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Yes I can, I was just explaining what I've seen how people like to talk here, which isn't different from other places I've been about conversation about politics. I've learned you can't fix stupid or evil, but it's fun to watch and take pity on those who are.
 

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Yes I can, I was just explaining what I've seen how people like to talk here, which isn't different from other places I've been about conversation about politics. I've learned you can't fix stupid or evil, but it's fun to watch and take pity on those who are.

Your holier than thou, finger pointing, gaslighting, hypocritical, narcissistic tactics are incredibly weak and you've freaked out in other topics over absolutely NOTHING.
 

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The previous administration saw the LOWEST jobless numbers and welfare cases in decades. The only reason those numbers jumped back up is because of COVID. That, and Democrats refused to approve stimulus that ONLY applied to the American people. The latest stimulus package has a whopping grand total of 9% going towards actual COVID relief.

The "fact checker's" version, still shows more than 15% that doesn't have anything to do with COVID, While other things counted towards the COVID side: "However, there are quite a few economic provisions in the bill that could potentially be considered “COVID-related” as well".

Potentially. lol. Even 15% of the 1.9 Trillion dollar package... is a lot of goddamn money. Your whole life is a lie.
The previous administration saw no real increase in the rate of job growth between when Obama left office and when the pandemic hit. It should also be noted that the previous administration's mishandling of the pandemic is a large reason why the economy was hit so hard, so give credit where credit is due.

Regarding the Democratic relief bill, about 30% alone went towards cash payments to individuals and unemployment benefits. 25% went to business loans, another 19% went to small business loans specifically, about 17% went to governmental COVID response, and about 9% went to public services like hospitals.

I don't see anything unrelated to pandemic relief. Even if I had been wrong, which I'm not, it would be laughably hyperbolic and absurd to say my "whole life is a lie." In other words, this kind of nonsensical hyperbole usually occurs when someone is overcompensating for being wrong.
 
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It should also be noted that the previous administration's mishandling of the pandemic is a large reason why the economy was hit so hard

The lockdowns caused the economy to be hit "so hard", and Trump didn't order that.

Honestly I don't believe you on the claim that "there was no real job growth" after Trump took office. It maybe true that the propaganda of such is effective, but why should someone believe you?
 

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The lockdowns caused the economy to be hit "so hard", and Trump didn't order that.

Honestly I don't believe you on the claim that "there was no real job growth" after Trump took office. It maybe true that the propaganda of such is effective, but why should someone believe you?
The former president's mishandling of the pandemic caused it, and the economic consequences, to be much worse than they needed to be. In addition, the Republican recovery bills were inadequate in response to the economic issues the former administration exacerbated.

It is an objective fact that the monthly job gains were roughly unchanged between when Obama left office and when the pandemic hit. I'm sorry if the facts are inconvenient for you.
 

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The former president's mishandling of the pandemic caused it, and the economic consequences, to be much worse than they needed to be.

You are clearly avoiding saying how. Is this one of those,"why are you making me do this to you?!" situations?

It is an objective fact that the monthly job gains were roughly unchanged between when Obama left office and when the pandemic hit.

Okay, so now you are extending the definition to mean that there was no meaningful job growth under Obama.

I'm sorry if the facts are inconvenient for you.

Classic lacius.
 

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You are clearly avoiding saying how. Is this one of those,"why are you making me do this to you?!" situations?
The former administration denied the pandemic was serious, told people to go about their business as usual, denied masks should be worn, peddled dangerous misinformation about the pandemic constantly, and never seriously promoted vaccine use (we didn't find out he even received the vaccine until after he left office). The former administration also barely had a vaccination strategy. It's no wonder the pandemic exploded in the United States, which comes with the economic consequences one would reasonably expect.

I've posted numerous times in the election thread a thorough, but not full, list of how the former administration failed in its response to the pandemic. I refer you to it, since I know you've already seen it.

Okay, so now you are extending the definition to mean that there was no meaningful job growth under Obama.
I'm not sure how anyone can reasonably jump to the conclusion that I'm claiming there was no meaningful job growth under Obama. His administration took us from the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression to a booming economy.

The problem for the former administration is that the rate of job growth stayed where it was after Obama left office. In fact, if you want to get picky, Obama's last three years of job growth (2014-2016, well after the Recession) were all better than the former administration's best year. The only meaningful effect the former administration had on the economy was the economic downturn that was the result of the pandemic and the administration's mishandling of the pandemic.
 

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did you even watch the clip
does it bother you that you're more interested in upholding your worldview than researching past an internet search for "content that agrees with me"
This is coming from the same guy who said expanded unemployment benefits are why the April job numbers were low, even though the places with better unemployment benefits saw better job numbers in April, and places with fewer unemployment benefits saw worse job numbers in April. There probably isn't a lot of research going on.
 

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This is coming from the same guy who said expanded unemployment benefits are why the April job numbers were low, even though the places with better unemployment benefits saw better job numbers in April, and places with fewer unemployment benefits saw worse job numbers in April. There probably isn't a lot of research going on.
Sounds similar to this. Link
 

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from wiki first paragraph about this guy
"John Michael Posobiec III (/pəˈsoʊbɪk/ pə-SOH-bik; born December 14, 1985)[1] is an American alt-right[2][3][4] and alt-lite[5] political activist, conspiracy theorist,[6] and Internet troll.[7][8][9][10] Posobiec is best known for his pro-Donald Trump comments on Twitter, as well as using white supremacist and antisemitic symbols and talking points, including the white genocide conspiracy theory.[11][12][13][14] He has promoted fake news, including the debunked Pizzagate conspiracy theory claiming high-ranking Democratic Party officials were involved in a child sex ring.[15] Since 2018, Posobiec has been employed by One America News Network (OANN), a far-right cable news television channel, as a political correspondant...."when will you EVER LEARN?
 
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so you like Nazi scumbags huh Valwinz? pretty much all you type here is alt-right garbage you don't use any fact checking laughable at best

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funny how i was having an intelligent convo about Marxism,Communism (and the apparent misuse of Communism as a term to describe totalerism/dictatorship as an apparent "fix" to the current PS5/series scalping crisis but i'm derailing this thread so I'll stop
 
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