Joe Biden is now officially the 46th President of the United States of America

Valwinz · May 11, 2021

The Fail Biden Presidency is the gift that keeps on giving
I'll take the mean tweets over gas shortages and inflation.

Video coming out of Asheville, North Carolina show the fuel shortage in effect.

Some gas stations are completely out of supply, while others have lineups. pic.twitter.com/7xrSoPA99G
— Marie Oakes (@TheMarieOakes) May 11, 2021

Seliph · May 11, 2021

My brain just got a bit mushier guys help

Need more nuance

Lacius · May 11, 2021

Valwinz said:
The Fail Biden Presidency is the gift that keeps on giving
I'll take the mean tweets over gas shortages and inflation.
https://twitter.com/TheMarieOakes/status/1391914491726766089

In what way is the cyber attack the fault of the Biden administration, and how did the administration act inappropriately? Also, in what universe were the former president's shortcomings limited to just "mean tweets"? How absurd, even for you.

tabzer · May 11, 2021

Darth Meteos said:
it ain't a powerplay, i just thought it was funny
you mad? you seem mad

It is funny, and it was a powerplay. What part of me talking about it made me seem mad?

tabzer · May 11, 2021

Lacius said:
The fact of the matter is the former administration's policies had no effect on the economy and rate of job growth until the pandemic hit.

This is a speculative position that has no bearing on the fact of the lowest records of unemployment in recent American history. You choosing a way to insert the words,"not meaningful" in response to that assessment is just petty.

Darth Meteos · May 11, 2021

tabzer said:
It is funny, and it was a powerplay. What part of me talking about it made me seem mad?

i'm not even trying to make a play and i still come out with a powerplay
i'm the coolest

AmandaRose said:
A rather pointless exercise considering at the last General Election there was only one voter convicted of voter fraud and zero evidence of any other fake votes occurring. When you also concider 25% of people (a lot of them youngsters) in the UK don't have any form photo ID then this new law is actually going to affect the amount of votes all parties receive.

also interesting to note is that a far-right party is in power in the uk right now
i wonder if that's correlated

Julie_Pilgrim · May 11, 2021

Darth Meteos said:
i'm not even trying to make a play and i still come out with a powerplay
i'm the coolest

Scott_pilgrim said:
We are all playing checkers meanwhile ~~seliph~~ Darth Meteos is playing 4d chess

Seliph · May 11, 2021

What the hey you can't out-4d chess me

I have however many black belts @Darth Meteos has, plus one.

Lacius · May 11, 2021

tabzer said:
This is a speculative position that has no bearing on the fact of the lowest records of unemployment in recent American history. You choosing a way to insert the words,"not meaningful" in response to that assessment is just petty.

There was no change in the rate of job gains between when Obama left office and the pandemic. If you look at monthly job gains, they're all about the same. I say "about the same," because the former administration's best year for job gains was actually worse than any of Obama's last three years. That means if anything, the monthly job gains slowed under the former administration without taking the pandemic into consideration. And, again, we really must take the pandemic and the former administration's mishandling of the pandemic into consideration.

There is nothing speculative about this. It's a numerical fact.

Acid_Snake · May 11, 2021

Darth Meteos said:
also interesting to note is that a far-right party is in power in the uk right now
i wonder if that's correlated

What exactly do you consider a "far right" party?
This keeps confusing the hell out of me as there's only two possible far right ideologies: Absolute Monarchy and Anarchism.
Yet every left-leaning voter uses "far right" to refer to fascism, which makes absolutely no sense at all considering fascism is a radical socialist ideology, fascism is far left, not far right.
In a historical sense, "far right" would be the people who defeated Nazi Germany from the perspective of fascism, except for the USSR which was also far left.
Considering this, would you say that the UK right now is leaning towards anarchism? I very much doubt it, so I wouldn't call them "far right" unless they actually start to dismantle the government to make it smaller and less powerful.

Valwinz · May 11, 2021

Acid_Snake said:
What exactly do you consider a "far right" party?

pretty anyone that they don't like is far right

tabzer · May 11, 2021

Lacius said:
There was no change in the rate of job gains between when Obama left office and the pandemic. If you look at monthly job gains, they're all about the same. I say "about the same," because the former administration's best year for job gains was actually worse than any of Obama's last three years. That means if anything, the monthly job gains slowed under the former administration without taking the pandemic into consideration. And, again, we really must take the pandemic and the former administration's mishandling of the pandemic into consideration.

There is nothing speculative about this. It's a numerical fact.

Again. Here is the context:

Lacius said:
The fact of the matter is the former administration's policies had no effect on the economy and rate of job growth until the pandemic hit.

In response, I said:

This is a speculative position that has no bearing on the fact of the lowest records of unemployment in recent American history. You choosing a way to insert the words,"not meaningful" in response to that assessment is just petty.

That's it.

D34DL1N3R · May 11, 2021

Seliph said:
Just found this image of Joe Biden putting a gun in this woman's mouth because she dared to protest his socialist agenda. Why is no one talking about this????? The president of the united states puts a gun square in a woman's mouth (no trigger discipline btw) and the left would rather argue about pronouns and "racism"? What has this country come to???? This is exactly what those cultural Marxists want to happen to our country, we have a murderer as president while the government tries to keep us divided and distracted with socialist lies. This is the country that liberal communists want!!

Love that Tabby "Liked" this one. Most likely believes it to be a factual photo.

And @Valwinz Now about that video in which you insisted Biden was molesting a boy. It has since been debunked, yet I see no comment or apology. The video was from 2015, not something new. The child was Robert Biden II, at his own fathers funeral. Joe is consoling a boy that just lost his Dad. And you fucking losers want to cry molestation. Pathetic and sick.

Lacius · May 11, 2021

tabzer said:
Again. Here is the context:

In response, I said:

This is a speculative position that has no bearing on the fact of the lowest records of unemployment in recent American history. You choosing a way to insert the words,"not meaningful" in response to that assessment is just petty.

That's it.

You don't seem to understand the the following:

The low unemployment numbers were the result of unchanging job gains between the end of the Obama administration and the pandemic. Your argument is like saying that a guy should get credit for all the Bitcoin mined during a particular timeframe even though the last guy is the one who setup the mining rig and left it on. One of the best objective metrics with which to judge an economy is by monthly job gains and losses, and there was, factually, no meaningful change in the rate of job growth in this country after Obama left office. If you want to zoom in and check for any small difference, then the economy slowed and monthly job gains went down under the former administration. However, it wasn't a meaningful decline until the pandemic hit.
You want to focus on economic numbers pre-pandemic, which is a mistake for the reasons I stated above in #1, but it's also a mistake because the post-pandemic economic numbers are due in large part to the former administration's policies.

I'm sorry this is all inconvenient to your position that the former administration was somehow good for the economy, but none of the last president's policies affected the economy in any meaningful way until the pandemic hit, and that's a numerical fact. If the tax cuts that disproportionately affected the rich, for example, had been good for the economy, we would have seen an uptick in the amount of jobs created in succeeding months; we didn't see that. If anything, job gains went down slightly.

In summary, the former administration very slightly slowed the rate of economic growth achieved by the Obama administration, and then they flushed the economy down the toilet with poor or inadequate responses to the pandemic and the economic downturn.

Valwinz · May 11, 2021

Elect Jimmy Carter 2.0. Get Jimmy Carter-era gas shortages and unemployment.

tabzer · May 11, 2021

D34DL1N3R said:
Love that Tabby "Liked" this one. Most likely believes it to be a factual photo.

It's hilarious. I don't even care if it's a real photo.

Lacius said:
The low unemployment numbers were the result of unchanging job gains between the end of the Obama administration and the pandemic. Your argument is like saying that a guy should get credit for all the Bitcoin mined during a particular timeframe even though the last guy is the one who setup the mining rig and left it on. One of the best objective metrics with which to judge an economy is by monthly job gains and losses, and there was, factually, no meaningful change in the rate of job growth in this country after Obama left office. If you want to zoom in and check for any small difference, then the economy slowed and monthly job gains went down under the former administration. However, it wasn't a meaningful decline until the pandemic hit.

Again, your rationalization for the rate of employment is speculative. Also, work on that Bitcoin analogy, because I understand how it works but I have no idea what you are saying.

Lacius said:
You want to focus on economic numbers pre-pandemic, which is a mistake for the reasons I stated above in #1, but it's also a mistake because the post-pandemic economic numbers are due in large part to the former administration's policies.

It was you who chose the focus from Obama's end of term up to the covid flux to being "not meaningful".

Lacius said:
I'm sorry this is all inconvenient to your position that the former administration was somehow good for the economy, but none of the last president's policies affected the economy in any meaningful way until the pandemic hit, and that's a numerical fact.

I'm not interested what you think is meaningful and not meaningful in general. "Numerical facts" aren't sentimental. Trying to inject the sentiment that unemployment decreasing is somehow non-meaningful is just spin.

Lacius · May 11, 2021

tabzer said:
It's hilarious. I don't even care if it's a real photo.

Again, your rationalization for the rate of employment is speculative. Also, work on that Bitcoin analogy, because I understand how it works but I have no idea what you are saying.

It was you who chose the focus from Obama's end of term up to the covid flux to being "not meaningful".

I'm not interested what you think is meaningful and not meaningful in general. "Numerical facts" aren't sentimental. Trying to inject the sentiment that unemployment decreasing is somehow non-meaningful is just spin.

Monthly job gains did not increase between when Obama left office and the pandemic. In fact, they went down slightly. There is nothing subjective about this or anything else I've said.

Acting as though I'm arguing anything other than objective numbers isn't going to work.

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Valwinz said:
Elect Jimmy Carter 2.0. Get Jimmy Carter-era gas shortages and unemployment.

The unemployment you're referring to happened during the previous administration (the economy is steadily recovering in part because of the Democratic relief bill that no Republican voted for but are trying to take credit for), and the cyber attack that may have affected gas prices might have happened in part because of no action on the part of the previous administration against cyber criminals based in Russia. The Biden administration is also doing everything in its power to mitigate the effects of the cyber attack on gas prices.

Biden has a 63% approval rating (71% approval on just his handling on all things related to COVID-19). The previous administration could not have even dreamt of those kinds of numbers. Thank you for reminding us how successful the Biden administration has been so far, and how much of a failure the last administration was.

Valwinz · May 11, 2021

Biden destroying the economy but at least Lacius does it for free lol

Lacius · May 11, 2021

Valwinz said:
Biden destroying the economy but at least Lacius does it for free lol

There is no evidence Biden is "destroying" the economy, in any sense of the word. April numbers were a little lower than expected, but we don't know yet if that's isolated or not. We also get revised numbers each month that could cause the April numbers to go up or go down. Long story short, we can't say much for sure about April.

Pretending the April numbers are final for a moment, they don't show Biden "destroying" the economy. If policies like extended unemployment benefits were slowing economic recovery, we'd see less job growth in places with more extended unemployment benefits, and we'd see more job growth in places with fewer extended unemployment benefits. In reality, we see more job growth in places with more extended unemployment benefits (because it acts as an economic stimulus in addition to it being the moral thing to do).

Whenever you talk about me doing something for free, I think about how the last president had to hire actors to pretend to support him during the 2016 election. How embarrassing.

chrisrlink · May 11, 2021

Valwinz said:
Biden destroying the economy but at least Lacius does it for free lol

I think your GI tract got reversed as you talk out of your ass and verbal diarrhea comes out of your mouth

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I'm saying that cause you don't fact check your shiit there is something called slander which is illegal if biden wanted to he could sue you (I
d actually pay money to see that)

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