Hacking Nintendo Switch Banning Hub & Warning

RednaxelaNnamtra · Jun 1, 2021

tabzer said:
Is there evidence that incognito doesn't do it's job and still leads to bans, or is it speculation?

There are situations that willl probably lead to a ban with incognito. For example going online with a console that used incognito in the past, since there are likely logs created containing an invalid serial number.
Its also possible, that the original serial number is already written to a log or system savefile before applying incodnito, resulting in possibly sending logs to nintendo with an invalid and valid serial number, which could be detected by nintendo. Also future changes in system modules might use these possible leftovers (if they exist) in the future, to detect incognito switches. It would probably be detected fast, but could still result in a ban if not carefull.
It practice this doesn't seem to be a big problem, so unless people fuck up, it will probably not lead to a ban.
But since I only use homebrew and and system modules, I never used an emunand or incognito myself and just go online while in cfw, so I can only releay what I learned about the system by reading and folling the scenes and specifically the atmosphere devs.

Ynovan · Jun 4, 2021

I recently updated the console via OTA, we know that blew fuses, that means that I have to redo a backup with the current firmware of my sysNAND in case I want to restore it, because if not, the console would not start the system if I restore the backup with older firmware, right?
Anyway, is there a ban risk when restoring a clean NAND? Thank you.

wownmnpare · Jun 5, 2021

Ynovan said:
Anyway, is there a ban risk when restoring a clean NAND? Thank you.

everything is always has a risk

tabzer · Jun 5, 2021

Ynovan said:
I recently updated the console via OTA, we know that blew fuses, that means that I have to redo a backup with the current firmware of my sysNAND in case I want to restore it, because if not, the console would not start the system if I restore the backup with older firmware, right?
Anyway, is there a ban risk when restoring a clean NAND? Thank you.

If you use your current NAND to go online after making a backup, it makes the backup useless for future restoration. Reason being is that Nintendo syncs logs with your NAND, and if they are mismatched due to inconsistency caused by restoring an earlier backup copy, your console will be flagged.

Ynovan · Jun 5, 2021

tabzer said:
If you use your current NAND to go online after making a backup, it makes the backup useless for future restoration. Reason being is that Nintendo syncs logs with your NAND, and if they are mismatched due to inconsistency caused by restoring an earlier backup copy, your console will be flagged.

shoot, does that mean I already ran out of backup to restore safely?

tabzer · Jun 5, 2021

Ynovan said:
shoot, does that mean I already ran out of backup to restore safely?

If you use sysNAND for legit use (non CFW and online), then you would normally never restore your backup to NAND.

However, you would use the backups that you make in recreating a emuMMC/emuNAND partition. I would advise that when you create your backups, to first disable your wifi within the system before backing it up. That way, if/when you restore your backup to the emu-partition, you reduce your chances of accidently connecting to the internet before you are able to do something like incognito and/or 90DNS.

Another alternative, is to just update your CFW using daybreak and then backing that up.

kutszr · Jun 10, 2021

Can you use the eShop on the Switch? Y
If you cannot access the eShop, when was the last time/date you were able to?
Did you restore a clean hack-free NAND before going online? N (clean sysnand)
Do you get the error code 2181-4008 trying to update your games? N
Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware? N
Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? Y
SX OS used? N
Did you make an SX OS EmuNAND with a clean hack-free NAND then stay offline with it? N
Trimmed .XCI? N
Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? N
Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? N
Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)? N
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? N
What do you use Non-SX OS LayeredFS for? N
Did you connect to the Internet with a non-SX OS LayeredFS Inject? N
Played online w/ Non-SX OS Layered FS Injects? N
Did you inject an .XCI certificate using LayeredFS to play online? N
Used DevMenu? N
Installed any .NSP? Y
Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? Y
Did you play any .NSP installed online? N
Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? N
Did you update your .XCI/.NSP games online? N
Did you ever use ReiNX? N
Homebrew/non-SX CFW Used? Y Atmosphère 19.0.2
Connect to Internet with homebrew/non-SX OS CFW? Y
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? N
AutoRCM? N
Did you update your firmware using ChoiDujour or ChoiDujourNX? Y
Did you install the exFAT update offline? N
receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? Y
Do you have eclct disabled (look for pm.kip under sysmodules/modules)? N
Do you have creport enabled (look for a folder named 0100000000000036 under titles)? N
What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? N
Wi-Fi settings deleted in CFW? N
Console/Account Region(s) South America/Brazil
What device(s) do you use to send payloads with? PC/TegraRcmGUI
Do you enter RCM by bridging pins 9 & 10 together? Y (jig used)

HBubli · Jun 24, 2021

If I make an emunand and use it offline and blank the Serial is the chance of a ban still high? And what does it mean that bridging connector 10 and 1 causes the joycon to malfunction? Do they mean if you accendantly break the connection or what?

Draxzelex · Jun 24, 2021

HBubli said:
If I make an emunand and use it offline and blank the Serial is the chance of a ban still high? And what does it mean that bridging connector 10 and 1 causes the joycon to malfunction? Do they mean if you accendantly break the connection or what?

You cannot get banned if you never go online after using CFW/homebrew. That is to say if you perform all CFW and homebrew in emuMMC but never go online with emuMMC, then it is impossible to be banned. Therefore it is also unnecessary to blank your serial number. As for malfunctions being caused by bridging pins 1 & 10 together, I have never heard of such a thing.

HBubli · Jun 24, 2021

Draxzelex said:
You cannot get banned if you never go online after using CFW/homebrew. That is to say if you perform all CFW and homebrew in emuMMC but never go online with emuMMC, then it is impossible to be banned. Therefore it is also unnecessary to blank your serial number. As for malfunctions being caused by bridging pins 1 & 10 together, I have never heard of such a thing.

Ok thank you. I was really scared because I often use the online features of the switch.

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Draxzelex said:
You cannot get banned if you never go online after using CFW/homebrew. That is to say if you perform all CFW and homebrew in emuMMC but never go online with emuMMC, then it is impossible to be banned. Therefore it is also unnecessary to blank your serial number. As for malfunctions being caused by bridging pins 1 & 10 together, I have never heard of such a thing.

And one last thing, 90DNS will do the trick too right?

Draxzelex · Jun 24, 2021

HBubli said:
And one last thing, 90DNS will do the trick too right?

90DNS accomplishes the same thing as blanking your serial. Meaning, it doesn't actually prevent a ban but just makes it impossible to go online while its enabled so it is equally unnecessary.

HBubli · Jun 24, 2021

Draxzelex said:
90DNS accomplishes the same thing as blanking your serial. Meaning, it doesn't actually prevent a ban but just makes it impossible to go online while its enabled so it is equally unnecessary.

Sorry I didn't really say it correctly, I meant does it do the same thing as turning off the internet? Cause I still wanna use homebrew that uses internet.

Draxzelex · Jun 24, 2021

HBubli said:
Sorry I didn't really say it correctly, I meant does it do the same thing as turning off the internet? Cause I still wanna use homebrew that uses internet.

If its for the purpose of using homebrew that requires Internet without connecting to Nintendo's servers, then yes it will do that just like blanking your serial number.

HBubli · Jun 24, 2021

Draxzelex said:
If its for the purpose of using homebrew that requires Internet without connecting to Nintendo's servers, then yes it will do that just like blanking your serial number.

Ok, thank you very much for helping me! Ima mod my switch without being worried lol.

pcwizard7 · Jul 15, 2021

How many times can you change the primary console? Is it unlimited on console and once a year from the website, please confirm?
Also, can this lead to ban?

Thanks

The_Chaotician · Jul 15, 2021

My OG Switch was banned about a month ago. I pleaded ignorance with the Big N and insisted i be provided with a reason for the ban.

I was told an unsolictied ROM was detected on my console, even though i had started my CFW with a factory reset SysNAND. I have a hunch that a game save of the reverse engineered SM64 port was uploaded to my cloud saves by mistake.

This switch was otherwise happy running CFW since launch, and the ban only came about since the introduction of cloud save functionality.

I have since softmodded a second OG Switch with cloud saves turned off and had no problems.

Draxzelex · Jul 15, 2021

pcwizard7 said:
How many times can you change the primary console? Is it unlimited on console and once a year from the website, please confirm?
Also, can this lead to ban?

Thanks

Yes and yes to your first 2 questions. As for your third question, the inherent act of changing primary consoles doesn't affect or require CFW so I do not see how that would incur a ban. Bans are traditionally applied to consoles that are hacked, not accounts. As long as the console doesn't run CFW or homebrew, it should not be banned.

The_Chaotician said:
My OG Switch was banned about a month ago. I pleaded ignorance with the Big N and insisted i be provided with a reason for the ban.

I was told an unsolictied ROM was detected on my console, even though i had started my CFW with a factory reset SysNAND. I have a hunch that a game save of the reverse engineered SM64 port was uploaded to my cloud saves by mistake.

This switch was otherwise happy running CFW since launch, and the ban only came about since the introduction of cloud save functionality.

I have since softmodded a second OG Switch with cloud saves turned off and had no problems.

Well if you fill out the form in the first post, we might have a better understanding of why you were banned. You should also know that factory resets do not prevent bans as people have been banned in the past before even after performing one. Do you really believe Nintendo would implement an anti-ban feature in their device?

The_Chaotician · Jul 15, 2021

Draxzelex said:
Well if you fill out the form in the first post, we might have a better understanding of why you were banned. You should also know that factory resets do not prevent bans as people have been banned in the past before even after performing one. Do you really believe Nintendo would implement an anti-ban feature in their device?

You have misunderstood me. The first time I softmodded the console, the emunand was based on a dirty sysnand. This didn’t make any difference at all (as you say) and the ban only happened once cloud save functionality was implemented.

I wasn’t attempting to overturn it as I know that isn’t possible. But wanted to see if Nintendo were willing to give me a reason why the ban was issued and they did.

As I said, this console has been running CFW in some form or another since it has been available (around 4 years) and I have been using an NSO subscription on a clean sysnand the entire time.

The only thing that has changed in terms of data sent to Nintendo servers in those 4 years is the cloud save feature. I believe that is how Nintendo were able to identify an unofficial Rom on my console.

Edit: not looking to understand why I was banned because I’m fairly sure I know the reason why. Either way it’s a non issue as I have replaced my console anyway. Was more to provide extra info if it hadn’t already been covered in this thread

pcwizard7 · Jul 15, 2021

Draxzelex said:
Yes and yes to your first 2 questions. As for your third question, the inherent act of changing primary consoles doesn't affect or require CFW so I do not see how that would incur a ban. Bans are traditionally applied to consoles that are hacked, not accounts. As long as the console doesn't run CFW or homebrew, it should not be banned.

Wouldn't they be concern with constant changes ?

I'm thinking about this because when I go out I might bring the switch Lite and sometimes maybe the Switch OLED

Draxzelex · Jul 15, 2021

pcwizard7 said:
Wouldn't they be concern with constant changes ?

I'm thinking about this because when I go out I might bring the switch Lite and sometimes maybe the Switch OLED

Concerned? Maybe but there are also millions upon millions of Switch consoles in the wild so keeping track of them would be no easy feat. Furthermore, they purposely made it unlimited so they must be comfortable to some extent with people constantly changing the Primary console. Its also something they don't really need to change themselves as the process is done entirely from the console so they may not even be aware people are doing it. Lastly, there is nothing in the Terms of Service that says it cannot be performed an exorbitant amount of times.

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