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California Court SHUTS DOWN Transgender Pronoun Law

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I don’t “pretend” to be LGBT, that’s part of who I am. Enjoying myself as a demon online is just for fun. Nonetheless, at least I have a basic understanding of artificial insemination and don’t pretend heterosexuality is a requirement for insemination. The idea that my identity, online or offline, as means of invaliding my understanding of medical science is pretty shallow if you. I don’t discredit you for being a moogle.
This convo is enlightening to say the least. I'm also glad you edited your last portion about what you said about him so it stays clean and to the science of the matter instead of throwing insults/pissing contest.

What happens when it's 2 LGBT people and theyre both male but trans to female? What are they called then? 2 lesbians? Please excuse my ignorance to the whole LGBT thing.
 

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You seem to think that because it happens in a lab that it is no longer sexual reproduction. Which is "DUM", as your glorious banner reinforces.
No one has said it isn't sexual reproduction, the only argument at hand here is that heterosexuality is necessary or not in humans for future generations to continue on. Yes, you need sexual reproduction (in some form) to happen for there to be new life. But that doesn't mean that anybody involved has to be a heterosexual.

Look, I'm not sure if you think it goes against God or something for people to procreate without there being a sexual attraction for the opposite sex involved, and hey maybe it is, maybe such practices are that of the devil; so what, that doesn't really matter to the point at hand. But you can't deny that we (the human species) are both capable and do indeed create new babies now without the sexual preference of the mother and/or father being a factor. I trust you can understand and acknowledge that (lol, I'm sure you wont acknowledge it, as that would be admitting some small amount of defeat). If you can, then I guess I don't even care if you really understand what the actual concept of heterosexuality actually means.
 
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I would argue they are both able to do so because there is part of them that is heterosexual, too
There is no more heterosexuality in a person who is a 6 on the Kinsey Scale than there is homosexuality in a person who is a 0 on the Kinsey Scale.

Maybe it could be your calling to start a LGBT nursing home.
I don't like having to acknowledge my own mortality too often.

You act like you know, but you don't know.
We know a person generally isn't in control of their own genetics, and aside from a few specific exceptions, one's DNA mostly doesn't change throughout one's lifetime. In the absence of widespread DNA-altering technology that only exists right now in science fiction, one's genetics are an immutable characteristic in the same way race is, for example. We have a pretty good understanding of how DNA works, how traits are inherited, etc.
 

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There is no more heterosexuality in a person who is a 6 on the Kinsey Scale than there is homosexuality in a person who is a 0 on the Kinsey Scale.

I don't disagree with the essence of what you are saying, but you seem to be exercising a faith in the balance of the scale. Care to suggest what metric we can determine it to be the real thing?

I don't like having to acknowledge my own mortality too often.

It's not all about you.

We know a person generally isn't in control of their own genetics, and aside from a few specific exceptions, one's DNA mostly doesn't change throughout one's lifetime. In the absence of widespread DNA-altering technology that only exists right now in science fiction, one's genetics are an immutable characteristic. We have a pretty good understanding of how DNA works, how traits are inherited, etc.

Okay. I mostly agree, but I emboldened the irrational conclusion. AFAIK radiation can damage DNA, so I would think that it could be used in a controlled process, theoretically.
 

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why have none of these transphobic idiots been banned is beyond me personally i feel the Political subforum should be dismantled and anyone speaking of politics in any forum should be treated as spam and banned from both forum and discord but that's just my thought
 

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Yes they did.

To the rest of what you said, it's outdated. Read and catch up before posting next time.
Who, who said that creating new life isn't sexual reproduction?

(Also, love how you brush off anything you know you have no counter argument against)
 
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why have none of these transphobic idiots been banned is beyond me personally i feel the Political subforum should be dismantled and anyone speaking of politics in any forum should be treated as spam and banned from both forum and discord but that's just my thought

Who is being transphobic? You should report them!


Who, who said that creating new life isn't sexual reproduction?

(Also, love how you brush off anything you know you have no counter argument against)

I'm brushing you off, because it is obvious that you haven't made an effort to read the last page, in which every question you make already has an answer.
 

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That's an easy thing to say. What seems to not be easy is reading 1 page back.
I'll clarify the location.
I came back after a night of assuming you'd recognize how retarded you've been. You didn't, despite others telling you that you clearly don't have an understanding of basic definitions, so I came back to finish the job. I think it's safe to say that I have at this point though. There is nothing more that needs to be said to you here, you've perfectly illustrated what a fool you are and how unwilling you are to even recognize your most basic of mistakes in regards to linguistics and definitions.
 

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I came back after a night of assuming you'd recognize how retarded you've been. You didn't, despite others telling you that you clearly don't have an understanding of basic definitions, so I came back to finish the job. I think it's safe to say that I have at this point though. There is nothing more that needs to be said to you here, you've perfectly illustrated what a fool you are and how unwilling you are to even recognize your most basic of mistakes in regards to linguistics and definitions.

Yes, but did you read page 8? If you have something to say about what has been said instead of living out another fantasy of yours, feel free.
 

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Yes, but did you read page 8? If you have something to say about what has been said instead of living out another fantasy of yours, feel free.
The fact that you can't understand what a philosophical conversation is, is genuinely concerning, and further gets me to question why I've bothered discoursing with you to begin with. I said it before, but I mean it this time, I'm out. Feel free to get whatever last second zingers you want in against me, I don't have the patience to keep up with someone as stubborn as yourself. So I'm sure you'll really come out on top when you do drop whatever zingers you got lol.
 
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The fact that you can't understand what a philosophical conversation is, is genuinely concerning, and further gets me to question why I've bothered discoursing with you to begin with.

The fact that you would frame contradictory sci-fi scenario as philosophical is.... "genuinely concerning". lol

Did'jya check page 8 yet? There's philosophical, about real things, in the now.
 

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Sorry I didn't answer earlier my dear tabzer, I'm not making the effort to go read people on my ignore list too often as you can imagine. But yes, you have been spewing transphobic nonsense since page 3 of this thread, so I'm sorry to tell you that you are, in fact, transphobic, there's no questioning that. Heck, I'll even give you the quote so you can verify for yourself :
Since you asked fo my 2 cents: gender is a representation of biological sex. If your gender doesn't match your sex, then you are akin to catfishing, or directly misleading society. It's morally repugnant to mislead people. As a joke, or an art form--that is honest, it can be appreciated. If you want to conceal your sex, for whatever reason, that is at least more self-representing. But playing dressup in society and wanting everyone to respect your roleplay makes you a joke by definition.

The why or how you arrived to those conclusions about how people are jokes or how there has to be sexual preferences in things that cannot even show a hint of sentience is not really important, however. All I see is you are making up things, and saying people said things like reproduction not being sexual without even being able to quote one of them for proof, which tends to prove you are misinterpreting things yourself... Just like you spend your time pretending that others do on this forum. You know, it's nice and all, but maybe you should be careful to not do too much of what you belittle others' arguments for doing, because it doesn't do too much good to your credibility.
 

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Artificial insemination is pretty basic. There's not really a lot to understand. What goes over your head that it is a facilitator of sexual reproduction, not a bypass. You don't think. You just paint people colors and then decide if you are going to listen to them or not based on what color you already selected. Your "understanding of medical science" is invalidated by what you say. The fact that you make additional effort to prop yourself as a caricature is your own doing. I really can't tell if you are a joke or a spaz.
I’ve not said it wasn’t sexual reproduction but stated that it doesn’t require direct sex between the individuals. People don’t have to directly have sex with each other in order for a biological child to be created when using artificial insemination. There’s still a reproductive process but it can all be done in a lab. Medical science has come a very long way over the years
This convo is enlightening to say the least. I'm also glad you edited your last portion about what you said about him so it stays clean and to the science of the matter instead of throwing insults/pissing contest.

What happens when it's 2 LGBT people and theyre both male but trans to female? What are they called then? 2 lesbians? Please excuse my ignorance to the whole LGBT thing.
Sometimes my less than pleasant thoughts get mixed into my posts and I either forget to remove before posting or post them without thinking things through. I will admit to be a rather emotional individual ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If they are both trans women, then it would be considered a lesbian relationship. If it’s trans woman and a cis man, then it can be considered heterosexual or however they want to identify their relationship. Relationships labels are up to the individuals involved and not really up to anyone else to decide.
 

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I now know of all of the transphobes to mute/ignore now
Thread like this are good for that. Most of the time it’s the same people anyways
 
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