Hacking Opening USBLoader GX sends back to wii menu

Stalzak · Feb 10, 2021

Hi y'all!

I'm helping out with some wii hacking, but we can't figure out what's the issue by now. We completed a setup using wii.guide, and now USBLoader GX straight up refuses to boot, and instead sends back automatically to the menu before even displaying anything. Note that when we used a drive on the wrong port, we had at least a usb device initialization error.

We're trying to load from a NTFS usb, at first using an usb stick but the problem still exists now with a dedicated HDD.

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition par JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, et Nano
...tourne sous l'IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: PAL
Menu Systeme 4.3E (v514)
Priiloader installe
Date de disque: 02.13.2007
Chaine Channel 1.1.2 utilise IOS58

Hollywood v0x11
Identifiant de la console: 71061054
Type de Console: Wii
Pays de la chaine boutique: France (77)
Boot2 v4
82 titres trouves.
46 IOS trouves sur cette console. 15 sont des stubs.

IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): Pas de patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
IOS12 (rev 526): Pas de patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): Pas de patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): Pas de patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): Pas de patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): Pas de patches
IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
IOS21 (rev 1039): Pas de patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): Pas de patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): Pas de patches
IOS30 (rev 2816): Stub
IOS31 (rev 3608): Pas de patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): Pas de patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): Pas de patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): Pas de patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): Pas de patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): Pas de patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): Pas de patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): Pas de patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): Pas de patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): Pas de patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): Pas de patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): Pas de patches
IOS50 (rev 5120): Stub
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): Pas de patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): Pas de patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): Pas de patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): Pas de patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 6400): Stub
IOS61 (rev 5662): Pas de patches
IOS70 (rev 6912): Stub
IOS80 (rev 6944): Pas de patches
IOS222 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS223 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS249[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, Acces NAND, USB 2.0
IOS250[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, Acces NAND, USB 2.0
IOS251[38] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Acces NAND
IOS254 (rev 65280): Stub
BC v6
MIOS v10
Rapport genere le 2021/02/10.

Cheers!

Alexander1970 · Feb 10, 2021

Hello.

Stalzak said:
Hi y'all!

I'm helping out with some wii hacking, but we can't figure out what's the issue by now. We completed a setup using wii.guide, and now USBLoader GX straight up refuses to boot, and instead sends back automatically to the menu before even displaying anything. Note that when we used a drive on the wrong port, we had at least a usb device initialization error.

We're trying to load from a NTFS usb, at first using an usb stick but the problem still exists now with a dedicated HDD.

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition par JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, et Nano
...tourne sous l'IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: PAL
Menu Systeme 4.3E (v514)
Priiloader installe
Date de disque: 02.13.2007
Chaine Channel 1.1.2 utilise IOS58

Hollywood v0x11
Identifiant de la console: 71061054
Type de Console: Wii
Pays de la chaine boutique: France (77)
Boot2 v4
82 titres trouves.
46 IOS trouves sur cette console. 15 sont des stubs.

IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): Pas de patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
IOS12 (rev 526): Pas de patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): Pas de patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): Pas de patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): Pas de patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): Pas de patches
IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
IOS21 (rev 1039): Pas de patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): Pas de patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): Pas de patches
IOS30 (rev 2816): Stub
IOS31 (rev 3608): Pas de patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): Pas de patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): Pas de patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): Pas de patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): Pas de patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): Pas de patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): Pas de patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): Pas de patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): Pas de patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): Pas de patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): Pas de patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): Pas de patches
IOS50 (rev 5120): Stub
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): Pas de patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): Pas de patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): Pas de patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): Pas de patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 6400): Stub
IOS61 (rev 5662): Pas de patches
IOS70 (rev 6912): Stub
IOS80 (rev 6944): Pas de patches
IOS222 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS223 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS249[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, Acces NAND, USB 2.0
IOS250[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, Acces NAND, USB 2.0
IOS251[38] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Acces NAND
IOS254 (rev 65280): Stub
BC v6
MIOS v10
Rapport genere le 2021/02/10.

Cheers!

Thank you for your sysCheck,it is good and ok.

To understand you correct:

- The USBLoader GX itself (which Version do you have please ?) did not boot up ?
or
- When you boot/start a Wii Game it throws you back to the Wii Menu ?

Thank you for your Help.

Stalzak · Feb 10, 2021

Hi there! Thanks for your quick reply

As you say in your first option, it's USBLoader GX itself which doesn't start up in the first place!
We installed it using the instructions on wii.guide/usbloadergx (which... i assume installs the latest version despite it not being the forwarder? install files say 3.0 r1272 atm for what it's worth).
Meaning, we try to launch USBLoader GX from the Homebrew Channel, and launching it sends us back to the wii menu directly for some reason.

blackb0x · Feb 10, 2021

Stalzak said:
We're trying to load from a NTFS usb, at first using an usb stick but the problem still exists now with a dedicated HDD.

It works best when using FAT32 with a 32KB (32768) cluster size. You can use something like GUIFormat to easily format to it.

My version of the USB Loader GX does have better NTFS support, but I'd still recommend using FAT32.

Stalzak · Feb 10, 2021

Yep, we initially tried with a FAT32 format, but since we were planning on using a particular rip of conveniently slightly more than 4Go for testing purposes the size limit forced us to switch to NTFS in order to put the iso on the drive. I did not know of your fork tho, I'll be sure to take a look at it!

blackb0x · Feb 10, 2021

@Stalzak If you use Wii Backup Manager then all games will fit onto it correctly, even with the 4GB limit.

Stalzak · Feb 11, 2021

Okay, so uh. There was some miscommunication between the two of us, and apparently it's not sending directly to the Wii menu, we just... confused USBLoader GX's default interface with the Wii menu's one. I don't know how to feel about that, for personal reasons i'll choose to see this mix-up as hilarious.

Well, as long as we're here- we're now seeing that USBLoader GX reads the usb drive correctly, booting up and registering the correct used size and whatnots, but it only displays file systems (wii channel and such) and no games. Currently the drive is using FAT32 with 32k clusters, we used WBM to transfer two files- an iso of Skyward Sword, and later a WBFS file of Animal Crossing for testing purposes. Adding the second one didn't increase the game count on USBLoader GX, and apparently SS's iso was converted into wbfs at some point as well? We checked checksums just in case, but so far we don't know why USBLoader GX doesn't display those games. Any ideas?

KeinesR · Feb 11, 2021

Try using wiiflow lite, in my experience, wiiflow lite works very well, more than usb loader gx, it detects fat32 partitions, ntfs, and sd cards, even detects partitioned drive.

I have an external hdd with 2 partitions, one fat32 with 750gb and 1 ntfs partition with 2tb and works very well.

Try first with wiiflow lite, if it doesn't work, then try make 2 partitions on the drive, remember to make the fat32 partition active and primary.

blackb0x · Feb 11, 2021

Stalzak said:
Well, as long as we're here- we're now seeing that USBLoader GX reads the usb drive correctly, booting up and registering the correct used size and whatnots, but it only displays file systems (wii channel and such) and no games

Check that USB Loader GX is set to display the games.

Another possibility is that you're using an older GXGlobal.cfg file, so the paths might be wrong. Delete it and then boot USB Loader GX again.

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