New NieR Replicant trailer offers a look at its improved graphics and remastered soundtrack

Silent_Gunner · Feb 13, 2021

Jayro said:
But... It was the dude in white... We eventually went to a weird colorless area too

Did you make it to Ending E? Otherwise, you haven't actually made it to the True Ending of a Yoko Taro game!

Hells Malice · Feb 13, 2021

masagrator said:
"Real NieR" has this boy. Your preferences doesn't matter. Gestalt was released with changed main character to "please Western audience". Game was originally made with brother in mind.

And my guess is that someone will make a mod for PC bringing father with old voice lines.

Real Nier is father Nier, your preferences doesn't matter.

It hurt me to break the English language like that but I had to do it.
If you enjoy looking at little boys, more power to ya. Real Nier = dad Nier.

Jayro · Feb 13, 2021

Silent_Gunner said:
Did you make it to Ending E? Otherwise, you haven't actually made it to the True Ending of a Yoko Taro game!

Nah, I beat it once, and called it quits.

osaka35 · Feb 13, 2021

Edgarska said:
That's more of a problem of publishers not using correct terminology then.
If it's the exact same game but only rendered at higher resolution/frame rate, then it's just a port.
Remasters are generally the same game in the same engine but with updated assets and sometimes extra content.
A remake means "making it again", usually in a newer engine but not necessarily.

So for example, the Gamecube version of Ocarina of Time was a port, the Wii U version of Twilight Princess was a remaster, the 3DS version of Ocarina of Time was a remake.

and reimagining is where the content/story/mechanics/tone/characterization have gone through enough changes it would costitute a different game. As if the game was put back into the development cycle almost back to the story board or game mechanic development stage. this is where I'd put games like "FF7 remake".

Foxi4 · Feb 13, 2021

D34DL1N3R said:
"Knowing that". Ummm. What exactly did you know? Obviously not the fact that minus some dialog and music tracks, Replicant and Gestalt/NieR are identical.

Tell that to people who routinely buy both/all three Pokemon games every year.

Cyan · Feb 13, 2021

I never played any nier games (only the automata demo), so I think I'll buy and play both this year

edit:
I like remakes, or at least even "bundles" to release all games on the same console, even without HD remake or remaster or anything, just being able to enjoy a full series without buying old consoles or using emulators.
So, even if I'm dreaming of a proper ending which was cut on first release, next game series I'd like to see on same console : Legacy of kain & Soul Reaver.
Crystal dynamics, right? so SQEX, right? One compilation with all games please

I think a remaster would be highly needed, seeing some games have PS1 graphics/3D/Textures.

Square Enix, if you read this....

Foxi4 · Feb 13, 2021

I still find it amazing that the entire franchise is just a continuation of one of the Drakengard's endings. I should really do a deep dive into that series as well, just to get the full picture. It's an interesting exercise in building upon timelines without fully committing to a specific canon.

Silent_Gunner · Feb 13, 2021

Foxi4 said:
I still find it amazing that the entire franchise is just a continuation of one of the Drakengard's endings. I should really do a deep dive into that series as well, just to get the full picture. It's an interesting exercise in building upon timelines without fully committing to a specific canon.

Just know that Drakengard 2 wasn't made by Taro himself, and doesn't connect with any of the other games!

Still, I've seen the hack and slash in Drakengard 1, and it I remember Dynasty Warriors and hell, even that Berserk game on the DC not being so simplistic.

Cyan · Feb 13, 2021

Foxi4 said:
the entire franchise is just a continuation of one of the Drakengard's endings

Oh, I didn't know that game series, I guess I need to play more games than I thought this year

PS2/PS3/PS4 ... no bundles either.

At least, it seems Nier is a standalone series and enough to play without knowing the prequel's characters or story.

Silent_Gunner · Feb 13, 2021

Cyan said:
Oh, I didn't know that game, I guess I need to play more games than I thought this year

Eh, you don't have to play Drakengard 1 to play Nier. All you really need to know is that the aftereffects of the final battle of the former's true ending leads to the world in Nier, which eventually leads to the world in Nier Automata. And even then, while they are "connected," there's a reason I put connected in quotes; they're connected about as well or as consistently as Xenogears is to Xenosaga; sure, there's references, callbacks, and thematic similarities, but expecting the puzzle pieces to fit together nice and clean is about as unrealistic as Xenogears, Chrono Trigger, Parasite Eve, or basically any of those classic Square RPGs not named Secret of Mana or Final Fantasy any more attention other than a port of the original games here or there. I personally think Xenogears would make for a sick remake, especially if they decided not to cut corners like they did in the original, as I think, had Disc 2 not been rushed like it was, it would have been remembered more fondly, because cool stuff happens in Disc 2...it's just that a lot of it is us the players being told about what's happening as opposed to having it shown or experiencing it like the majority of the story on Disc 1.

Foxi4 · Feb 13, 2021

Cyan said:
Oh, I didn't know that game, I guess I need to play more games than I thought this year PS2/PS3/PS4 ... no bundles either.

To be fair, the connection between the two realities kind of pops out of nowhere. Most of the team didn't even know what the "E" ending was until very late in development and allegedly hated it once they saw it. I assume that's why it was put in the game so late - so that there was no time to alter it before the product ships. Clever director is clever.

Cyan · Feb 13, 2021

Thank you.
(Drakengar spoiler on next line

)
I just read the true ending of dragenkar is about humanity being decimated by a virus, and this is the premise to Nier's world.

Oh, I'd love a xenogears with proper disc2, even if they still own the license, the original developers left to create Monolith, and I doubt sqex would work on the missing part

(same as dreaming for Soul reaver proper missing ending being done on a remake)

proffk · Feb 13, 2021

I remember this game has multiple endings. There is a character I think the one with that head who sells you stuff in automata is in this game as a npc sidekick.

D34DL1N3R · Feb 13, 2021

Foxi4 said:
Tell that to people who routinely buy both/all three Pokemon games every year.

Hmmmmm. I wasn't aware this was about Pokemon. Almost seems like there's some Trumper style deflection going on. Yes, if I didn't know any better I would say that's what transpired here.

Foxi4 · Feb 13, 2021

D34DL1N3R said:
Hmmmmm. I wasn't aware this was about Pokemon. Almost seems like there's some Trumper style deflection going on. Yes, if I didn't know any better I would say that's what transpired here.

If you're having a bit of a tantrum based on the fact that I'm an open Trump supporter, keep it in the dedicated political thread. The fact that you're even bringing it up at all in an unrelated conversation is pretty cringe - I'm not ashamed of my political beliefs, but they have nothing to do with Nier. More to the topic, most Pokemon games are objectively identical story-wise and the only difference between them is the roster of Pokemon available to catch. This is an apt comparison - there are differences between Gestalt and Replicant, except here you actually have different dialogue and a different protagonist, which does change the experience. If I want to experience both versions on Nier based on those differences, that's my business. Mindblowing, I know.

D34DL1N3R · Feb 13, 2021

Foxi4 said:
If you're having a bit of a tantrum based on the fact that I'm an open Trump supporter, keep it in the dedicated political thread. The fact that you're even bringing it up at all in an unrelated conversation is pretty cringe - I'm not ashamed of my political beliefs, but they have nothing to do with Nier. More to the topic, most Pokemon games are objectively identical story-wise and the only difference between them is the roster of Pokemon available to catch. This is an apt comparison - there are differences between Gestalt and Replicant, except here you actually have different dialogue and a different protagonist, which does change the experience. If I want to experience both versions on Nier based on those differences, that's my business. Mindblowing, I know.

Another good tactic. How many times can you do it in the same topic? Wanna go for a third? Changing the goal posts where you see fit. Your comparisons are apt while others are not. Same old, same old, dude.

Pokemon has nothing to do with NieR. Mindblowing. I know.

AbyssalMonkey · Feb 13, 2021

I find that it's just a shame people won't boot the game into the best voice lines the game has. What a magnificent character Kaine is.

Delerious · Feb 14, 2021

Deep down, all any of us wants is to hear Laura Bailey cursing again.

Deleted member 514389 · Feb 14, 2021

Ah, I see. SE still on it with their usual 'Switch Omission™" strategy.

Maybe I should change my sig to something anti-SE.

T-possum · Feb 15, 2021

anyway, i wonder if nier is literally an adventure time game...

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