federal judge ruled DACA unlawful,

jimbo13 · Jul 23, 2021

D34DL1N3R said:
Adding to your ignore list is in FACT placing yourself in an echo chamber because you are then flat out refusing to hear the opinions of others that don't agree with you. And "dishonest hypocritical liberals on this site"???? Ohhhh, the pure hypocrisy of that statement. Fucking seriously?

Nonsense, most people on this topic like to debate and argue. But there are also many bratty delusional marxist who rarely have a coherent point. If all someone does is shit post and name call we ignore them instead of engaging before Sicklyboy comes thru looking for excuses to suspend conservatives.

SuzieJoeBob · Jul 24, 2021

You don't seem to be open to anything that contradicts with your beliefs, so I'll concede to the inability to reason with a person who is deaf to it.

I WILL make a few "final statements" though.

Xzi said:
l be sure to ask if I ever need help with synonyms, thanks.

None of these apply, and you still haven't been able to verbalize a single way in which you would benefit from DACA being repealed. So I'm just gonna assume you concede that point.

1) You still don't understand immature is not a synonym of malevolent. Vocabulary is finite, your lack of understanding it isn't.

2) You either lack reading comprehension skills or choose to make inferences based on 'facts' that only you can see. Just because I won't give my reason doesn't mean I am missing one. I choose not to post something that I am uncomfortable speaking about. If someone was a sexual assault victim or domestic abuse victim who never told anyone, does that mean it never happened? How about someone who isn't public about a disease they have, like Chadwick Boseman?

You can continue to make a fool of yourself, but I am no longer going to entertain the court jester.

D34DL1N3R · Jul 24, 2021

jimbo13 said:
Nonsense, most people on this topic like to debate and argue. But there are also many bratty delusional marxist who rarely have a coherent point. If all someone does is shit post and name call we ignore them instead of engaging before Sicklyboy comes thru looking for excuses to suspend conservatives.

If you feel that conservatives are the only ones here that have been reprimanded for their behavior, I need to correct you. You are factually wrong.

jimbo13 · Jul 24, 2021

D34DL1N3R said:
If you feel that conservatives are the only ones here that have been reprimanded for their behavior, I need to correct you. You are factually wrong.

No you need to correct your imagination and whatever voice in your head your arguing with.

D34DL1N3R · Jul 24, 2021

jimbo13 said:
No you need to correct your imagination and whatever voice in your head your arguing with.

That makes absolutely ZERO sense in the context of things and what you're STILL telling me and everyone else is that not a single liberal has been reprimanded here for their actions. Yet you want to talk about imaginations and voices? LMFAO!!!! It just doesn't get much better than this, but continue on with that entire foot & mouth thing because you know, you're STILL factually wrong. But whatever floats your boat to make you STILL feel like a victim. Poor you. Everyone out to get you and those pesky conservatives. It's all just so unfair!!!!

jimbo13 · Jul 27, 2021

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Deleted User · Jul 27, 2021

Lacius said:
"BLM" didn't do this.

"BLM" in quotes, does that refer to the organization founded by trained Marxists now buying mansions across the country? Or local chapters? The local chapters organization's followers sure did, I know a couple of them. You're funny.

Xzi · Jul 27, 2021

eastwald said:
does that refer to the organization founded by trained Marxists now buying mansions across the country?

The fuck is a "trained Marxist?" A worker with a shred of self-respect? And why would capitalists give them a bunch of free money to buy mansions with? I must've missed that convention.

Seriously though, you're spouting total nonsense. Put down the crack pipe.

Lacius · Jul 27, 2021

eastwald said:
"BLM" in quotes, does that refer to the organization founded by trained Marxists now buying mansions across the country? Or local chapters? The local chapters organization's followers sure did, I know a couple of them. You're funny.

I used quotes because I was referencing the post I was replying to. If you're interested in learning about Black Lives Matter, I recommend the Wikipedia article.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter

Deleted User · Jul 27, 2021

Xzi said:
The fuck is a "trained Marxist?" A worker with a shred of self-respect? And why would capitalists give them a bunch of free money to buy mansions with? I must've missed that convention.

Seriously though, you're spouting total nonsense. Put down the crack pipe.

Total nonsense etc.. default reply.

Ask them:

Marxists want a single-party state, with government control of everything. This ideology has killed hundreds of millions of people.

Equity of outcome is a delusion that goes against everything we know about human behavior. You think smartphones would exist under your system? If they did, they'd be subject to heavy censorship, another tenet of Marxism.

I'd suggest you pick up a book (or 10 - they were prolific) by these people you respect so much. "One Dimensional Man" , anything by Herbert Marcuse , Escape from Freedom, Negative Dialectics, Reason and Revolution for starters. There are a lot more. Read one or two and get back to me.

Don't envy people who viewed society from "Grand Hotel Abyss" when you've never entered the Hotel.

The only group of people, i.e. fascists, forcing ideas down peoples throats currently are coming from your party. We have a live and let live approach, so long as you respect diverse views aside from your own. That includes religions - and subsequent morality that has made progress in society. Use old establishment conservatism examples as much as you want, and you'll see

If you were born with no idea of morality (thousands of years at this point), you think it would come naturally?

Everyone's enemy is crony Capitalism. China uses many aspects of Capitalism to survive. I kind of enjoy rewarding people w/ great ideas. Not so much as what it's turned into - btw, these mega-corps all support (for now) your ideals, but they'll never go "full retard" - Tropic Thunder like you have been brainwashed into doing. They see you as useful idiots, with all due respect, for now. You still buy phones, shoes, etc. They will turn on you like a dime, and every person in this country who doesn't have total disdain for America and/or religion will fight till the death before they renounce God - another Marx thing.

I was an atheist until I did work for some universities creating base-4 VM interpreters for chaining human genome. I believe in evolution, but there is a design that is undeniable, and not created by chance. The man who discovered DNA had similar revelations after his discovery.

Xzi · Jul 27, 2021

eastwald said:
Marxists want a single-party state, with government control of everything. This ideology has killed hundreds of millions of people.

So kinda like what we're dealing with under capitalist oligarchy right now? Authoritarianism is not exclusive to any economic system. Socialists want workers to have control over the means of production, not necessarily government, though some believe a centralized government would have to seize everything before it could be redistributed to the working class. It is almost entirely out of the question that the ruling class (millionaires and billionaires) would give up a large portion of their ill-gotten wealth voluntarily, but as a democratic socialist I think we can pass a second bill of workers' rights (New Deal 2.0) to at least rid ourselves of exploitative employers going forward.

eastwald said:
Equity of outcome is a delusion that goes against everything we know about human behavior.

Who said anything about equity of outcome? Tougher jobs should pay more, and that includes fast food and retail work. Corporations really don't have much choice lately with the "worker shortage."

eastwald said:
The only group of people, i.e. fascists, are coming from your party. We have a live and let live approach, so long as you respect diverse views aside from your own. That includes religions - and subsequent morality that has made progress in society.

So your claim is that group of snow-white tiki torch nazis marching through Charlottesville repeatedly shouting, "Jews will not replace us!" ...They were leftists? Nobody's buying that snake oil, sorry bud.

jimbo13 · Jul 27, 2021

eastwald said:
I was an ashiest until I did work for some universities creating base-4 VM interpreters for chaining human genome. I believe in evolution, but there is a design that is undeniable, and not created by chance. The man who discovered DNA had similar revelations after his discovery.

Glad I'm not the only one who knows what's up.

Xzi · Jul 27, 2021

eastwald said:
Everyone's enemy is crony Capitalism. China uses many aspects of Capitalism to survive. I kind of enjoy rewarding people w/ great ideas. Not so much as what it's turned into - btw, these mega-corps all support (for now) your ideals, but they'll never go "full retard" - Tropic Thunder like you have been brainwashed into doing. They see you as useful idiots, with all due respect, for now. You still buy phones, shoes, etc. They will turn on you like a dime, and every person in this country who doesn't have total disdain for America and/or religion will fight till the death before they renounce God - another Marx thing.

Literally every Marxist/leftist on the planet knows that corporations aren't our friends, it's cute that you thought you were teaching me something new here. I do appreciate your admission that modern capitalism has plenty of problems, though.

eastwald said:
I was an ashiest until I did work for some universities creating base-4 VM interpreters for chaining human genome. I believe in evolution, but there is a design that is undeniable, and not created by chance. The man who discovered DNA had similar revelations after his discovery.

Not sure what the discussion has to do with religion, but I'm agnostic precisely because we can't know the unknowable. I dig and very much identify with the concept of FF7's lifestream, but can I say for certain that's how the afterlife works? Of course not. I see the commitment to any one man-made religion as similarly ridiculous, as they're just stories built upon and remixed from older stories. I also think both the Egyptian and Viking mythologies are neat, as an aside.

seany1990 · Jul 27, 2021

And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, given thy neighbour is white and of wealth. There is none other commandment greater than these.
-Mark Ch 12 v 30
Evangelical edition

Lacius · Jul 28, 2021

eastwald said:
I was an ashiest until I did work for some universities creating base-4 VM interpreters for chaining human genome. I believe in evolution, but there is a design that is undeniable, and not created by chance. The man who discovered DNA had similar revelations after his discovery.

By definition, evolution by natural selection isn't design. I'd be curious to know how you reached the conclusion that anything about the human genome is designed.

jimbo13 · Jul 28, 2021

seany1990 said:
And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, given thy neighbour is white and of wealth. There is none other commandment greater than these.
-Mark Ch 12 v 30
Evangelical edition

Neighbor being used to denote proximity is a rather vapid interpretation of the word, shared culture & values are much more relevant. Not everyone has a multiculturalism fetish and if someone wants to live in a homogeneous community mind yo bizzness.

Lacius · Jul 28, 2021

jimbo13 said:
Neighbor being used to denote proximity is a rather vapid interpretation of the word, shared culture & values are much more relevant. Not everyone has a multiculturalism fetish and if someone wants to live in a homogeneous community mind yo bizzness.

This sounds an awful lot like how people used to defend racial segregation in the United States.

jimbo13 · Jul 28, 2021

Lacius said:
This sounds an awful lot like how people used to defend racial segregation in the United States.

I see no difference in quality of life between socially engineered government mandated segregation and government mandated diversity.

I rather people make up their own minds and foster communities they went to live in, The elderly legally discriminate against the young because they want to live in a community of shared experience. Nothing wrong with that choice, what is wrong is the government making it for you.

djpannda · Jul 28, 2021

jimbo13 said:
I see no difference in quality of life between socially engineered government mandated segregation and government mandated diversity.

I rather people make up their own minds and foster communities they went to live in, The elderly legally discriminate against the young because they want to live in a community of shared experience. Nothing wrong with that choice, what is wrong is the government making it for you.

Then you are in favor for COVID passports “socially engineered government mandated segregation”.. Jimbo you changed lol

Deleted User · Jul 28, 2021

Xzi said:
Literally every Marxist/leftist on the planet knows that corporations aren't our friends, it's cute that you thought you were teaching me something new here. I do appreciate your admission that modern capitalism has plenty of problems, though.

Not sure what the discussion has to do with religion, but I'm agnostic precisely because we can't know the unknowable. I dig and very much identify with the concept of FF7's lifestream, but can I say for certain that's how the afterlife works? Of course not. I see the commitment to any one man-made religion as similarly ridiculous, as they're just stories built upon and remixed from older stories. I also think both the Egyptian and Viking mythologies are neat, as an aside.

I don't like how you say Marxist/leftist like it's singular, but we are reaching civil territory - which I appreciate. Of course it has flaws - mostly because of the Government (i.e. too big to fail, mil industrial complex - for defense contracting I did, I honestly did double-takes looking at the orders. Like wtf? and I'm paying for this...? and the involvements we have now are based on lies, both historically and now!)

Marxist ideology is based off Atheism, that is why I mentioned religion. Lots of new archelogy digs in Israel are showing King David and Solomon have have had much larger kingdoms, casting doubt on what many to think is historic fact (I'm generally non-observant, I just think there's stuff going on we can't and won't understand. No ill will against agnostics, you admit science can't 100% explain certain aspects, which IMO (science) has turned into a religion in itself to some people. Glad you're not one. Lets keep it civil here out, eh?

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djpannda said:
Then you are in favor for COVID passports “socially engineered government mandated segregation”.. Jimbo you changed lol

I think he may be refering to the segregated graduations happening at especially-woke universities/high schools, reversing what we thought was a good thing, rights equality. And mandated job equality is giving people of lesser qualifications might be giving people jobs they absolutely can't perform. Just a guess, since the only place I hear this 100% pro vax stuff is here after all the changes of face / goal posts moving faster than a football game.

Guys I talk to who live in the city I've noticed are very opposed to them, bc the advertising is so pushy, and have heard the rushed thing - which every Democrat said before the election i.e. "vaccine deadline impossible" - so I understand and agree with them on that.

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