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Please leave these kind of things out of a kid game.
No gender allowed in our kids game!

This thread actually makes me curious if nonbinary animals exist too. Is gender a social construct? This is all quite confusing.
I would imagine animals don't care about gender, like at all. They have no conception of what male or female means since they're animals, they just exist. Since they don't share our understanding of binary gender (because binary gender is a western construct) or gender at all, perhaps we could consider all animals to be non-binary or agender.
 
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This thread actually makes me curious if nonbinary animals exist too. Is gender a social construct? This is all quite confusing.
I don't believe gender exists in animals, only sex. I don't think an enby pokemon would make much sense because... aren't pokemon basically animals? If they want nb stuff in pokémon, wouldn't be adding it as an option (or better yet) removing gender from the trainer customization thing?
 

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This thread actually makes me curious if nonbinary animals exist too. Is gender a social construct? This is all quite confusing.

Well if makes people feel better I always play as a girl in Pokémon lol I've been playing as a guy for so many years I had wanted to switch it up a little. But Pokémon are identical but in order to breed some have to be abled as makle or female. Then you have the Legendary Pokémon or the Pokémon that was made from a lab.

The only thing I can see Nintendo doing if they have not done is let the girl or the guy character dress up in men or women clothing. Because once again Pokemon Y , Lets Go Evee, and Pokemon Sword I have played as a chick.
 
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No gender allowed in our kids game!


I would imagine animals don't care about gender, like at all. They have no conception of what male or female means since they're animals, they just exist. Since they don't share our understanding of binary gender or gender at all, perhaps we could consider all animals to be non-binary.
I think I understand a bit better now. So nonbinary means that someone doesn't feel exclusively male or female, it has nothing to do with looks or the biological gender.

I wonder at what age one starts to realize/question their own gender. I don't want to be disrespectful to anyone, but it still does seem odd to me that a little kid would think about this.
 
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As a psychologist, I can say that this gender trainwreck is hurting society and especially children. The amount of depressions and (attempted) suicides have sky rocketed these last few years. Often it's because children are starting to feel abnormal, if they are regular straight.

I'm glad Hungary has decided to protect children from these views They should discover this on their own when the time is right. People can and should be allowed to be any sexual orrientation they please, but let's keep this away from movies/games/... , Especially those which come into contact with children.
 

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I think I understand a bit better now. So nonbinary means that someone doesn't feel exclusively male or female, it has nothing to do with looks or the biological gender.

I wonder at what age one starts to realize/question their own gender. I don't want to be disrespectful to anyone, but it still does seem odd to me that a little kid would think about this.

Ehh it's a rather complex issue some men and women feel they are born in the wrong body. But people have to realize this has been going on for thousands of years. As for the child I mean no disrespect but it wasn't a good letter to send because Nintendo already have genderless pokemon inside the game.

At the end of the day there are two genders male or female. Now if you want to "feel" like a woman or a man that is no problem that is your choice but unless you surgically remove your private area (which most dont do) despite how you feel on the inside you will still be labeled as the gender you are born on the outside. I have no problem with transgender people or people who like the same sex... but the difference is for the people who like the same sex that has been going on for thousand of years but for the transgender people unless you go all the way from male to female or female to male you will still be considered as male.

This may sound a little racist but lets just say a white guy paint is skin black and now he calls himself a black guy because he feels black on the inside. Unless he actually change his skin and the texture of his skin as a black man he will always still be a while man all he is doing is painting is skin black. It's kinda he same thing I hope this really make sense. You can wear wigs and makeup and etc..etc.. and even get implants but if you still have the male anatomy you have to get rid of it completely to be considered as a 100% female and it goes vice versa.
 
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As a psychologist, I can say that this gender trainwreck is hurting society and especially children. The amount of depressions and (attempted) suicides have sky rocketed these last few years. Often it's because children are starting to feel abnormal, if they are regular straight.

I'm glad Hungary has decided to protect children from these views They should discover this on their own when the time is right. People can and should be allowed to be any sexual orrientation they please, but let's keep this away from movies/games/... , Especially those which come into contact with children.
In my opinion it is the unjustified prejudice of people (and the feeling of shame for being "different" caused by it) that is driving people into depression and suicide.

That's why it would be helpful to portray non heterosexuality and gender nonconformity in a positive light in media (including games).

I agree that very young children should not be confronted with this, but removing the topic from schools and banning it from public media is a mistake. It adds further fuel to the prejudice of people.


When I was a teenager homosexuality was very much frowned upon and not talked about in public.

This fear of being called out for being "wrong" and not being able to talk to anybody about how I feel hurts. I didn't know how my friends / parents would react if I ever mentioned it. I felt alone in the world and hated myself for being different.

I can only imagine that nonbinary people experience similar feelings of shame and being left alone.
 
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Ehh it's once again a deep topic because I will give you an example. Transgender women are playing on sports team as naturally born women and it is giving the girls a disadvantage. The thing with children being so young they can be easily influenced and your mind doesn't fully develop until you are 25 years old. At the end of the day it will come down to the parents and their children because as much as parents try to shield their children from the truth (sex, drugs, and etc..) they can get exposed to those things quickly.

Homosexuality and Prostitution was being done for thousands and thousands of years and nothing is going to change that. You have some men and women that are genially attracted to the same sex there is nothing wrong with them that is what they like.

Hell I think some transgender chicks' are hot and you would never tell they were born a male if you look at some of them. Some of them look prettier than some women. So at the end of the day it is a extremely touchy an difficult subject to cover on a gaming forum lol.
 
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There’s actual transphobia happening in this thread and calling that out and saying the are wrong isn’t some “hypocrisy.” This isn’t about wanting people to fall in line, it’s about wanting to stop a harmful practice and set of beliefs that kills innocent people every single day. Transphobia is the problems, transphobia harms and kills innocent people, it’s not hypocritical to be against something harmful towards the existence of others.

You just completely invalidated everything I said.
 

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Ehh it's a rather complex issue some men and women feel they are born in the wrong body. But people have to realize this has been going on for thousands of years. As for the child I mean no disrespect but it wasn't a good letter to send because Nintendo already have genderless pokemon inside the game.

At the end of the day there are two genders male or female. Now if you want to "feel" like a woman or a man that is no problem that is your choice but unless you surgically remove your private area (which most dont do) despite how you feel on the inside you will still be labeled as the gender you are born on the outside. I have no problem with transgender people or people who like the same sex... but the difference is for the people who like the same sex that has been going on for thousand of years but for the transgender people unless you go all the way from male to female or female to male you will still be considered as male.

This may sound a little racist but lets just say a white guy paint is skin black and now he calls himself a black guy because he feels black on the inside. Unless he actually change his skin and the texture of his skin as a black man he will always still be a while man all he is doing is painting is skin black. It's kinda he same thing I hope this really make sense. You can wear wigs and makeup and etc..etc.. and even get implants but if you still have the male anatomy you have to get rid of it completely to be considered as a 100% female and it goes vice versa.
The problem is that biological gender and gender identitiy are two entirely different things.
Biological gender is what you are born as, either male or female. (In very rare cases hermaphrodite).

Gender identity is what you identify as. This is where it gets complicated because it does not have to match your biological gender.
 
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It doesn't have to be confusing. Once upon a time there were man and woman. Now, we got 324535674568847874 genders that don't exist but people are forcing us to accept they do in their insanity. I don't get why it's got to be so complicated nowadays? Can't people count to 2 anymore?
 

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It doesn't have to be confusing. Once upon a time there were man and woman. Now, we got 324535674568847874 genders that don't exist but people are forcing us to accept they do in their insanity. I don't get why it's got to be so complicated nowadays? Can't people count to 2 anymore?
there's like 5 or so, i think
 
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