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Covid-19 vaccine

Will you get the vaccine?

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    Votes: 500 67.1%
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    Votes: 245 32.9%

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I put in more than six good months of telling everybody and their dog to get vaccinated, online and off

Holy crap.

It's not your "job" to 'encourage' people to get the vaccine. The vaccine is for people who are afraid of covid. If it's not good enough, stay inside, with a mask on.
 

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Holy crap.

It's not your "job" to 'encourage' people to get the vaccine. The vaccine is for people who are afraid of covid. If it's not good enough, stay inside, with a mask on.
Thankfully it's not my job to ensure anti-vaxxers are well-informed and argue the facts from every psychological angle on the books, I couldn't possibly get paid enough for that. Ultimately they're most likely to be harming themselves more than anyone else, which is again why conservatives are scrambling to reverse their messaging now. If even half of the old farts in the party die off, they're never winning another election on the federal level again. Not to mention all the COVID long-haulers who might start demanding better healthcare.
I didn't say it was my job, I just want all the people I know to stay safe. If you don't want the same for the people closest to you, then maybe you're a bit of a narcissist or sociopath.
 
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I didn't say it was my job, I just want all the people I know to stay safe. If you don't want the same for the people closest to you, then maybe you're a bit of a narcissist or sociopath.

Yeah, I'm a narcissist and a sociopath because I think you *are conflicted.
 
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If your primary goal is "whatever is popular", as you have inferred before, it has little to do with being objective.
Your logic and the way you twist things is fucking crazy.

So you are against the vaccine because it is popular among doctors and researchers?


You are the most ridiculous person I have ever seen.
 
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Your logic and the way you twist things is fucking crazy.

So you are against the vaccine because it is popular among doctors and researchers?


You are the most ridiculous person I have ever seen.

I am skeptical of the *new-type vaccine for many reasons. Not because it is "popular". Nice projection, idiot.

"If you don't want the same for the people closest to you, then maybe you're a bit of a narcissist or sociopath."

I wasn't sure that statement applied to you, but I guess you kind of confirmed it now, eh?

I read it as an insinuation as you didn't really give a third option. If you have something to add, I am here for you.
 
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I am skeptical of the vaccine for many reasons. Not because it is popular. Nice projection, idiot.

You've kinda egged on a bit of hostility, comrade. If you've got reasons for those concerns, voice 'em. Otherwise you're just shitposting and sharing a scam artist pariah whose been debunked so many times it might make one's head spin.
 
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You've kinda egged on a bit of hostility, comrade. If you've got reasons for those concerns, voice 'em. Otherwise you're just shitposting and sharing a scam artist pariah whose been debunked so many times it might make one's head spin.

The irony of this post coming from someone who has already been debunked.
 

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I am skeptical of the vaccine for many reasons. Not because it is "popular". Nice projection, idiot.



I read it as an insinuation as you didn't really give a third option. If you have something to add, I am here for you.
Can't be projection if thats not my reason on why I support vaccines.

You calling me idiot makes me feel nothing considering how bad your arguments are. If you were a better debater then it would have more sting but your like a bee that has no stinger.
 

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You've kinda egged on a bit of hostility, comrade. If you've got reasons for those concerns, voice 'em. Otherwise you're just shitposting and sharing a scam artist pariah whose been debunked so many times it might make one's head spin.
That fact that I have repeatedly told Tabzer exactly the reasons why I support vaccines and then for them to come to the conclusion that I support it because of popularity frustrates me.
 

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Nice to see that there is still only ONE View that is the correct View....

What about maybe this View ?

It would be more interesting to research why People have never been infected,even though they have hundreds of contacts on the job every day and hundreds of contacts in public transport. Perhaps there is also Solution !



But......na........nobody wants to hear that.....
 
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Nice to see that there is still only ONE View that is the correct View....

What about maybe this View ?

It would be more interesting to research why People have never been infected,even though they have hundreds of contacts on the job every day and hundreds of contacts in public transport. Perhaps there is also Solution !



But......na........nobody wants to hear that.....
I was one of those people. Constant contact with all kinds of different people at my job. And worked during pandemic shut down since my job was essential. Never got covid. But I did wear a mask the whole time. So I've come to the conclusion that was the solution.
 
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Nice to see that there is still only ONE View that is the correct View....

What about maybe this View ?

It would be more interesting to research why People have never been infected,even though they have hundreds of contacts on the job every day and hundreds of contacts in public transport. Perhaps there is also Solution !



But......na........nobody wants to hear that.....

Because... that isn't particularly helpful on its own? Now, if you actually did a crap-ton of contact tracing, found individuals with multiple contacts with infected people without developing any symptoms, got them to submit to tests, and found that they had been infected and that their antibodies fought it off without damage, MAYBE research into factors such as diet, medications and medical history, etcettera could be looked into to aide in prevention, but hearsay and anecdotes are worthless and there are proven treatments and measures to counteract the virus right now.

There is still only one view that is the correct view. Sorry if it isn't convenient enough, but the math on this isn't going to change regardless of how much you'd like it to.
 

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I was one of those people. Constant contact with all kinds of different people at my job. And worked during pandemic shut down since my job was essential. Never got covid. But I did wear a mask the whole time. So I've come to the conclusion that was the solution.

You said,you wear a Mask and you never got Covid.Very good,Really.:)
A very nice Example.

Are you now vaccinated ?
For the Example you brought and for the Pro Vaccination Side,the Fact,you can still get Covid (of course with not so hard Symptoms).



There is still only one view that is the correct view. Sorry if it isn't convenient enough, but the math on this isn't going to change regardless of how much you'd like it to.

So one Point if you allow please (and it is nothing against you and your Post,my Friend.:)).

Would you be so nice and kind @Dakitten and can you please explain me the Logic of Vaccination ALL People with the Example from @SG854 please ?
(I am willing to understand the ONE View....)


I hope I made my Question really clear and with no Offending please.
Thank you.:)
 
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Can't be projection if thats not my reason on why I support vaccines.

You calling me idiot makes me feel nothing considering how bad your arguments are. If you were a better debater then it would have more sting but your like a bee that has no stinger.

Arguing for the sake "herd immunity" but not connected to popularity? Claiming I'm the one twisting things and "fucking crazy", but saying that I am against vaccines because of "popularity"?

Yes, it is projection on your part.

If you believe in an institution (which lies) and hate whistleblowers, then I can admit that I envy your confidence.
 

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So one Point if you allow please (and it is nothing against you and your Post,my Friend.:)).

Would you be so nice and kind and can you please explain me the Logic of Vaccination ALL People with the Example from @SG854 please ?
(I am willing to understand the ONE View....)


I hope I made my Question really clear and with no Offending please.
Thank you.:)

Sure, I'll take a jab at it (yay reusing jokes!) as best I can. The vaccination reduces the chance of catching the virus, with the side benefit of quicker recovery times with less side effects. The end result is more people being immune or at least resistant to the virus and its deviant strains. The fewer times the virus can incubate in people, the less it mutates and the lower the chance of a breakthrough infection, or worse, a variant that can bypass our present vaccination. This also helps to protect those who can't get the vaccine, like children and those with preexisting conditions, who might not die or suffer extreme complications very often, but more often than complications from healthy adults taking the vaccine.

If Vaccines are as safe as everyone claims Billionaires do not need blanket liability immunity. Auto-industry does just fine without a liability waiver killing or maiming a much larger percentage of people than vaccines do.

https://money.usnews.com/investing/...sts-25-billion-in-2021-sales-of-covid-19-shot

Aaaaand now we're back to the krazy konspiracy komedy hour! I'll take Foxi being a bit disingenuous and smug all day every day over this sort of madness. All vaccines have a level of immunity via the vaccine injury compensation fund because usually vaccines aren't literally required to maintain global stability, and thus are not very profitable despite their obvious need, and should anyone hit the vicf, the government then will review the companies because they don't like losing money... hell, didn't I do this dance already? I don't even get the point of the article and statement. Is it saying capitalists in one industry aren't as bad as capitalists in another? Are vaccines and cars supposed to be treated the same? Is this hype for J&J for having a one shot solution?
 
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