Misc if I get banned on my 3ds, what exactly is getting banned?

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I didn't found a question like this before, so when I getting banned on my 3ds what exactly is getting banned? is only my nnid account banned? (I know if u get banned you can't change your nnid anymore) or is it a complete console Bann?

and can you avoid a Bann if you don't set up a internet connection? that means you delete all your wlan settings so your 3ds never goes online (I mean if you buy a new "3ds" console and only download a game from the eshop with this game you homebrew the console LATER, when you already delete all wlan settings)

set up a new 3ds console > download a game from eshop > Delete all wlan settings > install CFW
 
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That is a good question, first a disclaimer, I don't know the full details on what I am about to explain, if anyone has a better insight on what happens please feel free to correct me. There are a couple different types of ban, there are two I'm fully aware they exist and a 3rd one I've never experienced nor have concrete information if it's even real.

Local Friend Code Seed ban
These are the most common if you are just an average CFW user, Nintendo stroke many consoles with a ban-wave some time ago, the users affected with this ban-wave only had their specific console banned, or more specifically, their Local Friend Code Seed, which is a file that basically is blacklisted on Nintendo servers and thus are prevented from participating on most online activities, the only exceptions being using the e-shop and pokemon bank (I'm unsure if the latter or any others are applicable.)

This ban though scary can be lifted up, it's just a matter of getting an unbanned LFC seed and replacing the older one, however doing so has some disadvantageous outcomes, first, that seed is "marked" now, as its chances of getting detected and banned rises, the more users use it the higher the risk of that seed getting banned, if it's banned it's back to the beginning and you'll need to find a new one. The second disadvantage is that these seeds can't be replicated nor generated, so there are as many seed as there are 3DSes out there. Finally and this is one I've seen almost no one talk about, is that it has a higher chance of getting you into "For Glory Hell" in Smash Brothers, due to the same principle I laid before, the higher the number of players playing around with it makes it so you are more prone to end up there, it's nothing serious but can get annoying some times, this last point is just based on my experience, so it may be totally wrong.

Lastly this ban's biggest thing is that no one is sure how Nintendo detects or enforces this ban, a 800+ (or something) topic on this yielded mixed results, there is the idea that disabling spot-pass and other internet options makes it less likely for you to get banned, but to be honest the targets seem to be totally random. Luckily for us the ban have stopped for now, but you never know when they would start to ban consoles again, my idea is that if you have CFW you are already marked, but you could try to hide it somehow. It is also advised to not uninstall your CFW once installed as you'd still be marked, but with less tools to fight the ban once it happens.

NNID ban

This one is one ban I haven't experienced myself, because it's kinda harder to get, basically it's given to you if you are detected to be playing online on a major release (examples so far have been Pokemon games and Fire Emblem) before the release date. This ban is much more severe, (and I'm unsure if it's even an NNID ban) from what I understand is that it prevents you from accessing all online capabilities and can't be lifted, supposedly there are a couple of users who know how, but I don't think they've ever shared it publicly. To avoid this ban just don't play major titles before release or if you really want to, do it while off-line, but still, it's a bit risky.

Game Specific bans

This last one is a bit weird because I've heard some reports of it but never seen it explicitly differentiated from the others, my understanding is that it only bans you from a single game (Pokemon and Monster Hunter are the only ones I know it could happen) when cheating is detected, but I've never seen it happen, I also don't know how to lift it.

And those are it pretty much as far as I know, there is no fool-proof way of preventing bans that we know of, and not using internet connections is kinda like banning yourself, my advice is not to worry too much about it, it's pretty easy to lift as long as it's the LFC seed ban. Hope this was helpful.
 

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Nintendo intentionally bricking or offline-banning your 3DS would be highly illegal.

Their occasional "stability" updates can potentially block certain CFW and give the appearance of a brick, but you can either bypass loading the CFW, or wait the hour or so it takes for the CFW's developer(s) to release a fix.
 

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If we are banned on 3ds and having the same nintendo account, our nintendo switch account or nintendo switch can be banned ?
 

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3DS bans are now rare because the system is dead.

most bans are console particular. Meaning if you were to log on with your NNID on another system it should be fine... even Switch

HOWEVER you can be account banned- I've heard it happen to people who do chargebacks on bought games, even by accident, to which nintendo says "go pound sand, we can do anything"

you should be fine to CFW a 3DS at this point. don't go cheating online though
 

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3DS bans are now rare because the system is dead.

most bans are console particular. Meaning if you were to log on with your NNID on another system it should be fine... even Switch

HOWEVER you can be account banned- I've heard it happen to people who do chargebacks on bought games, even by accident, to which nintendo says "go pound sand, we can do anything"

you should be fine to CFW a 3DS at this point. don't go cheating online though


i'm also wondering if I can get ban if I use pokebank + .cia pokemon games, because even if one of my pokemon game are just a dump from my cartdrige, not all of them are considerate "legit"
 

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That is a good question, first a disclaimer, I don't know the full details on what I am about to explain, if anyone has a better insight on what happens please feel free to correct me. There are a couple different types of ban, there are two I'm fully aware they exist and a 3rd one I've never experienced nor have concrete information if it's even real.

Local Friend Code Seed ban
These are the most common if you are just an average CFW user, Nintendo stroke many consoles with a ban-wave some time ago, the users affected with this ban-wave only had their specific console banned, or more specifically, their Local Friend Code Seed, which is a file that basically is blacklisted on Nintendo servers and thus are prevented from participating on most online activities, the only exceptions being using the e-shop and pokemon bank (I'm unsure if the latter or any others are applicable.)

This ban though scary can be lifted up, it's just a matter of getting an unbanned LFC seed and replacing the older one, however doing so has some disadvantageous outcomes, first, that seed is "marked" now, as its chances of getting detected and banned rises, the more users use it the higher the risk of that seed getting banned, if it's banned it's back to the beginning and you'll need to find a new one. The second disadvantage is that these seeds can't be replicated nor generated, so there are as many seed as there are 3DSes out there. Finally and this is one I've seen almost no one talk about, is that it has a higher chance of getting you into "For Glory Hell" in Smash Brothers, due to the same principle I laid before, the higher the number of players playing around with it makes it so you are more prone to end up there, it's nothing serious but can get annoying some times, this last point is just based on my experience, so it may be totally wrong.

Lastly this ban's biggest thing is that no one is sure how Nintendo detects or enforces this ban, a 800+ (or something) topic on this yielded mixed results, there is the idea that disabling spot-pass and other internet options makes it less likely for you to get banned, but to be honest the targets seem to be totally random. Luckily for us the ban have stopped for now, but you never know when they would start to ban consoles again, my idea is that if you have CFW you are already marked, but you could try to hide it somehow. It is also advised to not uninstall your CFW once installed as you'd still be marked, but with less tools to fight the ban once it happens.

NNID ban

This one is one ban I haven't experienced myself, because it's kinda harder to get, basically it's given to you if you are detected to be playing online on a major release (examples so far have been Pokemon games and Fire Emblem) before the release date. This ban is much more severe, (and I'm unsure if it's even an NNID ban) from what I understand is that it prevents you from accessing all online capabilities and can't be lifted, supposedly there are a couple of users who know how, but I don't think they've ever shared it publicly. To avoid this ban just don't play major titles before release or if you really want to, do it while off-line, but still, it's a bit risky.

Game Specific bans

This last one is a bit weird because I've heard some reports of it but never seen it explicitly differentiated from the others, my understanding is that it only bans you from a single game (Pokemon and Monster Hunter are the only ones I know it could happen) when cheating is detected, but I've never seen it happen, I also don't know how to lift it.

And those are it pretty much as far as I know, there is no fool-proof way of preventing bans that we know of, and not using internet connections is kinda like banning yourself, my advice is not to worry too much about it, it's pretty easy to lift as long as it's the LFC seed ban. Hope this was helpful.

Hi how long does it take for nintendo if you cheated online?
 

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I cheated 5 days ago and not banned am I safe?

Yeah if you are not instant banned on the 3ds you are good to go, they can still ban people who are flagged but it's really unlikely at this point, we are probably more near to see the nintendo 3ds online shut down than getting a new ban wave
 

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Yeah if you are not instant banned on the 3ds you are good to go, they can still ban people who are flagged but it's really unlikely at this point, we are probably more near to see the nintendo 3ds online shut down than getting a new ban wave

Ok thx

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Yeah if you are not instant banned on the 3ds you are good to go, they can still ban people who are flagged but it's really unlikely at this point, we are probably more near to see the nintendo 3ds online shut down than getting a new ban wave

I used Powersaves action reply and cheated 900 masterballs and other items... I went online 6 days ago and didnt use the items. I just used the GTS and traded "legal" Pokemons but didnt used other online things. I cant get flagged if i have 900 masterballs but dont use them is this right? And thanks for your quick replys.
 

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Ok thx

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I used Powersaves action reply and cheated 900 masterballs and other items... I went online 6 days ago and didnt use the items. I just used the GTS and traded "legal" Pokemons but didnt used other online things. I cant get flagged if i have 900 masterballs but dont use them is this right? And thanks for your quick replys.


Don't worry you won't get banned, at this point it's instant ban or nothing
 
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