Hacking Question Hack a Patched Switch in 2021?

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I meant one small glitch that probably can't (but with extreme luck) could be exploitable
That could be applied to anything though. The cure for cancer, inventing time travel, or other stuff that may seem impossible could technically be solved with a little bit of luck in the right direction. That doesn't mean it will ever amount to anything.
 

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That could be applied to anything though. The cure for cancer, inventing time travel, or other stuff that may seem impossible could technically be solved with a little bit of luck in the right direction. That doesn't mean it will ever amount to anything.
...The plausibility of a glitch being found in a Nintendo console by accident is way more than discovering time travel, even while hopped up on felix felicis. I'm pretty sure we'll find one soon.
 

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There is definitely a way to hack any switch. It is called N private key used for code signing. If it will be leaked or "guessed" then there will be software hack.
 
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There is definitely a way to hack any switch
No. Not really. So, stop spreading lies. Beginners read this and believe this. There is atm no chance to install a cfw on ipatched or mariko units. Except you have a chip (sx core or sx lite) or you are on a very low firmware with an ipatched console.

It is called N private key used for code signing. If it will be leaked or "guessed" then there will be software hack.
And this makes no sense. And even if this would be true, no one could use it for anything because it is (maybe?) copyrighted stuff from nintendo :P
 
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And this makes no sense. And even if this would be true, no one could use it for anything because it is (maybe?) copyrighted stuff from nintendo
Yeah, using it is obvious way to get a court case as this is sharing a security related data. Jail and big fine (that can go in millions of $) is what will wait for you. They will make an example from you to warn others before doing stupid shit like this again. And guessing this key would averagely take more time than how old is our Universe. lol
 
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Your entire statement was incorrect.
Glitches, exploits, and everything else are easy to find if you know where to look.
This assumes that glitches are present. To get CFW running you need to find a bug in the kernel or whatever is loading the kernel. Other consoles use monolotihic kernels so there is lots of room for error that can be exploited, the Switch is using a micro kernel so only the bare minimum amount of code needed is running. This means there is less room for glitches to slip in, and means that it is easier to reverse engineer. Since it is easier to reverse engineer that means we (by which I mean the people actually reverse engineering) can be pretty confident that there are no bugs because it is feasible to go over every line of code unlike other consoles. It also means that it is easier for Nintendo to maintain, small programs are easier to keep bug free than large ones.

Are there glitches present in the kernel? Certainly. But not every glitch can be exploited and the people who have the skills to reverse engineer the kernel have said that there are no exploitable glitches. Game save exploits won't help you either since games don't have the necessary privileges to modify the OS. On other systems like the 3DS whenever save game exploits were used they were either soley used for homebrew or they were chained with kernel exploits to modify the OS. Since there are no glitches in the kernel to exploit you can not chain them even if you had a game save exploit.

So what about glitches in the thing that loads the kernel? That would be the boot rom and bootloader. The boot rom has been completely reverse engineered, that's how we got Fusee Gelee. No one else has found any glitches that can be exploited in the boot rom using only software. There are other glitches but you need mod chips in order to actually use them. Stuff like the random timings to prevent fault injection not actually being random.

So what about the bootloader? That has also been entirely reverse engineered and the only exploitable bug was patched in firmware 6.2.0, not that that matters because it was impossible to use that bug anyway since it would take an ungodly amount of time to bruteforce the required data. The only other glitches can be exploited using mod chips, and in the case of the boot loader that's even worse than boot rom glitches since the boot loader can be patched in firmware updates unlike the boot rom.

There is definitely a way to hack any switch. It is called N private key used for code signing. If it will be leaked or "guessed" then there will be software hack.
I can't tell if you're shit posting here but guessing N's key is almost certainly not happening any time soon. Could it be leaked? I'm not sure. Brute forcing the key is definitely out of the question though. I'm not going to go in to the mathematics but if you're interested here is a blog post explaining why brute forcing AES with current computers is not going to happen. https://scrambox.com/article/brute-force-aes/

Is it possible? Sure. But by the time it happens you'll be long dead. And yeah sure there's a 0.00000000001% chance that it could happen within your life time but ask any statistician and they'll tell you it's not happening.

Edit: Your only hope for a software exploit is if Nintendo hugely fucks up in a future update.
 
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Not in response to anyone, but just a general branch of the conversation, here's another thought I had that I will try out.

Computers boot up, but they have a little key/combo you can enter in at startup to open a hidden menu. Of course, the switch RCM was probably the only thing that worked like that.

My thought is: The switch has native keyboard support, so why not try to use a keyboard, mash the sh*t out of some keys, and see if a wacky bootup happens?

Time to test it.
 

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Not in response to anyone, but just a general branch of the conversation, here's another thought I had that I will try out.

Computers boot up, but they have a little key/combo you can enter in at startup to open a hidden menu. Of course, the switch RCM was probably the only thing that worked like that.

My thought is: The switch has native keyboard support, so why not try to use a keyboard, mash the sh*t out of some keys, and see if a wacky bootup happens?

Time to test it.

Start with "ESC", that worked before: https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/4/...ic-debug-menu-corsair-keyboard-escape-esc-key

Good luck ;)
 

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What ever happened to Deja Vu for patched hardware running 7.0.1 and lower? It seems like 4.1.0 was necessary to exploit it.

Did it not pan out?
 

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