Joe Biden is now officially the 46th President of the United States of America

Kurt91 · Jan 28, 2021

No, Valwinz is correct. It is specifically written in the Constitution that Washington D.C. is not and cannot be a separate state. Quoted from Time.com...

But the lack of statehood for the capital is enshrined in the Constitution. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 of the document reads, “The Congress shall have Power To …exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States.”

James Madison outlined the reasoning behind this provision in Federalist 43, calling the arrangement an “indispensable necessity.” He wrote, “The indispensable necessity of complete authority at the seat of government, carries its own evidence with it… Without it, not only the public authority might be insulted and its proceedings interrupted with impunity; but a dependence of the members of the general government on the State comprehending the seat of the government, for protection in the exercise of their duty, might bring on the national councils an imputation of awe or influence, equally dishonorable to the government and dissatisfactory to the other members of the Confederacy.”

In other words, the founders worried that if the capital were to be a state, the members of the government would be unduly beholden to it. Madison envisioned that voting members of a D.C. state would be able to ‘insult’ or ‘interrupt’ the proceedings of government to get their way, simply by virtue of physical proximity to the halls of power.

Source: https://time.com/4296175/washington-dc-statehood-history/

So, if I understand the article correctly, they made sure that the capital of the country was not in any specific state because that state would therefore have more authority than all of the others. D.C. being a separate state would also give the local state-level government the ability to attempt to interfere with federal government. It's not a perfect solution, as while D.C. does have representation in the Electoral College, it does not have representation in Congress as each member of Congress represents their home state.

Plasmaster09 · Jan 28, 2021

Kurt91 said:
No, Valwinz is correct. It is specifically written in the Constitution that Washington D.C. is not and cannot be a separate state. Quoted from Time.com...

Source: https://time.com/4296175/washington-dc-statehood-history/

Aw, shit. Well, hopefully an amendment will be possible.

Kurt91 · Jan 28, 2021

Edited my post for clarification as to reasoning.

Valwinz · Jan 28, 2021

Kurt91 said:
No, Valwinz is correct. It is specifically written in the Constitution that Washington D.C. is not and cannot be a separate state. Quoted from Time.com...

Source: https://time.com/4296175/washington-dc-statehood-history/

So, if I understand the article correctly, they made sure that the capital of the country was not in any specific state because that state would therefore have more authority than all of the others. D.C. being a separate state would also give the local state-level government the ability to attempt to interfere with federal government. It's not a perfect solution, as while D.C. does have representation in the Electoral College, it does not have representation in Congress as each member of Congress represents their home state.

Feels good

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Hanafuda · Jan 28, 2021

Not only is Washington D.C. not eligible to become an independent state, but if the federal government ever decided it wanted to move the federal district (i.e. capital) to another location (not likely to ever happen, but just hypothetically), the land which makes up Washington D.C. would revert back to Maryland. (This did happen once, in 1846, when the land ceded for the district by Virginia was returned. Washington D.C. was originally intended to be a square.

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Viri · Jan 30, 2021

Where the hell are our 2 grand checks?!

KingVamp · Jan 30, 2021

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If Federal land can be turned back into territory for a State, there's no reason that same land can't become a state in itself.

omgcat · Jan 30, 2021

Viri said:
Where the hell are our 2 grand checks?!

ask the republicans, they're the ones blocking shit in congress. we'll probably have to nuke the filibuster if we don't want a repeat of republican obstructionism.

Valwinz · Jan 30, 2021

omgcat said:
ask the republicans, they're the ones blocking shit in congress. we'll probably have to nuke the filibuster if we don't want a repeat of republican obstructionism.

Biden is in control lol what with the excuses HAHAHAHAH

WHere is my Money Joe

Darth Meteos · Feb 1, 2021

Valwinz said:
Biden is in control lol what with the excuses HAHAHAHAH

WHere is my Money Joe

Biden lied. Biden lied big time. Whatta load of shit.

Now they're fearmongering about Iran. This isn't gonna go well.

IncredulousP · Feb 1, 2021

Darth Meteos said:
Biden lied. Biden lied big time. Whatta load of shit.

Now they're fearmongering about Iran. This isn't gonna go well.

Context for the uninitiated?

Lacius · Feb 1, 2021

Valwinz said:
Biden is in control lol what with the excuses HAHAHAHAH

WHere is my Money Joe

Biden is in control of only one of three branches of government.
Democrats control the House.
Republicans control the Supreme Court.
Democrats have a slim majority in the Senate (50 plus Kamala Harris), but Republicans still have the filibuster as an option, making 10 Republican votes required to pass major pieces of legislation that don't go through reconciliation.

No, Biden is not "in control." He's not a monarch.

Doran754 · Feb 1, 2021

Lacius said:
Biden is in control of only one of three branches of government.

Democrats control the House.

Republicans control the Supreme Court.

Democrats have a slim majority in the Senate (50 plus Kamala Harris), but Republicans still have the filibuster as an option, making 10 Republican votes required to pass major pieces of legislation that don't go through reconciliation.

No, Biden is not "in control." He's not a monarch.

But he is a dictator. CNN taught me the POTUS is a dictator for the last 4 years.

Lacius · Feb 1, 2021

shamzie said:
CNN taught me the president is a dictator. It's that simple. Thanks for the compliment though *lets unite*

They taught you Trump has fascist tendencies and glorifies dictators. They did not teach you "POTUS is a dictator."

Xzi · Feb 1, 2021

shamzie said:
Wow. Care too teach me those amazing mind reading abilities you have

Sure. If it goose steps like a fascist and tries to violently overturn election results like a fascist, it's probably a fascist. Really more Occam's Razor than a mind reading technique though.

Valwinz · Feb 2, 2021

Where is my 2k Joe

Has a president lie so much on their first month than Biejin Biden?

the best part it seems his voters mad in Twitter is delicious

Lacius · Feb 2, 2021

Valwinz said:
Where is my 2k Joe

Has a president lie so much on their first month than Biejin Biden?

the best part it seems his voters mad in Twitter is delicious

Joe Biden is working on $1,400 stimulus checks, which is what was promised in conjunction with $600. You've been told this, but you seem to care more about spewing nonsense than listening.

It's the Republicans who are trying to obstruct and bring that down.

Valwinz · Feb 2, 2021

Lacius said:
Joe Biden is working on $1,400 stimulus checks, which is what was promised in conjunction with $600. You've been told this, but you seem to care more about spewing nonsense than listening.

It's the Republicans who are trying to obstruct and bring that down.

where is my 2000 joe

tabzer · Feb 2, 2021

Xzi said:
If it goose steps like a fascist and tries to violently overturn election results like a fascist, it's probably a fascist.

There is less evidence of any of that than there is of widespread election fraud.

Joe Biden is now officially the 46th President of the United States of America

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