.
4. It's possible to be a body builder with a dysphoric condition and get Rx treatments and completely worthy of being viewed as ethically questionable.
Do we all need to play along that the kid is swole or do we need to be sued for discrimination?
5. Genetic abnormalities happen, Big difference between someone who was born without an arm and someone with dysphoria cutting it off. I sincerely doubt everyone who has a chromosomal disorder, birth defect, Hermaphroditism etc. wants to be placed under the transgender umbrella.
People are born with missing and extra limbs, it is still fair to presume humans are born with two of each.
Someone born with a medical abnormality is not the same condition as someone medically normal and mentally dissatisfied.
It is entirely disingenuous using peoples measurable medical issue to justify a behavior of someone who does not and is physically atypical.
6. Gender and Sex have been synonymous in English for hundreds of years and many choose not adopt a redefinition.
7. Raise multiple daughters and sons and come back and claim that.
8. It doesn't until you expect others to play along.
Men & women have different physical attributes and this is why we segregate athletics.
There is substantive monetary and career advancement issues at play here, Want to make all divisions all inclusive? Go ahead.
The vast majority of the population expects biologically segregated private spaces, such as gyms, saunas, bathrooms etc. and it has nothing to do with "MEHFEELZ".
If a woman doesn't want your phallus flopping around in front of their daughter there is nothing unreasonable about that.
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Your normal absolute garbage post, but you didn’t include otherkins, I am shocked. You even included one accurate statement with 3.Your overall opinion is still trash though.1. Only because of progressive Newspeak and using a overly broad brush to diminish who/what is being discussed.
2. Has nothing to distress from abuse.
Dysphoria is a distinct mental disorder in which a person is preoccupied with an imagined physical defect or a minor defect that others often cannot see.
3. True.
4. It's possible to be a body builder with a dysphoric condition and get Rx treatments and completely worthy of being viewed as ethically questionable.
Do we all need to play along that the kid is swole or do we need to be sued for discrimination?
5. Genetic abnormalities happen, Big difference between someone who was born without an arm and someone with dysphoria cutting it off. I sincerely doubt everyone who has a chromosomal disorder, birth defect, Hermaphroditism etc. wants to be placed under the transgender umbrella.
People are born with missing and extra limbs, it is still fair to presume humans are born with two of each.
Someone born with a medical abnormality is not the same condition as someone medically normal and mentally dissatisfied.
It is entirely disingenuous using peoples measurable medical issue to justify a behavior of someone who does not and is physically atypical.
6. Gender and Sex have been synonymous in English for hundreds of years and many choose not adopt a redefinition.
7. Raise multiple daughters and sons and come back and claim that.
8. It doesn't until you expect others to play along.
Men & women have different physical attributes and this is why we segregate athletics.
There is substantive monetary and career advancement issues at play here, Want to make all divisions all inclusive? Go ahead.
The vast majority of the population expects biologically segregated private spaces, such as gyms, saunas, bathrooms etc. and it has nothing to do with "MEHFEELZ".
If a woman doesn't want your phallus flopping around in front of their daughter there is nothing unreasonable about that.
None of the mental health professionals who work with gender dysphoric people will say that transgender is a mental illness. It is not. And it's not because of Newspeak. And it's not an imagined thing either.1. Only because of progressive Newspeak and using a overly broad brush to diminish who/what is being discussed.
2. Has nothing to distress from abuse.
Dysphoria is a distinct mental disorder in which a person is preoccupied with an imagined physical defect or a minor defect that others often cannot see.
3. True.
4. It's possible to be a body builder with a dysphoric condition and get Rx treatments and completely worthy of being viewed as ethically questionable.
Do we all need to play along that the kid is swole or do we need to be sued for discrimination?
5. Genetic abnormalities happen, Big difference between someone who was born without an arm and someone with dysphoria cutting it off. I sincerely doubt everyone who has a chromosomal disorder, birth defect, Hermaphroditism etc. wants to be placed under the transgender umbrella.
People are born with missing and extra limbs, it is still fair to presume humans are born with two of each.
Someone born with a medical abnormality is not the same condition as someone medically normal and mentally dissatisfied.
It is entirely disingenuous using peoples measurable medical issue to justify a behavior of someone who does not and is physically atypical.
6. Gender and Sex have been synonymous in English for hundreds of years and many choose not adopt a redefinition.
7. Raise multiple daughters and sons and come back and claim that.
8. It doesn't until you expect others to play along.
Men & women have different physical attributes and this is why we segregate athletics.
There is substantive monetary and career advancement issues at play here, Want to make all divisions all inclusive? Go ahead.
The vast majority of the population expects biologically segregated private spaces, such as gyms, saunas, bathrooms etc. and it has nothing to do with "MEHFEELZ".
If a woman doesn't want your phallus flopping around in front of their daughter there is nothing unreasonable about that.
Where you are correct is that sex is not a spectrum. We are a dimorphic species. Sex is binary. Male and Female are the only two categories. There is only two types of gametes. Small ones produced by men called sperm. And large ones produced by females called eggs. There is no intermediate types of gametes between a sperm and a egg. So this means sex is binary and not a spectrum.
Most intersex which is atypical are still either the binary male or female. And a very small percentage of intersex that has a blend of male and female sexual features still does not invalidate that sex is still a binary.
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My definition for Dysphoria came from a Webmd, we disputing them as right wing crack pots this week? As far I know it's a perfectly reasonable source for a quick description of a condition.
It's not my fault it's a medical condition when they want hormone treatments, surgery or special accommodations and a perfectly normal state of birth when they want to be offended.
We don't remove body parts and provide long term pharmaceutical treatments to physically healthy typical people and when we do it's cosmetic, not a health issue.
Here is a quick write up on the legal and ethical status of cosmetic surgery on minors, but the common consensus is no.
https://www.law.uh.edu/healthlaw/perspectives/Bioethics/981230Cosmetic.htm
It is ridiculous to conflate a person who has genetic abnormalities with a perfectly typical healthy person without those conditions based on their feelings, a person without legs or paralyzed is not the same as someone who decides they don't want to walk.
So we have a typical human without medical issues and a penis, it doesn't take a medical professional to know what the word for that is.
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I like how you selectively found the specific word and definition that you agree with and decided that’s good enough. Shows how egotistical a person you are when you find every small means of pretending to put yourself above others. The rest are not requirements to be trans. Trans people don’t need hormones if they don’t want them, don’t need surgeries either. Even if they want them or feel the need for them, so what? Why does that matter to you? Why does that warrant disrespect of them?
No one was talking about minors during this part of the conversation. You are just injecting that as another means of attempting to control the conversation. You seem to enjoy doing that when the conversation is out of your control. It’s obvious and sad that you feel the need to try and control the conversation.
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