The Atari VCS: A simple review

Deleted member 668561 · Feb 17, 2021

ital said:
Yawn! People who say things like that are as bad as this:

https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/...stall-emulators-raspberry-pi-never-shut-fuck/

People who are buying these aren't buying them because they think "Hey, I wonder if I could build a PC for cheaper?". Its not aimed at people who think like that (ie super nerds) but at casuals, lapsed gamers and people who actually have a life.

For me the form factor, ease of use and relative power to price ratio in an off the shelf unit is the appeal as it could become the new Shield TV as the set top box area lags behind in power whilst gimmicky handhelds are getting ramped up like crazy.

Or, I suppose, I could wonder if I could build a PC cheaper. And complain about sharp knees. Whilst looking like an IRL version of Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons.

i hate the assumption that all "nerds" are 5ft 8, and weigh 250 pounds,or are generally unattractive, and have anxiey/social issues, you'd be suprised what kind of life most actually live...irl, also engineers make great fucking money btw, talking about $75-80,000 a year starting salary

Plasmaster09 · Feb 17, 2021

aadz93 said:
i hate the assumption that all "nerds" are 5ft 8, and weigh 250 pounds,or are generally unattractive, and have anxiey/social issues, you'd be suprised what kind of life most actually live...irl, also engineers make great fucking money btw, talking about $75-80,000 a year starting salary

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as it turns out, in a world upheld by machines, the ones that know how to mess with them are significantly better off than the assholes that treat said knowledge like a bad thing, a waste or "not having a life"

Deleted member 668561 · Feb 17, 2021

Plasmaster09 said:
as it turns out, in a world upheld by machines, the ones that know how to mess with them are significantly better off than the assholes that treat said knowledge like a bad thing, a waste or "not having a life"

the best thing about engineering, it's not just computers! doesn't even matter what field if you're an engineer in honestly , automotive, electrical, mechanical, experimental (physics), computer, architectural, chemical

Julie_Pilgrim · Feb 17, 2021

ital said:
Yawn! People who say things like that are as bad as this:

https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/...stall-emulators-raspberry-pi-never-shut-fuck/

People who are buying these aren't buying them because they think "Hey, I wonder if I could build a PC for cheaper?". Its not aimed at people who think like that (ie super nerds) but at casuals, lapsed gamers and people who actually have a life.

For me the form factor, ease of use and relative power to price ratio in an off the shelf unit is the appeal as it could become the new Shield TV as the set top box area lags behind in power whilst gimmicky handhelds are getting ramped up like crazy.

Or, I suppose, I could wonder if I could build a PC cheaper. And complain about sharp knees. Whilst looking like an IRL version of Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons.

Jesus Christ man, I was just wondering, no need to be an ass, it's not like I was going "um, actually you're a fucking idiot because you could just build a pc for cheaper"

Zhongtiao1 · Feb 17, 2021

aadz93 said:
ALWAYS, you just pay the cost of parts

Actually, you can't if you buy completely new due to the extra cost of RAM, nvme, and the case.

And don't give the "just buy used" argument because that adds in a higher failure rate that you wouldn't get from a VCS

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aadz93 said:
the best thing about engineering, it's not just computers! doesn't even matter what field if you're an engineer in honestly , automotive, electrical, mechanical, experimental (physics), computer, architectural, chemical

Petroleum engineers have the highest starting salary of any job. Chemical engineers are second.

Deleted member 668561 · Feb 17, 2021

Zhongtiao1 said:
Actually, you can't if you buy completely new due to the extra cost of RAM, nvme, and the case.
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you can pay double the cost of a gaming console, and get a desktop that'll easily last 10+ years, plus you can always upgrade a desktop, as consoles don't really do upgrades (hardware expansions) anymore, you're stuck with what you paid for on day 1, then have to buy another console 3-5 years later and pay it all over again

my desktop is 10 years old ( in sig), over time i added upgrades as needed/wanted

Zhongtiao1 · Feb 17, 2021

aadz93 said:
you can pay double the cost of a gaming console, and get a desktop that'll easily last 10+ years, plus you can always upgrade a desktop, as consoles don't really do upgrades (hardware expansions) anymore, you're stuck with what you paid for on day 1, then have to buy another console 3-5 years later and pay it all over again

my desktop is 10 years old ( in sig), over time i added upgrades as needed/wanted

Definitely, but I'm not talking about paying double the price. I'm talking about paying the same price. Also, you CAN upgrade the RAM, wifi card, and storage on the VCS. The only thing you can't upgrade is the CPU.

Julie_Pilgrim · Feb 17, 2021

Zhongtiao1 said:
you CAN upgrade the RAM, wifi card, and storage on the VCS.

Wait, really? That's actually pretty cool

Zhongtiao1 · Feb 17, 2021

Scott_pilgrim said:
Wait, really? That's actually pretty cool

Yup, It supports up to 32GB DDR4 and up to a 4TB M.2 internal.

djpannda · Feb 17, 2021

Zhongtiao1 said:
Yup, It supports up to 32GB DDR4 and up to a 4TB M.2 internal.

thats dif overkill for a round of "Combat"

Julie_Pilgrim · Feb 17, 2021

Zhongtiao1 said:
Yup, It supports up to 32GB DDR4 and up to a 4TB M.2 internal.

Now I can run pac man for the 2600 at 4K 120 fps

Deleted member 668561 · Feb 17, 2021

Zhongtiao1 said:
Definitely, but I'm not talking about paying double the price. I'm talking about paying the same price. Also, you CAN upgrade the RAM, wifi card, and storage on the VCS. The only thing you can't upgrade is the CPU.

Spend $150 -$200 more and you can just build a desktop that will outperform

Still the vcs is a disappointment, you gotta think in ways atari invented the game console,and lsi "graphics" chips, rip jay miner.

Now they're just kinda like dell or gateway (remember those?)

It seems like they mainly want to cash on what they were instead of trying to actually make a comeback and re-expand the brand , though custom hardware isn't cheap by all means, not for what's left of atari, they dont have the capital to be able to make custom silicon like back in their heyday

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Scott_pilgrim said:
Now I can run pac man for the 2600 at 4K 120 fps

Pfft you can run that at 10k at frame rates comparable to a high-speed camera

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Also its an atari Amiga, and commodore ST

Deleted User · Feb 23, 2021

I do not understand that previous post about SNES Classic... Is not the same scenario as VCS, I mean, this one is kind of a brand new console platform, those classic/mini revivals are just for emulation, and I do believe they are better than a RaspberryPi with a collaborative distro because you do not need to do anything, just plug it on your TV and enjoy.

Do not get me wrong, I know there are a few reasons to spend 399 on this console, but emulation is not one of them, there are better options and again, this one does worst about emulation and gaming than Series S, the only good thing is to use it as a htpc but its performance is not that good if you do not spend on it and if you invest to upgrade it... you may rather spend that budget on a way better rig...

Well, I am nobody to criticize or talk about what you may do with your money, I am just sharing my opinion because I wanted one but is not as good as I thought and is to expensive for what it does :/ For gaming and emulation I do rather spend 299 on Series S... it has a better CPU, GPU, SSD, RAM and a better build controller with a TypeC port, more and better games... you cannot install OtherOS but you can emulate stuff on DevMode. If you are not an Atari dude there is no reason to get it... and if you want a CVS as a htpc... with the ¿600? bucks you will spend on the console plus upgrades... you could build a better rig. This console is just nonsense :/

PS: The vibes I get when I read that this weak low performance ass Atari can handle 32GBs RAM and 4TB M.2 SATA is the same than those folks that get an old cheap ass Pontiac to spend cash and time trying to fixing it because "it look badass" when, in reality, with a fraction of that efford they could afford a Honda Civic or a Ford Mustang in great condition. I just cannot compute it, jajaja. I wondering what you can do with 32GiB with that wussy embedded Ryzen, play Fordnite at 720ṕ/30fps? Emulate Nintendo Wii at 1080p? It is just nonsense, I have nothing against it, as I said: is not my money neither my time.

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