Five Nights At Freddy's creator, Scott Cawthon, has retired from game development

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This is why our world is broken, political differences being treated as if it's extremely offensive
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This shit, and homophobia, etc, is not "a valid political position", it is "hate and bigotry that destroys lives" - learn the difference.
 

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Alright looking back, I'm not holding Scott for doing anything wrong
Fun Fact: Did You know Biden dissed gays in 2008?

Biden also said if you don't vote for him you aren't black
However, Trump has also said racist stuff in the past
Both are bad, you just have to choose the slightly better one
 

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I am pretty sure his games after after the 3rd game were just being made to fuck with Matt Patt. I honestly didn’t follow any of his personal life nor even his games past the first FNFA. I literally don’t care about him retiring nor am I personally invested in whatever stupid political stance he has.
 
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Alright looking back, I'm not holding Scott for doing anything wrong
Fun Fact: Did You know Biden dissed gays in 2008?

Biden also said if you don't vote for him you aren't black
However, Trump has also said racist stuff in the past
Both are bad, you just have to choose the slightly better one

This isn't quite right. The Republicans wanted to make a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, so a hypothetical Supreme Court in the future couldn't, for example, make a ruling that same-sex marriage bans are unconstitutional. Joe Biden was saying that it was already federal law that same-sex marriage couldn't be recognized by the federal government, and states didn't have to recognize same-sex marriage from another state. In other words, he was rightfully acknowledging that the talk of a constitutional amendment was anti-gay fear-mongering and nothing more. The entire interview was him explaining why we should NOT have an anti-gay amendment.

Joe Biden did not come out in favor of same-sex marriage until around 2012, but he didn't have a history of saying or doing anything explicitly anti-gay before that. To his credit, he also changed his mind on the topic, and any positions he had in the past against marriage equality are in the past.

This is not a case of "both sides are equal." It's not even close.
 
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This isn't quite right. The Republicans wanted to make a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, so a hypothetical Supreme Court in the future couldn't, for example, make a ruling that same-sex marriage bans are unconstitutional. Joe Biden was saying that it was already federal law that same-sex marriage couldn't be recognized by the federal government, and states didn't have to recognize same-sex marriage from another state. In other words, he was rightfully acknowledging that the talk of a constitutional amendment was anti-gay fear-mongering and nothing more. The entire interview was him explaining why we should NOT have an anti-gay amendment.

Joe Biden did not come out in favor of same-sex marriage until around 2012, but he didn't have a history of saying or doing anything explicitly anti-gay before that. To his credit, he also changed his mind on the topic, and any positions he had in the past against marriage equality are in the past.

This is not a case of "both sides are equal." It's not even close.
Yeah but we have to admit that they've both said bad things. I feel like Biden is a masked demon, and Trump is an honest demon, and Hawkins is a Devil Incarnation. I don't really pay attention to politics but I know Trump said "Grab them by the *****" and Biden said "You ain't black", just both candidates are sad and miserable
 

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Yeah but we have to admit that they've both said bad things. I feel like Biden is a masked demon, and Trump is an honest demon, and Hawkins is a Devil Incarnation. I don't really pay attention to politics but I know Trump said "Grab them by the *****" and Biden said "You ain't black", just both candidates are sad and miserable
I'm not arguing that anybody is perfect or infallible, but your claim that Biden is a "masked demon" and is at all comparable to the former president demonstrates your other claim that you don't really pay attention to politics. Only one candidate was anti-gay, anti-trans, anti-Black, anti-woman, anti-science, anti-healthcare, anti-climate, anti-immigrant, anti-family, anti-child, and anti-democracy, and it wasn't Joe Biden.
 

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Our world is broken in part because overt bigotry and prejudice are treated as mere political differences.
Our world isn't broken, this is a cycle that has existed since humans have. A group people will always repress another group of people, and the pendulum will always swing back at some point. If you want a chance to break the cycle, you can't meet hatred with hatred.

All of this hatred came from unfair treatment, and not letting people live the lives they want to live. You're literally doing the same deplorable thing you're accusing them of. You are oppressing, you are suppressing, you are telling people they shouldn't be themselves, and worst you are meeting inaction with action. Scott donated money for an undisclosed reason, he didn't punch someone, he didn't lynch someone, he did threaten someone.

If you want people to just let you live your life, you need to offer the same courtesy to them. If you want people to accept you, you need to accept them.
 

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I'm not arguing that anybody is perfect or infallible, but your claim that Biden is a "masked demon" and is at all comparable to the former president demonstrates your other claim that you don't really pay attention to politics. Only one candidate was anti-gay, anti-trans, anti-Black, anti-woman, anti-science, anti-healthcare, anti-climate, anti-immigrant, anti-family, anti-child, and anti-democracy, and it wasn't Joe Biden.

I'm not arguing that anybody is perfect or infallible, but your claim that Biden is a "masked demon" and is at all comparable to the former president demonstrates your other claim that you don't really pay attention to politics. Only one candidate was anti-gay, anti-trans, anti-Black, anti-woman, anti-science, anti-healthcare, anti-climate, anti-immigrant, anti-family, anti-child, and anti-democracy, and it wasn't Joe Biden.
Yeah, maybe he's better then Trump
But he isn't my political that's for sure
 

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Yeah, maybe he's better then Trump
But he isn't my political that's for sure
To be fair, literally a dead a raccoon on the side of the road is better than Trump. It’s not a real accomplishment to be better than Trump. Although, I am actually glad to not be waking up every morning to finding out Trump tweeted something stupid and now my rights to live in peace are threatened or something insane Trump tweeted at 3 AM instead of sleeping.
 

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Our world isn't broken, this is a cycle that has existed since humans have. A group people will always repress another group of people, and the pendulum will always swing back at some point. If you want a chance to break the cycle, you can't meet hatred with hatred.
First, whether or not our world can be described as "broken" is subjective. For some, it absolutely feels broken. There are significant and systemic issues that plague marginalized communities, for starters. Second, I didn't explicitly call the world broken; I was responding to someone else's comment. Third, I haven't responded with hate.

All of this hatred came from unfair treatment, and not letting people live the lives they want to live. You're literally doing the same deplorable thing you're accusing them of. You are oppressing, you are suppressing, you are telling people they shouldn't be themselves, and worst you are meeting inaction with action. Scott donated money for an undisclosed reason, he didn't punch someone, he didn't lynch someone, he did threaten someone.

If you want people to just let you live your life, you need to offer the same courtesy to them. If you want people to accept you, you need to accept them.
I never once said someone shouldn't live how they want to live. Any decency flies out the window, however, when a person goes farther and donates money to a politician who actively enacts policies taking rights away from people. My rightful condemnations of financially supporting deplorable candidates is not at all comparable to supporting prejudicial and hateful policies. In other words, I'm all for letting people live how they want to live, but that doesn't mean I have to ignore deplorable behavior or that I'm obligated to patronize deplorable people by spending my money on their games. Respectfully, it's idiotic to suggest I should ignore deplorable behavior and give them my money anyway. I'm not arguing someone doesn't have a right to give money to politicians and live freely, but deplorable behavior isn't free from criticism, boycotts, etc.

It's not oppression to say "you're giving money to deplorable candidates" and refuse to spend my money on that person's video games. Oppression can be found in one of the many policy positions of the former president that I've listed several times. I recommend you learn the difference.

Tolerating LGBT people isn't the same as tolerating anti-LGBT policies and the stripping of civil liberties. I suggest you learn that difference as well.
 
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In this thread only i see two party politics: Democrats and Republicans. Why your system only have two party? Why your system dont give more options? Because i see you have two choices and your solution for the next presidential election its to choose the less shity devil of the two option. In México we see the Republican party a bad party political with bad news every day went Trump was in charge.We dont remember any good traits or benefits for that party.
 
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Yeah, maybe he's better then Trump
But he isn't my political that's for sure
In the Democratic Primary elections, Joe Biden wasn't my first choice (or second, or third), but he and I are roughly 85% in alignment when it comes to policy positions, he seems to be a good guy who has never once tried to dismantle American democracy, he's competent, and he is not a corrupt buffoon like the former president. The contrast between Biden and the former president is night and day, and anybody who gave money to the former president's campaign knew what they were doing, and it was deplorable behavior. While there should be no legal consequences to giving money to the former president, there can and should be societal ones. If your fan base is upset because, for example, what you did was anti-LGBT, that's on you.

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In this thread only i see two party politics: Democrats and Republicans. Why your system only have two party? Why dont have more options? Because i see dont have choices and your solution for the next presidential election its to choose the less shity devil of the two option. In México we see the Republican party a bad party political with bad news every day went Trump was in charge.We dont remember any good traits or benefit for that party.
We do have more than two political parties, but because each party is so diverse, there isn't more room ideologically for more than three (anything more than Democratic, Republican, and Libertarian pretty much overlaps with one of the aforementioned parties), and a large percentage of this country identifies with one of the major two parties (Democratic or Republican). The system is also structured in a way that a vote for a third party is essentially a vote that's thrown into the trash. If we had something like ranked voting or multi-round voting, third party candidates wouldn't be treated as spoilers, and people could potentially vote for them without feeling like they've wasted their votes.
 

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I don't believe in God/Jesus. That being said, I don't necessarily disagree with the idea that one should be against an act, not a person. Being against the act of giving campaign contributions to the former president, and not the person who did it, doesn't mean we should forget about it, move on, and continue to buy Scott's games/merchandise all so he can turn around and use that money to the same thing. His actions should still be condemned, and it's perfectly reasonable to not want to buy his stuff anymore.
that's more or less how it works. you are supportive of the person in a way that doesn't challenge your beliefs all while being against the things that they did. so I wouldn't buy his games because he hasn't shown me he won't take that money to further his ideology on others. cause he is indeed christian and believes in God. It's fine if you don't but he does and the hypocrisy he is known for is not welcome if he actually took time to read the bible or learned from Jesus' teachings
 

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