Windows 11 will be a free upgrade for Windows 10 users and will feature new gaming enhancements

Soldengun · Jun 25, 2021

Hopefully it's not another Vista!

Armadillo · Jun 25, 2021

TPM requirement is anything Intel before Skylake is pretty much fucked then. PTT (embedded tpm pretty much) wasn't added till z170.

Earlier chipsets tend to have a tpm header, but getting one that is compatible with old boards and making it work, seems to be a minefield.

I don't like the change anyway, it's forced obsolescence. A lot of the stuff that is incompatible has more than enough power to still be relevant today. Hopefully Microsoft rethink forcing it.

chrisrlink · Jun 25, 2021

my Gateway laptop can run it via the health check app report (Ryzen 5 4600H+nvidia gtx 1650) but i doubt my Xeon E5 can run it sucks for Mac M1 users cant even run windows natively only via VM I wonder if Win 11 will change that?

Obveron · Jun 25, 2021

Lacius said:
Windows 9x, good. Windows ME, bad. Windows XP, good. Windows Vista, bad. Windows 7, good. Windows 8 and 8.1, bad. Windows 10, good. Windows 11... bad?

Added a couple to the front of your list ^^

MarioMasta64 · Jun 25, 2021

nightweb said:
The Bit that got me was Under System requirements it has "Windows 11 Home edition requires internet connectivity and a Microsoft account to complete device setup on first use."

Nooooope

when i was going through setup on the leaked iso there was an option to use an offline account even tho my pc had internet so idk it might be a requirement on release, i do know windows 10 forced you to login if reinstalled with internet connected, tho i think theres cases where it lets you choose offline as well (from many many reinstallation of peoples computers for hobby money)

also note how windows 10 if used on a local account will sometimes popup with "complete setup" menu after upgrades so if they mean it like that then itd be the same and if they dont then oof pain

pustal · Jun 25, 2021

Urbanshadow said:
The printing stack its still the same as we had in windows vista and it is not likely to dissapear as it would break many many many many applications including all adobe suite and the office package.

It´s not like Im calling bs on your claim but Win32 (as architectur) is such a burden in the windows kernel you just canot get rid of it.

Ofc, but it may not just be a Windows 10 with some tweaks and have workflows changed in some aspects.

Spider_Man · Jun 25, 2021

Direct x, god when will they get rid of this shit graphic driver.

Forcing hdr as auto, hmmm not a good idea as it required resources, have fun trying to disable it when win 10 is a pain in the arse to get access to something when it forces a basic version like its ment for mobiles, yet you have to manually seek what you want hidden away from the search feature.

The os does not need to include a dumbed down console os features just proves that xbox isnt a console, its a cheap oc, now our pcs are been forced to run a cheap console os and features.

A good idea would be that if you have bought an xbox game, you get the pc version and sync game data to and from.

Like if you buy a xbx1 game, you get the sx version free, why isnt pc version included?

D34DL1N3R · Jun 25, 2021

Needing an online account was shown to be able to be bypassed 5 days ago, and now it's been shown that Win11 also does not require TMP 2.0. Only 1.2. The health check app is just giving incorrect information.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/windows-11/#hardware-requirements

fvig2001 · Jun 25, 2021

I hate that my laptop is 7th gen and then there was a revision 3 months later that was 8th gen with a minor speedboost. It's not like I'll be playing Win 11 exclusive games on it anyway.

Asia81 · Jun 25, 2021

I activated the intel TPM things in my bios but the health app still say My PC is not compatible with W11, any ideas ?

StrayGuitarist · Jun 25, 2021

I really can't trust Microsoft after all the anti-privacy bullshit they forced onto us with Windows 10. I've stuck with 8.1 with ClassicShell forever, and I probably will until my hardware stops supporting it, in which case I'll find some Linux distro I don't hate.

Kioku · Jun 25, 2021

Asia81 said:
I activated the intel TPM things in my bios but the health app still say My PC is not compatible with W11, any ideas ?

Probably a bug.

RedBlueGreen · Jun 25, 2021

The only thing that interests me is the native Android app support. I hope they get rid of all the crap introduced in Windows 10 updates like the weather and news things. The only thing stopping me from switching to a Linux distro like Pop OS is that even with Proton gaming on Linux is a pain. Windows 10 updates breaking crap and bloating the OS are a slightly smaller pain.

Oh I do like the new taskbar though. Doesn't look as bad as Windows 10's does now. I miss basic Windows 7 taskbar when it was just the start button, your pinned programs, and time, volume, and battery if applicable. Windows 10 is start button, search bar, task view button, pinned programs, weather, battery, volume, language, time, and notification center.

Asia81 said:
I activated the intel TPM things in my bios but the health app still say My PC is not compatible with W11, any ideas ?

Same here. I think it's just a bug or the tool reports inaccurate information. If the past is any indication stuff not officially supported might run Win11 just fine.

Ryab · Jun 25, 2021

So I just checked. My computer which was just built a little over a year ago. Does not support Windows 11.

BitMasterPlus · Jun 25, 2021

Technically Windows 11 is Windows 10, and Windows 10 was Windows 9, even though they skipped the number 9 like a bunch of dumbfucks. I mean, it wasn't that much of a leap that they needed to go straight to 10. How can I trust a company to give me a competent OS if they can't even count right? lol

Pipistrele · Jun 25, 2021

Native Android app support is legit dope though, kinda excited for it.

nl255 · Jun 25, 2021

BitMasterPlus said:
Technically Windows 11 is Windows 10, and Windows 10 was Windows 9, even though they skipped the number 9 like a bunch of dumbfucks. I mean, it wasn't that much of a leap that they needed to go straight to 10. How can I trust a company to give me a competent OS if they can't even count right? lol

They had to skip Windows 9 otherwise a ton of software wouldn't work because it would think it was being run under Windows 95/98 because it would check for the substring "Windows 9".

Jiehfeng · Jun 25, 2021

AirbusX said:
sorry I misread what you wrote, I thought it was I grew up with windows 10 lol

Yeah haha, iirc I either grew up with DOS or Windows 95, all I remember was that I played some DOS games and that 95/98 look familiar, never really knew what Windows was until XP came.

Urbanshadow · Jun 25, 2021

pustal said:
Ofc, but it may not just be a Windows 10 with some tweaks and have workflows changed in some aspects.

I am telling you it will because windows 10 is really Windows 7 with some tweaks, and Windows 7 is a mix between Windows Vista and Win XP SP3 with some tweaks.

And it has to be like this not because Microsoft wants it this way or because they do things half-assed (which we can discuss but it is not the topic) it has to be like this because most third party will break badly and those third parties are big enough to exert a so vast amount of pressure to successfully block progress into the operating system only to avoid setting their budgets to rebuild the humongous architecture chaos their core applications have become.

There is no easy way out of this unless Microsoft fixes the inherent problems their Insider Program has, and let's everyone be ready for a big new version of Windows on launch day.

EDIT: As an example, services mostly still work the same way they did on Windows NT a whooping 28 years later.

MiiJack · Jun 25, 2021

I'll wait for Windows 11 debloater before jumping into this.

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