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Joe Biden is now officially the 46th President of the United States of America
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I'm going to ignore your attempts at flame baiting me to turn this conversation into a mud fight. I did not make a mistake, the cumulative value of the properties in question *is* $3.2m at the time of writing. That is their worth. What I *actually* said was that we didn't know what the price tag on the Georgia property was at the time the discussion took place, my educated guess was actually pretty spot-on. However, since that was an unknown variable, I generously assumed it cost *zero dollars* and the calculus still didn't make sense given her stated income. Now that we know the value at the time of purchase we can safely say that she spent $2.915m total, a little shy of $3m, on the four properties at the time of purchase, which is an extraordinary spend within the time span in question. I never said that she stole any money, I said that the transactions are suspect, especially considering the fact that her non-profit doesn't seem to be on good terms with the IRS. For all I care she could be magenta and my opinion on the matter wouldn't change - if all you have to offer as a rebuttal is the race card then you can take your big L and wear it around your neck on an equally big chain, I've lost interest in discussing Patrisse Cullors and her financials - California's AG can look into that, if she ever provides an accurate and audited record. As far as I'm concerned, the conversation is over, all the facts are on the table. You can pretend to be a goofball all you want - at the end of the day she somehow managed to conjure up approx. $3m out of thin air, or managed to convince a bank to loan her a sum close to that, while having no income from her non-profit and miniscule income from her consultancy firm and BLM, which makes zero sense for anyone who has ever applied for a mortgage in this universe. Speaking on hand-waiving mistakes, now would be the time to admit that you were muddying the waters by attempting to pass off the $1.4m purchase as some kind of cumulative amount as opposed to a fourth property. In all fairness, I'm not expecting you to do that since you seem to have some kind of unexplained vested interest in defending a stranger's name online, an interest that doesn't seem to be shared by her fellow BLM members who, as I stated earlier, also find her property binge to be exceedingly suspect.
And when USA does it to other countries, its fine and okay? Palestina and Israël should sit together and talk it out, the whole thing is about some divided ground. Israël doesnt want to give Palestina its own ground to stand on, thus the whole attacking thing to one another.
Im not a Trump fan, but when he was president there were no wars, talked to one big tyrant in North Korea and did his best to keep America safe. Even destroyed one of the most dangerous chief in the middle east who was commander of one of the most inhumane groups (Everyone knows who)
Biden is nothing compared to the 4 years that Trump was president, just a sleepy doll in the office. Again, i would never vote for Trump but at least there were no wars.
America have destroyed so many countries, Libya was a country were you could walk safely, nowdays its nothing like it was after America's involvement. I understand that some tyrants arent good, but look how the middle east is a mess now. Suddendly now that Biden is president we are hearing about those inhumane thugs who we didnt hear much from for 4 years.
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That's rich coming from a member of cult 45. News flash: any Jewish person with an ounce of sense hates the actions of Israel and Netanyahu just as much as I do.
No, I never said or implied that.
Uhh what? We were still in Iraq and Afghanistan, he didn't get us out of either war. And he was perilously close to starting a new one in Iran.
I don't think anybody is arguing it's fine and okay. That's whataboutism.
This statement is patently false. Trump oversaw numerous wars, increased troop deployments to various countries, and increased drone strikes.
How did that go?
Trump did nothing, for example, when Russia allegedly put bounties on the heads of American soldiers. No, he did not do his best to keep the United States safe.
Well, first of all, Biden hasn't been president very long. Second, he is not a "sleepy doll" in office.
There were wars.
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That's what he said, but it's not what he did.
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That wouldn't have happened if he had attempted to tag me.
In all fairness, both sides of the conflict are crap so I'm not entirely sure why anyone would side with one or the other. Palestinian terrorists conduct attacks on Israel on a not-infrequent basis and indiscriminately shoot rockets and mortars across the border wall, Israel in turn is not shy about deploying snipers at the border wall, dropping bombs on suspected terrorist cells and flexing its administrative powers to push Palestinians further and further away while re-settling their villages with its own citizens, presumably without compensation. They both suck, they will always suck and they will never stop lobbing explosives over that wall - if anything, it'd be about time to stop funding either side so as to not further inflame the conflict in the Middle East. The U.S. politicians need to come to terms with the realisation that they can't fix the Middle East - that boat will continue to sink no matter how many dollars you stuff in the holes. It's wasted money that would be better spent on domestic issues, there's enough people suffering in the streets at home to worry about those who are suffering across the pond over what's effectively an old building standing on a pile of sand. They will fight over it until the end of time, nobody will ever change that.
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So we keep a military presence there forever just to act as a local police force? Destabilization of the region was always going to be the result of our invasion, and a ton of people said so well before GWB got us involved. Did he or Cheney care? Of course not, oil profiteering always comes first with neocons, and Trump was very much a continuation of that line of thinking. Which is why he pulled our troops from protecting our Kurdish allies and instead stationed them in Saudi Arabia to protect refineries.
Then you need to search for the dailymail news where the first soldiers were withdrawn from those countries a few years ago.
Sure there were a few minors things or two but things didnt escalate.
As of the thing with North Korea there was to be another talk and the dictator was agreeing to be part of that too, Trumps term ended and nothing came after that.
Also Russia never would make threats, everything was blamed on them during Trumps presidency. I remember always reading the news on daily mail and there was always a part were Russia was blamed for almost everything that went wrong, from cyber hacking to attacks.
Puttin doesnt even show the same respect to Biden as he did to Trump. Why? Because Trump was not afraid to do what he thought that was right. There are a lot of things that i dont agree with the Trump presidency, but around those times i didnt hear about those middle east murder group, now sometimes when i read the news there pops ups something about them carrying out an attack.
Wouldnt surprise me that war things will come up during this upcoming 4 years.
As i said im not a Trump fan, but the world spunned differently during those 4 years.
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That is my point. If he had used the @, and had the courage to tag me, the mistake probably wouldn't have happened.
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One side has almost all the power in this "struggle" and abuses that power constantly. They've only continued to get more aggressive ever since Trump moved the US embassy to Jerusalem, a wholly predictable outcome. "An eye for a fingernail" is no way to govern or command a military.
You're ignoring where the former president increased troops, and aside from a troop withdrawal that wouldn't go into effect until after the former president left office, he largely didn't withdrawal troops. The former administration has loosened restrictions preventing casualties, and civilian deaths from air strikes rose considerably. I'm sorry you've bought into various memes like the former president being peaceful or the current president being sleepy, but you are mistaken.
You're timeline of what happened with North Korea is nonsensical and wrong. Talks with North Korea did not stop because the former president didn't win a second term.
Russia demonstrably meddled on the 2016 and 2020 elections, and they're a safe haven for cyber criminals. That's why you heard about them often. The reason Putin isn't kind to Biden is because Putin meddled in the elections to help the former president and hurt Clinton/Biden. There's a reason why the former president never said anything critical of Putin, and it's because he was too busy sucking his dick.
You sound an awful lot like a fan of the former president, because you're spouting a lot of nonsense that's demonstrably untrue.
The irony of Cheney possibly getting replace by someone that actually voted less with Trump.
Donald Trump was the first U.S. President that *didn't* start a *new* international conflict since Jimmy Carter. He can't be held liable for conflicts he inherited from previous administrations - his job as commander-in-chief was to oversee them. The long-term plan was always to withdraw soldiers, which may entail a brief increase in activity as a final sweep. In terms of withdrawal, the plan to remove close to half of the troops from Afghanistan and Iraq was announced in November 2020, in addition, he also announced a near-complete withdrawal from Somalia in December 2020:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54968200
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55196130
This is consistent with the coalition's strategy - NATO has already began transferring control over key military installations to Iraqi security forces. Coalition forces, including American troops, have been slowly withdrawing from the region throughout 2020.
Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, I see no reason why the embassy *shouldn't* be there. The fact that the international community refuses to acknowledge the city's status doesn't mean that it suddenly stops being the capital.
Well agree to disagree. There is no 100% proof that Russia interfered with the 2016 elections. If Trump would've won the 2020 everyone would say that Russia would have rigged it again
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/3770232001
Trump never said that he would've withdraw the soldiers all together but made terms in parts to when soldiers would come back and he did follow that. Of course it didnt happen fast but soldiers did come home, you can find it on Dailymail.
Im not a fan, and as i said earlier i would've never voted for him. Trump did a lot of things that i will never agree with, but we didnt hear about world comflicts that much, media was too busy trying to find the most possible dirt to have him removed from the office, neither did we hear about middle east problems. After Trump got elected those thugs groups together with Putin got eradicated, now they are slowly regrouping, they need to stay eradicated.
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But it does mean that the international community recognizes the need for nuance in this case, and failing to recognize that need has resulted in what we're seeing now. Whenever the situation called for a screwdriver, Trump would bring a jackhammer.
In other words, he was too busy causing problems and conflict at home for the media to cover all the problems and conflict he was creating abroad. That's not a positive thing, no matter how you try to spin it.
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look at this
an obvious bait
do you understand why we D.O.N.T now?
this is not a point to be contested, it's an attempt to cause a flame war
you can be better than this
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