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The officers noted them as terrorists, and also not antifa, but calling them trump supporters directly.
I point these things out since some of the misinformation and propaganda that republicans have pushed about the situation.
I point these things out since some of the misinformation and propaganda that republicans have pushed about the situation.
I'm having a hard time seeing why I should care about a mostly peaceful protest that resulted in a few hundred people breaking off from the main hundreds of thousands to trespass and harass lawmakers in a building that they left standing when the Left won't even acknowledge that their tens of thousands of riots that took place in which people were murdered, buildings looted and burnt to the ground were uncalled for. One single incident pales in comparison to the tens of thousands from the "other side". Saying a single incident is worse than tens of thousands reminds me of ...
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Ah, let me break that down for you then, comrade!
The "protest" in DC was a terrorist action aimed at overruling the will of the people at large, and murder did occur amongst those "hundreds of thousands" (good joke, by the by) when they actively assaulted the country's central point of legislation. Those that weren't charged do not condemn the actions, but handwave them. They were also rallied by a twice impeached traitor to his office to do this, which has grand and frightening implications and shows the ugly underbelly of a whole party (since this was at a partisan political rally).
BLM and similar groups were protesters engaged with violence and returned the violence in kind. The vast majority of their protests were peaceful, and they largely denounce senseless destruction of property and assault, and there wasn't any partisan politics involved. The number of arrests were far greater than at the White House, the amount of brutality against protesters was greater than at the White House, and the number of idiots shitposting about how everything was just fine and not worth investigating in the aftermath is far greater, too.
Seriously, kid, go serve your country before you mock those that actually have. Maybe some fresh air in the service will help get the scent of your bs off of ya.
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So your disagreeing with what the police said? You know, calling them trump supporters and terrorists?
awfully convenient
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Sorry, I would decide to show highlights, been then most republicans would call it click bait or "the media is wrong" or some other equivalent. So I decided to show as raw footage as possible
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go to 59 minutes in if you want to hear the point were officers start saying fairly damning shit.
Mostly for you personally, The first officer (the one from the domenican republic) had an element in the introduction of his speech, (which according to protocol was "reading a summery of his statements"), which went as follows:
We cant let other people relativize the happenings on said day, as we still need to maintain the US role as a moral rolemodel domestic and abroad.
Officer two (the one with a beard) had an element in his speech that went as follows: "We cant let other people relativize the happenings on said day, -- because it hurts my feelings and is a disgrace."
The bearded officer also had a clear dramaturgic structure in his speech that talked about him walking through the eerie scenario of abandoned checkpoints and empty cars towards the capitol, where then he experienced the most touching and impactful moment in his life seeing his superiors cough breathing gas, in the evening sun. Before pivoting into the part where he was almost beaten to death.
What do you think - where those speeches manufactured with a purpose?
(Are you keen on propagating it?
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)Acting as if 1/6 was some sort of serious "insurrection" is just pitiful.
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) July 26, 2021
None of the defendants has been charged with sedition, fomenting insurrection, attempted murder or anything like that. Because it wasn't that. It was a protest that turned into a 3-hour riot.
And to our friends on the far right, this is as much room as I'm giving you, I'll argue against your position on anything exceeding that in an instance..
The fourth officer talked about protesters/insurrectionists as terrorists, and then went into, that he didnt know why he was defending an entrance. They "thought they were the last line".
The other two officers there, were squaring off with (the main group of) protesters, one hour after the first breach of the Capitol building, apparently for no reason (we dont know why). Two people were killed as a result of their efforts. But they also secured an entrance. (Usually you give the mob space for the "group emotion" to discharge (including violently), then you enter with many more men (numbers), once the group identity/emotion of a mob starts to crumble, because it cant grow, and has 'reached', whatever they want to reach at that time. That is after evacuation. (First breach of the Capitol occured at 2:15 p.m. what the two officers were describing should have happened at 3:15 or later.)
They (capitol police and national guard) did that (letting group emotion discharge, and then confront in large numbers) in the rotunda of the Capitol in the evening, and took it in about 20 minutes.
Can I downvote this? Our riots are better than your riots, where poeple died?
On 6/1 at least 4 people did die, you know? (Didnt doublecheck, might have been five.)
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Your point being? I'd imagine that yes the speeches were manufactured, probably checked with their police department, which is not new. But what does it change? Unless your telling me that you know, the terrorists there, trying to stop an election (remember congress was there certifying the election) and actively looking for members of congress with weapons on them, (which we did see on camera) was not terrorists.
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Because the police only confirmed the exact same evidence seen.
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and if you really want to know the purpose, the purpose was to maintain the states a country and not have the government overthrown.
I'm pretty sure they (police administration) wrote the "statement" the first officer read, and that those (in large parts) werent his words.
I'm pretty sure "We cant let other people relativize the happenings on said day" was the common narrative that needed to be transported.
And I'm pretty sure, that those werent "whitness accounts" at least for the introduction and the "moral conclusion" that followed in all of them.
The rest of me "relativizing" what those statements were, already is in my first posting.
I'm mostly mentioning that, because the role of the police action on that day, isn't part of the public narrative anymore. And I think its cheap to let them get away with this.
At least dont let your officers read out preprepared statements, with the talking points you want to perpetuate, as "eye whitness accounts".
You are mixing genres.
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Yeah I ain't watching 3 and a half hours of grown ass men crying like a bunch of cunts because of them leading the protesters inside the capital themselves, I watched the highlights lol
Probably because of the picture of you with your head up your arse.
Who was surprised that the conservative response would be whataboutism?
What, nobody?
Who was surprised conservatives would go full toxic-masculinity and condemn men for crying, all while using anti-woman language (they're already being sexist by condemning a trait perceived to be feminine, so why not use anti-woman language too?)?
What, nobody?
Its only about an hour. And everyone is always encouraged to watch primary sources. Otherwise you are ending up with some youtuber again, telling you what to think, you know..
So dont do that - dont downplay actually watching what happend if you can.
Here:
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Dude, they're crying like they just witnessed their entire family being slaughtered in front of them, but they're crying over name calling and "the stress" of it all.
Ever hear of "Stick and Stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me"? If you cry over words and name calling and you're a grown adult, you deserve to be made fun of, period. As for the stress, if you can't handle the job, why are you even fucking working as a cop or security officer?
Can I downvote this? Our riots are better than your riots, where poeple died?
On 6/1 at least 4 people did die, you know? (Didnt doublecheck, might have been five.)
January 6th was mostly white people, the BLM protests were mostly black people.
Is it any surprise that they would minimize what the white people did while making out the black people were worse?
You're a cruel excuse for a human being. Nobody deserves to be made fun of, especially someone who is suffering. It's disturbing that someone would even think it was acceptable behavior. One has to wonder how messed up you are to get pleasure from making fun of them.
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No, no surprise. If you want to see it that way. I'd not even go into race, but just do that argument on political affiliation alone.
Again, my argument was mostly to Reual (just to think about a few concepts
) and not meant to represent the entirety of what happened on 6/1 or in the political control commitees.Bad argument for someone whos new to this stuff, because its neither simple, nor one dimensional.
(And could get dragged out of proportion very easily.)
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This has absolutely nothing to do with BLM or the murderous cops they protest (though there were also cops among the Jan 6 mob). This was a terrorist act, carried out by people who hate democracy and prefer authoritarianism/dictatorship. I'm not interested in dissecting why they believe the things they do, that obviously comes down to decades of right-wing propaganda. I'm only interested in deporting or jailing these criminals. You can't fix stupid, especially when it runs so deep that you think committing a terrorist act on behalf of a billionaire pedophile is a good idea that will earn you a reward in the end.
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