Five Nights At Freddy's creator, Scott Cawthon, has retired from game development

Magnus87 · Jun 21, 2021

You don't have to like Trump any more than I have to like Biden, that's how a democracy works. Candidates present themselves and each of us will support whoever seems best for the role.

You have to separate the developer from the person, they don't always go together.
If you told me that Scott as a developer imposed an LGBT hate agenda on FNAF I would reply "Let's not buy games from this guy"

However, that is not the situation, Scott is like any other and since he lives in a democracy he can choose the party that he believes will improve the country's situation even more.

I do not support any aggression from either side.

WG481 · Jun 21, 2021

I love democracy...

...and burritos for that matter.

Tigran · Jun 21, 2021

I just want to point out.. Scott Cawthon couldn't have been doxxed.

His address is public record and can be found in the white pages.

(not saying I agree with Doxxing,)

Deleted member 559230 · Jun 21, 2021

WiiMiiSwitch said:
Actually, let me tell you something
Trump supports the LGBQ community, just not the t part of it. He doesn't mind gays, just transgenders. Which is very rude of him

Trump doesn't have a dislike for transgendered people he just doesn't bow and obey to whatever happens to be popular in various online circles this week. Just because you're not straight doesn't give you more rights than other people nor does it give you a pass to do whatever you want when you want. Clear evidence of how nasty the LGBTQ community can be is happening before our eyes. I know I won't get brownie points for speaking negatively about a coveted group, but that's where the lack of your (the readers) tolerance comes into play.

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Tigran said:
I just want to point out.. Scott Cawthon couldn't have been doxxed.

His address is public record and can be found in the white pages.

(not saying I agree with Doxxing,)

It's still possible to doxx someone even if their information can be found via other means.

Tigran · Jun 21, 2021

Dude.. you don't even known what an effing pronoun is.

Lacius · Jun 21, 2021

WiiMiiSwitch said:
Actually, let me tell you something
Trump supports the LGBQ community, just not the t part of it. He doesn't mind gays, just transgenders. Which is very rude of him

Trump does not support any part of the LGBT community. You might be able to find some comments here and there about how he supports the LGBT community, but actions speak louder than words. At every chance he had, he did what he could to strip rights away from the LGBT community. They spent years ignoring Pride Month. As soon as the former president was sworn in, LGBT resource pages on the White House website were removed. They tried to remove LGBT questions from the census in order to erase LGBT people. They tried to remove LGBT people from the equal employment policies at the commerce department. They banned trans people from the military for no reason other than to be anti-LGBT. They ordered the Department of Education to remove anti-discrimination policies relating to LGBT people. They explicitly said they'd reject civil rights complaints at the Department of Education relating to LGBT issues. They gave federal funds to private schools that explicitly discriminate against LGBT people. They removed healthcare protections for LGBT people, effectively making it so anyone could refuse health care to anybody who is LGBT, for any reason. They established an office within HHS to specifically defend people who refused medical care to LGBT people. They granted federal funds to foster programs that discriminated against LGBT people. They engaged in an outright effort to specifically erase trans people from all existing protections and acknowledgements online. They ordered the CDC to stop using words like "transgender." They created a rule to stop doing data collection on LGBT foster youth, creating significant impediments to helping them, all for no reason but to cause harm. They ordered the removal of questions relating to LGBT people from forms belonging to programs that help the elderly and disabled, hindering the ability to help those people's specific needs as well. They ordered the removal of anti-discrimination policies relating to LGBT people from HUD. They ordered HUD to permit shelters to deny entry to trans people. They ordered the cancellation of HUD surveys relating to LGBT needs. They ordered the Justice Department to argue in court against anti-LGBT discrimination. They rolled back previously existing protections for LGBT people in prisons. They rolled back anti-discrimination policies affecting LGBT federal contractors. They ordered the denial of visas to same-sex partners of diplomats. They ordered a rule change so that a child born of a same-sex couple born overseas via a surrogate wouldn't be eligible for US citizenship. They removed the US from the UN Human Rights Council with one of the main reasons being because of LGBT issues (they were friendly to LGBT people and LGBT issues). They refused to sign a statement condemning physical attacks against LGBT people overseas. They ordered the removal of a pro-LGBT program in the 4H program, hurting LGBT children. They've nominated numerous justices, including ones even controversial among the Republican Party, who are vehemently anti-LGBT. Under their policies, ICE as specifically mistreated LGBT inmates in their custody. They did and said nothing relating to anti-trans violence and murders in this country.

I try to remember that the amount of ignorance needed to make a statement like "the former president was actually pro-gay" comes from a place of privilege, not a place of malice, but it was incredibly offensive.

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Magnus87 said:
You don't have to like Trump any more than I have to like Biden, that's how a democracy works. Candidates present themselves and each of us will support whoever seems best for the role.

You have to separate the developer from the person, they don't always go together.
If you told me that Scott as a developer imposed an LGBT hate agenda on FNAF I would reply "Let's not buy games from this guy"

However, that is not the situation, Scott is like any other and since he lives in a democracy he can choose the party that he believes will improve the country's situation even more.

I do not support any aggression from either side.

Scott has the legal right to give money to conservative candidates. His fans have the right to condemn his actions and refrain from giving him money that he can turn around and give to politicians working against their interests. If you're condemning one of these things but not the other, it's hypocritical, and it probably says a lot more about your character than you want it to.

BitMasterPlus · Jun 21, 2021

https://www.facebook.com/GaysForTrumpOrg

Just gonna put this here....

Deleted member 546149 · Jun 21, 2021

I wonder if Scott's replacement is better

DuoForce · Jun 21, 2021

Jayro said:
He was actively funding the Republican party with tens of thousands of dollars, of which the Republican party hates the LGBTQ+ community, which is what most of Scott's fanbase is. That's a direct attack on his fanbase. They're completely in the right to cancel his ass.

Donating actual money to the republican party is a complete waste of money

Deleted member 546149 · Jun 21, 2021

DuoForce said:
Donating actual money to the republican party is a complete waste of money

When you're rich
Its free

DuoForce · Jun 21, 2021

hippy dave said:
"People may lose their fundamental human rights but at least the dollar will go up a bit"

Republican party is centered around money not people

Lacius · Jun 21, 2021

BitMasterPlus said:
https://www.facebook.com/GaysForTrumpOrg

Just gonna put this here....

There are always going to be members of the LGBT community who don't support their own interests. They're a minority, and their political affiliation doesn't change anything I said above about how the former administration was demonstrably bad for LGBT people.

In reality, only about 30% of LGBT people who voted in 2020 voted for the former president.

BitMasterPlus · Jun 21, 2021

DuoForce said:
Republican party is centered around money not people

Just like the democrats, just add control and power with it too.

Lacius said:
There are always going to be members of the LGBT community who don't support their own interests. They're a minority, and their political affiliation doesn't change anything I said above about how the former administration was demonstrably bad for LGBT people.

In reality, only about 30% of LGBT people who voted in 2020 voted for the former president.

Who are you to dictate the interests of a group of people? Just because they don't go with your definition of what you think is the norm doesn't mean they don't matter.

Lacius · Jun 21, 2021

BitMasterPlus said:
Who are you to dictate the interests of a group of people?

Whether or not a policy is conducive to the well-being of a group of people is objective and demonstrable. It's not a matter of opinion.

BitMasterPlus said:
Just because they don't go with your definition of what you think is the norm doesn't mean they don't matter.

The vote of a person who identifies as LGBT for a candidate like the former president is deplorable, regardless of whether or not they are a member of the LGBT community.

You can read my post above for a bunch of the ways the former president shit on LGBT people in deplorable ways.

BitMasterPlus · Jun 21, 2021

Lacius said:
Whether or not a policy is conducive to the well-being of a group of people is objective and demonstrable. It's not a matter of opinion.

The vote of a person who identifies as LGBT for a candidate like the former president is deplorable, regardless of whether or not they are a member of the LGBT community.

You can read my post above for a bunch of the ways the former president shit on LGBT people in deplorable ways.

Okay, I'll take your word for it because you decide what a person should believe in depending on who they are regardless of what an individual thinks, if they want to be something but still be their own person and have their own different opinion and views. You're the grandmaster who gets to decide what's right and wrong.

Dude, get over yourself.

VartioArtel · Jun 21, 2021

Seriously what's the most pathetic thing in this topic is the intolerant left. Because he voted trump he's an evil person by association of the republican party? My god people, and you wonder why so many people dislike the further-left democrats. You guys are the definition of intolerant.

The Republicans aren't gonna kill LGBTQ+ or strip them of their jobs if they win a presidential election (edit: Hell, they didn't really do that at all from all 4 years of Trump running the show!), yet even before the Republicans were out of office you Democrats wanted to take away every Republican minded person's job in the world and half of you all seem to wish them dead! You guys are freaking atrocious human beings, even in comparison to the very Republicans you hate.

**Note**: I am unaffiliated with any party officially, both sides are full of radical looneys, for lack of a better word that don't get hyper offensive. So don't even try to twist this on me. The Republicans are definitely a cult under Trump's stupid personality and many don't realize the damage they DO cause, and the more extreme Democrats are so stuck in their self-righteous dogma I would swear that lot should make their own god damn religion.

Lacius · Jun 21, 2021

BitMasterPlus said:
Okay, I'll take your word for it because you decide what a person should believe in depending on who they are regardless of what an individual thinks, if they want to be something but still be their own person and have their own different opinion and views. You're the grandmaster who gets to decide what's right and wrong.

Dude, get over yourself.

What I think about what's right or wrong is irrelevant. However, we can objectively measure harm and well-being. If a person wants to say slavery, for example, should be legal like it was before the American Civil War, that would be a deplorable position. The same goes for positions that are anti-LGBT, for example.

Everyone has a right to their opinions, but not all opinions are created equal. Expressing those opinions, or giving money to politicians who act on those positions, are things people have a right to do, but it doesn't mean people have a right to these things free from criticism, boycotts, etc.

When a person acts like I'm suggesting I'm a god who is all-knowing, instead of actually responding to my points, it usually means a substantive rebuttal doesn't exist.

AHB · Jun 21, 2021

Burorī said:
All of this because of some wack-ass politics ruining everything for everyone yet again.
Let the man live his life and stop riding that much dick you attention-seeking boring life having ass bitches

DuoForce said:
Republican party is centered around money not people

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BitMasterPlus · Jun 21, 2021

Lacius said:
What I think about what's right or wrong is irrelevant. However, we can objectively measure harm and well-being. If a person wants to say slavery, for example, should be legal like it was before the American Civil War, that would be a deplorable position. The same goes for positions that are anti-LGBT, for example.

Everyone has a right to their opinions, but not all opinions are created equal. Expressing those opinions, or giving money to politicians who act on those positions, are things people have a right to do, but it doesn't mean people have a right to these things free from criticism, boycotts, etc.

When a person acts like I'm suggesting I'm a god who is all-knowing, instead of actually responding to my points, it usually means a substantive rebuttal doesn't exist.

I'm not really required to respond to your BS points if I don't want to. This isn't a serious debate stage. If it were then yes, you'd have a point, but this is just a forum thread on the internet on a small website and most people responding here are acting like babies. But you do act like you're all knowing. I've seen enough posts to see what a pompous person you are, acting like your way is the right way and all that.

I've had many debates with libs across the interwebs, and seen debates with them, and I gotta tell you, it'd be a better use of time talking to a brick wall than trying to converse with these people.

Xzi · Jun 21, 2021

Hot take: I never cared for the FNAF games. Slideshows aren't great from a gameplay perspective. I'm gonna go ahead and say nothing of value was lost.

Five Nights At Freddy's creator, Scott Cawthon, has retired from game development

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