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Why is not there a Zeebo Emulator for PC?
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Worth the bump. Zeebo is a fascinating little box, and last year me and a few others were actually very interested in doing something homebrew-related for it... before seeing the price. Nah, I'm alright.
I used to work at the zeebo Qualcomm division. I think I have an sd card that has all the games released and unreleased. Oh, the sd card slot can be used to install games. You just have to have the correct mifs and mods placed on the sd card.
We also made a smaller console called the z3. Unfortunately management did some frivolous spending and we couldn't push the z3 out. The z3 was basically an Android phone from 2014. It was able to run fez, ilomilo and some other Xbox 360 games
We also made a smaller console called the z3. Unfortunately management did some frivolous spending and we couldn't push the z3 out. The z3 was basically an Android phone from 2014. It was able to run fez, ilomilo and some other Xbox 360 games
It is funny
Here in Brazil it is easy to find a sealed Zeebo for R $ 150 (at the current dollar price, it costs around $ 25) You could try asking some Brazilian from the Facebook group Zeebo to buy, import, it ends up paying off more. However, I don't know if a sealed zeebo would be of much use, after all, the online store and the servers have closed and the only current means of unlocking is something super complicated to do and that can damage the console.
From what I read on the TripleOxygen website, it is necessary to modify Zeebo so that it can install games and apps by SD, right?
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To modify the zeebo for firmware it had to be done from the back of the console, to add games you just needed to use an sd card that had the proper text script to flash the games on to the console. All we did was get notepad, copy and paste the text script on to a new notepad, add some new mifs and mods to the script, save the text script, drag and drop it on to a new sd sard and insert the sd card into any zeebo. From there the zeebo would flash and install the games.
If I can find the SD cards I'll post the text scripts. I'll also take pictures of my new Chinese/ Mexico console and the z3.
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Thanks for the info.
As far as I know, in order to be able to put games unofficially on Zeebo it is necessary to obtain the 61u.key file first ( https://www.tripleoxygen.net/wiki/console/zeebo/61u.key ) with this file placed at the root of the SD Card in Zeebo it is possible to activate the diagnostic port (the Mini-USB that is behind the console https://www.tripleoxygen.net/wiki/console/zeebo/porta_de_diagnostico ) and with the diagnostic port active, it is possible to make changes to the console, among them having access to BREW Appmgr (which is the '' base '' system of the BREW operating system https://www.tripleoxygen.net/wiki/console/zeebo/brew_appmgr ) it is possible to access the BREW appmgr by modifying the Flixfile.dat file in the FIRSTAPP parameter and change the number to the application 0 - BREW Appmgr which normally comes as the default 3- ZeeboApp / Z-Wheel
With the diagnostic door open and with access to BREW Appmgr it is then possible to enter EMAPPLET ( https://www.tripleoxygen.net/wiki/console/zeebo/emapplet ) and go to the Field Test option, there, it will be possible to go to the Field Test> Memory Copy option and thus load games and applications from SD to Zeebo.
The biggest problem in question is that each Zeebo has a unique 61u.key file, nobody has been able to find out how it is generated (many thought it was based on the console's IMEI, but so far nothing) and at the moment the only way to get the 61u.key file present inside your Zeebo in a very complicated process that requires welding a JTAG on the console and among other things that I can't explain, recently a person who worked on the console said that there was an application at Qualcomm in which he generated this 61u.key file compatible with this Zeebo to then have access to the console and that this application was used by employees in Brazil who performed his technical assistance, however , this program / application is never leaked.
Other people discovered that it is possible to get access to Zeebo again just by changing the SIM-Card of the console, in addition, the servers used for the update and store are already available, of course, it would be possible to re-create the Zeebo update server and from the store to create a kind of '' FreeShop '' or launch a customized update for all Zeebos available, however, the idea did not go forward at the Zeebo Club and Open Zeebo, for several reasons, but it is something possible to do.
In the end, we don't have an emulator for Zeebo and the console was not very well exploited by hackers, but both cases are quite possible if someone with experience is interested.
PS: Sorry for my english.
Wow, so do you have a Zeebo Plus ( https://forum.outerspace.com.br/index.php?threads/zeebo-plus-após-10-anos-fãs-ré-lembram-um-protótipo-de-uma-versão-do-zeebo-com-controle-sem-fio-e-vídeo-componente-que-nunca-foi-lançada.536295/ ) ?Welp, this sucks. Unfortunately all my sd cards have been formattedbut here's some pics of the zeebo 2 console for china and Mexico... This was not released though. I'm still trying to find the Z3.
I heard that it has a resolution of 480p and a menu completely different from the Zeebos that were sold in addition to wireless control.
Could you post some images from his menu or some video? Or did you manage to play something at him?
You have something extremely rare on your hands.
You said you had an SD with all the games released and not released, can you tell if you had any demo or prototype games that were canceled as Cid the Dummy?, and maybe explain if there is an easier way to put games on Zeebo without needing this '' text script '' since the store has already been closed.
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Unfortunately the zeebo 2 or plus was in such early development we just flashed games on them individually. There was no U.I at all. We flashed a Chinese underwater counting game and it automatically brought you in game lol. That's how early in development it was. At the same time we were working on the z3 and we were overwhelmed jumping between consoles.
The games, I have to sift through old emails to try to remember what we had...this was from 2013-2014. One game I do know that was a pure prototype was a game we were doing like guitar hero...very bad
The games, I have to sift through old emails to try to remember what we had...this was from 2013-2014. One game I do know that was a pure prototype was a game we were doing like guitar hero...very bad
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I see, it is something very interesting, I ended up meeting a person who ended up buying the Zeebo 2 / Zeebo Plus on eBay, but his console was stuck on an error screen, he presented a different design than the standard Zeebo model despite be the same error displayed on the console.
He ended up re-passing the console and we don't know what the end was.
So I would love it if you could show more of this model ( and the Z3 )
Also, If you can somehow recover the files from the SD you mentioned or show some prototypes of canceled games like maybe Cid the Dummy and Plants vs Zombie for Zeebo would be awesome.
I would love to be able to have some way to play games on my Zeebo, but I don't want to risk the only unlocking method that currently exists for fear of damaging my console.
Also, thank you so much for sharing all this information, Zeebo Club and I are very excited about it.
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As ironic as it may be, the Zeebo version was released (and improved) two years later for iOS and Android.
There are some curious facts about Zeebo games:
1º ~ Zeebo has an exclusive Double Dragon remake developed by Brizo Interactive, unlike Double Dragon Neon, it is not in 3D, it goes in the most classic style and resembles Double Dragon Advance and is considered by many people as the best remake of the game so far.
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/double-dragon-zeebo/
https://doubledragon.kontek.net/games/dd/rddzeebo.html
2 ~ The Action-RPG Zenonia was released for other consoles as well, such as the PSP, PS3 and Nintendo DSi (and also the 3DS), but the Zeebo version is the only one that has the Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese language.
3 ~ Ironically, it was the first console to receive a Quake 1 and 2 port that is a direct conversion from the original PC version, other consoles like PS1, Saturn and N64 that had the ports were made with totally different engines and with several downgrades in relation the PC version.
It is also the only version to have Brazilian Portuguese dubbing and translation.
4 ~ Zeebo had internet access without the need for cables, wi-fi or anything using the 3G network as PSVita, the difference is that Zeebo already had a SIM-Card inside the console and was fully configured ready for access.
Users did not pay for access to the 3G network, it was completely free to update the console, access the store and use online game resources such as Ranking and etc... only the browser was paid. ( Zeebo Browser : / )
Because of this TecToy limited the size of the games to reduce costs, Zeebo's games could not weigh more than 50 MB.
This hurt Zeebo a lot, because of that the console was mostly limited to ports of laptops and smartphones because they were the lightest games of the time and even then, several games needed to undergo downgrades to suit the space needed.
A case worth mentioning is Need for Speed Carbon: Own the City, it is a special version of Need for Speed Carbon released especially for GBA, DS and PSP, the Zeebo version is a direct port of the PSP version, while the PSP version weighs about 332 MB, the Zeebo version weighs only 36 MB (with most of the game already pre-installed on all Zeebo consoles, the user only had to download the executable that weighed only 2 MB)
As you can imagine, the Zeebo version suffered a lot with this, all assets were reduced to the worst possible quality to be able to have this file-size.
5 ~ Zeebo had a Miis clone called Zeeboids, only four games in the system make use of Zeeboids.
As with Miis it was possible to transfer Zeeboids to the internet and use Zeeboids from friends.
But a differential concept present in Zeeboids was that it was possible to evolve your Zeeboid and gain attributes in one game and then use it in another game and keep the experience you got in the past game.
But a differential concept present in Zeeboids was that it was possible to evolve your Zeeboid and gain attributes in one game and then use it in another game and keep the experience you got in the past game
6 ~ Due to the contract with Qualcomm, TecToy was forced to use Qualcomm's BREW operating system on its console, which unfortunately harmed Zeebo as the operating system uses much of the console's hardware for unnecessary tasks leaving very little for games.
If you stop to compare the BREW games released for cell phones of the time (2008 down) it is quite impressive what they managed to do with Zeebo even with a horrible operating system.
Zeebo is a very interesting console, despite having failed terribly I can see something special about it, it's just a pity that there is no emulator out there and the console itself was not very well exploited by hackers, there are some homebrews to run Sega Genesis and Arcades on Zeebo and even BREW mobile games, but there is only one way to unlock Zeebo today and it is an extremely difficult and complicated process that if done incorrectly can permanently damage the console. I own Zeebo and it has a special place in my collection, but unfortunately my Zeebo only has 21 games and I don't have the courage to take any chances with the current unlocking method, I hope that in the future there is some safer way to unlock the console maybe via USB or the SD Card slot.
If you are curious about this console I recommend taking a look at these videos.
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i already knew that, but not only does that version not work on newer android builds, it has less meme value because neither androir nor ios were commercial flops
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Component on what was meant to be a budget system? were they insane or something?Welp, this sucks. Unfortunately all my sd cards have been formatted
I don't know anything about versions of Zeebo that never saw the light of day.
But Zeebo itself in Brazil was launched for R$ 500 and then had the price cut to R$ 300,
It was focused more on emerging countries (Brazil, Mexico, India and China), here in Brazil the price of Zeebo was much lower than that of a Wii, PS3 and X360, but on the other hand, it was possible to find a Playstation 2 for R$ 400 - 500 on the black market.
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In the current dollar to real conversion:
R$ 300 = U$ 56,01 ( 1 U$ = 5,36 R$ 2020 )
I don't remember how much the dollar cost here between 2008 to 2011, but I still remember that Zeebo at least in 2010 was a lot cheaper than most console options around here.
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what i meant is that the kind of person who would have bought a zeebo 2 wouldnt have a tv capable of making use of component, thus making the overall system cost more while 99% of people wouldnt have been able to take advantage of component cables, if the first zeebo was meant to be a budget system i highly doubt succesors would not have been budget systems as well
It was the time before all Lula's "maracutaias" and robbery start to stink and its time bomb get near to explode in that horrendous days that was when his puppet Dilma was "presidenta" [more like "presidanta" = president+anta ´(tapir, which is a way we use to call someone more dumb than an ass) since she don't know even what she was talking in most ocasions and like so much to ignore simple portuguese rules because "she was ellected president"]. Anyway,,, At this point we still had a kinda good financial scenario and dollar was flutuating under 2BRL.
I remember well cause in 2011 with dollar already starting to skyrocket i imported a box in the vallue of 110USD and only paid 260BRL total including all the nasty taxes we have (60% over ANYTHING costing more than 50USD that comes from another country plus some little percentage for currency conversion and kinda 10% for use credit card in overseas shopping). Never stop to think that this kind of mess is what blocks any attempt to develop good technology over here. We had Zeebo that was a damn good idea for its time, but poorly implemented due to these limitations;
Hey, I don't know if this will help someone to develop an emulator for Zeebo or even some way to unlock the console in a simpler way (the current method is very dangerous, it involves using a JTAG and if done in the wrong way can damage the console), but I gathered the Zeebo development kit and decided to upload it in case anyone wants to study it, who knows to do some homebrew for Zeebo or even a port of Super Mario 64 or Doom, who knows?
Anyway, to install the Zeebo SDK you need the BREW SDK 4.0.2 (Zeebo’s operating system is basically a customized version of this Brew, it’s a horrible operating system ... it uses a lot of the console’s hardware leaving little for the games, it's slow, stuck and etc ... I'm surprised that TecToy was able to port PC games like Quake 1 and 2 and even a PSP game like Need for Speed Carbon: Own the City on Zeebo with this OS) and to install BREW SDK 4.0.2 you need BREW SDK Tools 1.1.1, unfortunately Qualcomm no longer has the old versions of BREW so I had to download Brew MP SDK 7.10.12 and use BREW 4.0.2 SP19 in it as an Add-On, it was supposed to work but when I try to install the Zeebo SDK it says that the BREW SDK 4.0.2 is not installed and I was unable to solve this problem.
Anyway ... I'm making it available to anyone who wants to or who can use it, Zeebo is a very interesting console, it's a shame that his hack scene is even smaller and worse than Virtual Boy's, inside the pack it has a file called Zeebo Developer Guide who can assist you.
I also found some links that can help, but only with information in Portuguese, so I understood it was even possible to convert applications made in C # to BREW, I wonder what to do with it.
Download the Pack: https://www.mediafire.com/file/3spev5vb59ivbtv/Zeebo_SDK_%2B_BREW_SDK_4.0.2_%2B_BREW_MP_SDK.zip/file
Links I mentioned:
https://www.tripleoxygen.net/wiki/console/zeebo/start
https://zeebo.forumbrasil.net/t1629...3spO_VBgTF9it8mDbHFYKEanWKp4u89h4ET3C3sbdWWVk
https://zeebowiki.blogspot.com/2019/02/ambiente-de-desenvolvimento.html
https://zeebo.forumbrasil.net/t2570...ilitando-aceleracao-de-hardware-via-opengl-es
Anyway, to install the Zeebo SDK you need the BREW SDK 4.0.2 (Zeebo’s operating system is basically a customized version of this Brew, it’s a horrible operating system ... it uses a lot of the console’s hardware leaving little for the games, it's slow, stuck and etc ... I'm surprised that TecToy was able to port PC games like Quake 1 and 2 and even a PSP game like Need for Speed Carbon: Own the City on Zeebo with this OS) and to install BREW SDK 4.0.2 you need BREW SDK Tools 1.1.1, unfortunately Qualcomm no longer has the old versions of BREW so I had to download Brew MP SDK 7.10.12 and use BREW 4.0.2 SP19 in it as an Add-On, it was supposed to work but when I try to install the Zeebo SDK it says that the BREW SDK 4.0.2 is not installed and I was unable to solve this problem.
Anyway ... I'm making it available to anyone who wants to or who can use it, Zeebo is a very interesting console, it's a shame that his hack scene is even smaller and worse than Virtual Boy's, inside the pack it has a file called Zeebo Developer Guide who can assist you.
I also found some links that can help, but only with information in Portuguese, so I understood it was even possible to convert applications made in C # to BREW, I wonder what to do with it.
Download the Pack: https://www.mediafire.com/file/3spev5vb59ivbtv/Zeebo_SDK_%2B_BREW_SDK_4.0.2_%2B_BREW_MP_SDK.zip/file
Links I mentioned:
https://www.tripleoxygen.net/wiki/console/zeebo/start
https://zeebo.forumbrasil.net/t1629...3spO_VBgTF9it8mDbHFYKEanWKp4u89h4ET3C3sbdWWVk
https://zeebowiki.blogspot.com/2019/02/ambiente-de-desenvolvimento.html
https://zeebo.forumbrasil.net/t2570...ilitando-aceleracao-de-hardware-via-opengl-es
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