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Remember when certain people here say it was a conspiracy lol

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1396594501293072385

And then he quotes the NY Post, one of the most discredited papers of all time. [rollseyes]

The six other major novel coronvirus outbreaks in human history we are aware of clearly did not start in a lab. Only a blithering idiot would suggest without even a slight bit of evidence that this one did. You need to get a grip on reality... and to start reading reliable sources of news. Start with the paper of record, the New York Times.

lol indeed
 

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I would call it the CCP Virus because that gov mishandled alot of things

What ticks me off about China is the fact they decided to hide the virus from the world knowing damn well it could spread and also how the CCP run media deceived the citizens of China and claimed that the US Army infected Wuhan. If it turns out the virus was man made then I think some more and extreme sanctions should befall China. As for the virus origins I'll leave that up to the experts and wait for their results.
 

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What ticks me off about China is the fact they decided to hide the virus from the world knowing damn well it could spread and also how the CCP run media deceived the citizens of China and claimed that the US Army infected Wuhan. If it turns out the virus was man made then I think some more and extreme sanctions should befall China. As for the virus origins I'll leave that up to the experts and wait for their results.
The CCP is to blame for alot of their problems and the Chinese citizens are just innocent victims.

They kept on trying to silence any information of covid, jailing people then spread lots of misinformation to confuse people.
 

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What ticks me off about China is the fact they decided to hide the virus from the world knowing damn well it could spread and also how the CCP run media deceived the citizens of China and claimed that the US Army infected Wuhan. If it turns out the virus was man made then I think some more and extreme sanctions should befall China. As for the virus origins I'll leave that up to the experts and wait for their results.
That's common for CCP to blame the U.S.


They always put out propaganda. For everything. I do not believe anything the CCP says or does.


It's just like the Uyghur situation over there. They capture them, then throw them into concentrations camps for re-education and slave labor. And force them tonwork in cotton fields.


Then the CCP puts out alot of propaganda ads targeting the U.S and foreigners trying to shift blame. And also put out misinformation campaigns trying to confuse westerners that everything is OK over there.

They like to shift blame to the U S. for alot of their own problems that was created by the CCP. And they also even put out CCP sponsored propaganda tik-tok videos and cringy propaganda rap songs to try to convince people that everything is A-OK over there, and that they aren't forcing Uyghur into slave labor. They did the same thing with covid to confuse people on what's really going on over there. It's bad.


This CCP sponsored rap song, one of many propaganda things they put out, trying to convince people that they aren't forcing Uyghurs into slave labor.

 
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I remember seeing reports of burning corpses outside of Wuhan Nov '19 and remember thinking "gee that must be just another Tuesday in China, hope they get that virus under control lol"
Then more reports about cases spreading south into Mongolia and on and on... Ugh
 

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I remember seeing reports of burning corpses outside of Wuhan Nov '19 and remember thinking "gee that must be just another Tuesday in China, hope they get that virus under control lol"
Then more reports about cases spreading south into Mongolia and on and on... Ugh
By the time China even knew what they were dealing with, the virus had probably already spread to a quarter of all countries. And it certainly didn't help that they kept that information to themselves for a bit, but that still doesn't excuse the failures of other world leaders to minimize damage to their own peoples.
 

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nice argument, however i had intimate sexual relations with both of your parents last night
i have copulated with multiple potential members of your parentage between the hours of the most recent dusk and dawn; being that you are not aware of your paternal icon's identity due to your matriarch's propensity for having a societally unseemly amount of sexual encounters in rapid succession and a constant fashion
i did this for the express purpose of ensuring i correctly identified the genuine parental article's rear orifice; for i, also, am unaware of their true personage, due to the magnitude of the range of candidates
 
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i have copulated with multiple potential members of your parentage between the hours of the most recent dusk and dawn; being that you are not aware of your paternal icon's identity due to your matriarch's propensity for having a societally unseemly amount of sexual encounters in rapid succession and a constant fashion
i did this for the express purpose of ensuring i correctly identified the genuine parental article's rear orifice; for i, also, am unaware of their true personage, due to the magnitude of the range of candidates
 

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What ticks me off about China is the fact they decided to hide the virus from the world knowing damn well it could spread and also how the CCP run media deceived the citizens of China and claimed that the US Army infected Wuhan. If it turns out the virus was man made then I think some more and extreme sanctions should befall China. As for the virus origins I'll leave that up to the experts and wait for their results.
really ridiculous argument US, Trump, and Israel knew about it just as long as the CCP
as you can see here
https://twitter.com/hashtag/israelinnovember

In fact all UN member states governments knew about it because they all signed on to its release under economic agreement from the World Economic Forum, ,World Banks and IMF
see event 201 and the great reset world economic forum.

the evidence of foreknowledge if right out in the open just like it always is

I have my own anecdotal experience too, I have someone in my family who was warned in October 2019
they used to work for Goldman Sachs but now work for UBS , they make 7 figures
and have a place in NY and have some extremely high profile celebrity neighbors as well as other properties

they got some kind of a tip off and were all prepped for this in October of 2019
They were already all stocked up on TP and shelf stable food in October
 
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really ridiculous argument US, Trump, and Israel knew about it just as long as the CCP
as you can see here
https://twitter.com/hashtag/israelinnovember

In fact all UN member states governments knew about it because they all signed on to its release under economic agreement from the World Economic Forum, ,World Banks and IMF
see event 201 and the great reset world economic forum.

the evidence of foreknowledge if right out in the open just like it always is

I have my own anecdotal experience too, I have someone in my family who was warned in October 2019
they used to work for Goldman Sachs but now work for UBS , they make 7 figures
and have a place in NY and have some extremely high profile celebrity neighbors as well as other properties

they got some kind of a tip off and were all prepped for this in October of 2019
They were already all stocked up on TP and shelf stable food in October

No it's not a really ridiculous argument. What's a really ridiculous argument is believing what a bunch of random people on Twitter have to say about it. However, even if China did let a select few know about the virus back in October 2019 they still didn't tell most of the world for a month or so. When applied common sense would dictate that you know I wasn't talking in absolutes, and even if you're a tad bit slow my revised statement stands - China hid COVID from most of the world for over a month.
 
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China hid COVID from most of the world for over a month.

"China" didn't, the chinese government tried to keep a lid on it,

“There was an early cover up in Wuhan, perhaps a few days to a week, before the threat was accepted. We will never know if faster action in those first days could have averted the outbreak,” said Ian Jones, professor of biomedical sciences at Reading University.

this is not something unique to the CPC, Trump tried to pretend it was just like the flu for a long time.

Three people sick in november 2019 is not something that any government would flag up to the rest of the world. The news might not even have made it to the government before the wuhan outbreak.
 
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More news relating to the Stewart video.

Washington Post columnist knocks Jon Stewart for pushing Wuhan lab-leak theory: Celebrities aren't 'experts'

'This provides an important lesson about celebrities: You shouldn’t get your political opinions from them'


- https://www.foxnews.com/media/washington-post-jon-stewart-wuhan-lab-leak-theory

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The World Health Organization is "highly compromised" and unfit to lead an investigation into the origins of COVID-19, according to former CDC head Robert Redfield.

"Clearly, they were incapable of compelling China to adhere to the treaty agreements that they have on global health, because they didn’t do that," Redfield told Fox News on Tuesday. "Clearly, they allowed China to define the group of scientists that could come and investigate. That’s not consistent with their role."

- https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...9-investigation-according-former-cdc-director
 

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"The Wall Street Journal, which cited current and former US officials, reported that the intelligence gathered by “an international partner” expands on a State Department document confirming that workers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology fell ill with symptoms “consistent with both Covid-19 and common seasonal illness” in fall 2019."

Like who is this "international partner? What is this intelligence? Can we see it for ourselves? Did they literally just have the flu and the news are just making a big deal of this because it makes money to invent China drama?

I would love to know who these three people are, where they were hospitalized, how they were treated, etc but we don't know. I'd like to know who this "international partner is", how they got this information, why they're only revealing it now, and why their identity has to be secret. I'd also like to see a direct quote from this international partner. Who are these "officials" who received the intelligence? How do all of these news sites have this information? How did it get out? Why are people claiming that the workers had Covid when we have no actual evidence that they did? Why the hell is this even news? Even if this were true, what are the implications?
Just curious, do we have any answers to these questions yet or are we just assuming the lab leak is somehow credible based on the very limited information we actually have? All of this info spawned from a single news article from the Wall Street Journal, one article. If you look for info on this, it always goes back to that one article. That seems to be basically all the info we actually have on this and every article seems to just repeat the conclusions of the aforementioned article or idly speculate on things we can't actually prove. This is some incredibly goofy shit, especially since I'm seeing people uncritically support the very same corporate media they seem to want to complain about every other day.

This seems just like more hubbub about nothing designed to manufacture consent against China in order to justify whatever conflict the US government inevitably has with the CCP because the CCP is basically the only world power that threatens the US's position on the top of the capitalist totem pole.

Like I have no love whatsoever for the CCP but it is just so blatantly obvious that this is the case. Media smear campaigns like this (think about all the media hubbub in the early 2000s about Iraq WMDs that didn't even exist) are exactly the type of things that led to public support for Bush's invasion of the Middle East despite it being an objectively evil thing. Rile up the people against a foreign power that threatens the position of some rich people and once you've done it enough you suddenly have support from the majority of the (mostly) uninformed public that justifies absolutely heinous foreign policy. We did this in Iraq because rich people wanted oil and corporate control over a mostly untapped market, we're doing this again in China (now that our army is supposed to be leaving the middle east) because rich US corporations see Chinese capitalism as a threat to their profits and a threat to their position on top of the world.

Now do I think the US is gonna try to do a full-on "desert storm" style invasion of China? Probably not. I certainly hope not. But shit like this puts a foot in the door for public support of highly destructive and unnecessary cold war-esque conflict that will only end up hurting the citizens of both countries and serving the whims of the capitalist bourgeoise elite (which is always the goal of corporate media and the US government because both are owned by billionaires). The US army doesn't really have much going on right now, why not fire up the ol military-industrial complex by attacking China? That'd make a handy profit AND knock down a major competitor at the same time. It's a win-win situation! (for rich people)

Some vids on manufactured consent and what it means because I think it's very relevant to this topic and really any discussions about how corporate media works, the first vid is especially informative:

 
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China did it just like America elected Trump.

Less than half of the american population elected Trump. "America" didn't do anything.

Reducing people to a country is a way of dehumanizing them, don't trust anyone who does that.

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Like I have no love whatsoever for the CCP but it is just so blatantly obvious that this is the case.

You may be right, but you may be giving them too much credit. They could just be really inept & unable to make rational assessments.

It's like when you were a kid and dropped something by accident and it broke, you didn't want to get in trouble so you tried to clean up the mess and hide the damage, then your mum finds out about it and says that because you tried to hide it that it is evidence that you purposefully broke it & she starts blaming you for anything that ever got broken.
 
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Less than half of the american population elected Trump. "America" didn't do anything.

Reducing people to a country is a way of dehumanizing them, don't trust anyone who does that.

America definitely elected Trump. It was in the news. Are you claiming, though, that people are not responsible for their government?
 

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America definitely elected Trump. It was in the news. Are you claiming, though, that people are not responsible for their government?

No, I'm saying that America is a land mass & doesn't vote for anyone.

The American people live in America, they vote. Not all of the American people voted in the election, less than half of them voted for Trump.

So it's wrong to say that all of the American people voted for Trump.

Lumping everyone in together and then naming them after a country is derogatory. You either know it and want to be derogatory, or you don't know it. But I'm informing you, so if you continue then I'll know you're being derogatory.

China isn't really a democracy & so no, you cannot hold all of the people who live in China responsible for the government.

I wouldn't hold all of the American population responsible for Trump either as less than half of those who voted wanted him to be president. It seems rather unfair to blame someone for Trumps disastrous policies, when they didn't want him doing the job in the first place.
 
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