California Court SHUTS DOWN Transgender Pronoun Law

MikaDubbz · Jul 30, 2021

tabzer said:
If a part of a person is attracted to that of the other gender, then that person is at least, in that capacity, heterosexual. Even if their minds disagree with physiology--nobody is purely homosexual/heterosexual.

You keep bringing it to a point beyond sexual preference though, which is all that heterosexuality describes by its definition. Think about it this way, you could be a heterosexual your whole life and never once have sex or fertilize an egg and thus never contribute to the next generation. Heterosexuality is not what is vital for life continuing on, sperm fertilizing an egg is ultimately all that is required, the sexual preferences of the provider of the sperm or egg does not matter at all.

Lacius · Jul 30, 2021

tabzer said:
If a part of a person is attracted to that of the other gender, then that person is at least, in that capacity, heterosexual. Even if their minds disagree with physiology--nobody is purely homosexual/heterosexual.

Sexual reproduction can occur without two people being attracted to each other. Sexual reproduction can occur without two people even being in the same room, building, or state.

Deleted member 194275 · Jul 30, 2021

Lacius said:
The law in question isn't about mistakenly misgendering someone. It's about people choosing to misgender people.

That was of of the parts was unclear to me, ty.

SG854 · Jul 30, 2021

Fun Fact Homosexuals are Gay

The Catboy · Jul 30, 2021

SG854 said:
Fun Fact Homosexuals are Gay

That’s the first time I’ve heard this news, my world is rocked now.

tabzer said:
You are relying on the idea that heterosexuality and sexual reproduction are not connected, so that you can pretend that homosexuality would reproduce in vacuum.

You realize that with medical science, people don’t even need to have sex to reproduce, right? Medical science has a lot of alternative means of conceiving a child that simply don’t require sex. There are same-sex parents who have had biological children through non-sexual means.
The only thing I’ve learned about this thread is that the anti-LGBT+ individuals don’t know shit about science and shouldn’t be taken seriously.

tabzer · Jul 30, 2021

Lilith Valentine said:
There are same-sex parents who have had biological children through non-sexual means.

Like, from a stork? "DUM"

Lacius said:
Sexual reproduction can occur without two people being attracted to each other. Sexual reproduction can occur without two people even being in the same room, building, or state.

Sexual reproduction can happen outside of a person, but the point I am making is that sexuality is in the DNA. Just because you want to be apart of a group that polarizes people and their sexuality in terms of homo and hetero doesn't mean that they have transcended their DNA. Even if someone says,"I'm homosexual, there is no way that I like girls," the ability to "lend themselves to reproduction" is primal and deeper than their current facebook status.

The Catboy · Jul 30, 2021

tabzer said:
Like, from a stork? "DUM"

Just when I think you've hit your peak stupidy, you come at me with this shit.

tabzer · Jul 30, 2021

Lilith Valentine said:
Just when I think you've hit your peak stupidy, you come at me with this shit.

You seem to think that because it happens in a lab that it is no longer sexual reproduction. Which is "DUM", as your glorious banner reinforces.

The Catboy · Jul 30, 2021

tabzer said:
You seem to think that because it happens in a lab that it is no longer sexual reproduction. Which is "DUM", as your glorious banner reinforces.

Holy shit, you just keep digging yourself deeper into your own stupidity, lol. Just say you don’t understand artificial insemination and get it over with, lol

tabzer · Jul 30, 2021

Lilith Valentine said:
Holy shit, you just keep digging yourself deeper into your own stupidity, lol. Just say you don’t understand artificial insemination and get it over with, lol

Do you need a peer reviewed medical journal detailing sexual reproduction? Just google it. Turkey basters don't magically make the the process non-sexual.

The Catboy · Jul 30, 2021

tabzer said:
Do you need a peer reviewed medical journal detailing sexual reproduction? Just google it. Turkey basters don't magically make the method non-sexual.

You are the gift that just keeps on giving

tabzer · Jul 30, 2021

Lilith Valentine said:
You are the gift that just keeps on giving

Ok fine. You will disagree when I say it.

Will you disagree with Lacius if he says it?

Lacius said:
Sexual reproduction can occur without two people being attracted to each other. Sexual reproduction can occur without two people even being in the same room, building, or state.

Remember, if you disagree with him, you disagree with science.

You literally have no room in the conversation other than to show off your LGBG badge.

Lacius · Jul 30, 2021

tabzer said:
Like, from a stork? "DUM"

Sexual reproduction can happen outside of a person, but the point I am making is that sexuality is in the DNA. Just because you want to be apart of a group that polarizes people and their sexuality in terms of homo and hetero doesn't mean that they have transcended their DNA. Even if someone says,"I'm homosexual, there is no way that I like girls," the ability to "lend themselves to reproduction" is primal and deeper than their current facebook status.

Are you saying that a person's sexual attractions are biological and immutable? That's pretty progressive of you, tabzer, to imply gay people were born that way.

tabzer · Jul 30, 2021

Lacius said:
Are you saying that a person's sexual attractions are biological and immutable? That's pretty progressive of you, tabzer, to imply gay people were born that way.

I don't often share the progressive aspects on an online forum that is overly saturated with it. That being said, there is always the ol' nature vs nurture argument. Both are influential. Nurture can create new nature and nature could be the source of the nurture.

Also, it's not only because of your DNA if you want to pretend you are a lgbt demon on online forums.

SG854 · Jul 30, 2021

tabzer said:
I don't often share the progressive aspects on an online forum that is overly saturated with it. That being said, there is always the ol' nature vs nurture argument. Both are influential. Nurture can create new nature and nature could be the source of the nurture.

Also, it's not only because of your DNA if you want to pretend you are a lgbt demon on online forums.

It's Lilith that a Demon not Lacius. Open your eyes kupo.

tabzer · Jul 30, 2021

Also, I am uncertain if DNA is immutable, or if DNA is just an expression of something else that we haven't observed yet.

Lacius · Jul 30, 2021

tabzer said:
I don't often share the progressive aspects on an online forum that is overly saturated with it. That being said, there is always the ol' nature vs nurture argument. Both are influential. Nurture can create new nature and nature could be the source of the nurture.

Also, it's not only because of your DNA if you want to pretend you are a lgbt demon on online forums.

We, of course, understand there is a biological component to the entire spectrum of sexualities. I'm not sure how this is relevant, however, to the fact that heterosexuality isn't required for reproduction. Heterosexuals are having nearly as much areproductive sex as homosexuals.

I don't remember how or when I interjected on this conversation, but I also don't see its major relevance to the thread topic. Trans people exist, and they should be treated with respect and dignity. Misgendering trans patients in nursing homes is a real problem, and whether or not one believes the solution is for the government to limit speech, something needs to be done about it.

tabzer said:
Also, I am uncertain if DNA is immutable, or if DNA is just an expression of something else that we haven't observed yet.

For all intents and purposes, one's genetics are an immutable characteristic.

tabzer · Jul 30, 2021

Lacius said:
Heterosexuals are having nearly as much areproductive sex as homosexuals

I would argue they are both able to do so because there is part of them that is heterosexual, too

Lacius said:
Misgendering trans patients in nursing homes is a real problem, and whether or not one believes the solution is for the government to limit speech, something needs to be done about it.

Maybe it could be your calling to start a LGBT nursing home.

Lacius said:
For all intents and purposes, one's genetics are an immutable characteristic.

You act like you know, but you don't know.

The Catboy · Jul 30, 2021

tabzer said:
I don't often share the progressive aspects on an online forum that is overly saturated with it. That being said, there is always the ol' nature vs nurture argument. Both are influential. Nurture can create new nature and nature could be the source of the nurture.

Also, it's not only because of your DNA if you want to pretend you are a lgbt demon on online forums.

I don’t “pretend” to be LGBT, that’s part of who I am. Enjoying myself as a demon online is just for fun. Nonetheless, at least I have a basic understanding of artificial insemination and don’t pretend heterosexuality is a requirement for insemination. The idea that my identity, online or offline, as means of invaliding my understanding of medical science is pretty shallow if you. I don’t discredit you for being a moogle.

tabzer · Jul 30, 2021

Lilith Valentine said:
I don’t “pretend” to be LGBT, that’s part of who I am. Enjoying myself as a demon online is just for fun. Nonetheless, at least I have a basic understanding of artificial insemination and don’t pretend heterosexuality is a requirement for insemination. The idea that my identity, online or offline, invalids my understanding of medical science is pretty shallow if you. I don’t discredit you for being a moogle, I discredit you because you continue to say wrong and stupid shit.

Artificial insemination is pretty basic. There's not really a lot to understand. What goes over your head that it is a facilitator of sexual reproduction, not a bypass. You don't think. You just paint people colors and then decide if you are going to listen to them or not based on what color you already selected. Your "understanding of medical science" is invalidated by what you say. The fact that you make additional effort to prop yourself as a caricature is your own doing. I really can't tell if you are a joke or a spaz.

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