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Joe Biden is now officially the 46th President of the United States of America

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Biden does not "control everything." He is the executive branch, and Republicans can potentially use the filibuster in half of the legislative branch.
In all fairness, the last three presidencies are now characterised by large swathes of executive action. Obama signed a bunch of EO's, Trump came in, undid a bunch of them and signed loads of his own, and on the first day in office Biden undid a bunch of Trump's while adding a load of his own. I'm surprised that Congress isn't crying executive overreach at this stage, the office of the presidency has been usurping the power of the legislature for nigh on two decades now.
 
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In all fairness, the last three presidencies are now characterised by large swathes of Executive action. Obama signed a bunch of EO's, Trump came in, undid a bunch of them and signed loads of his own, and on the first day in office Biden undid a bunch of Trump's while adding a load of his own. I'm surprised that Congress isn't crying Executive overreach at this stage, the office of the Presidency has been usurping the power of the legislature for nigh on two decades now.
I'm not saying Biden can't/hasn't used executive action to unilaterally accomplish certain goals, but he doesn't have unlimited power. He doesn't "control everything." He can't use executive orders to mail out $1,400 stimulus checks.
 

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I'm not saying Biden can't/hasn't used executive action to unilaterally accomplish certain goals, but he doesn't have unlimited power. He doesn't "control everything." He can't use executive orders to mail out $1,400 stimulus checks.
Technically he can, if he chooses to announce a national emergency on the grounds of the pandemic making people destitute. He does have the power to divert funds from one branch to another, for whatever purpose, just as Trump did by diverting funds from the military towards wall construction. He doesn't need congressional approval, and the state of the economy is poor, so I can't say it would be completely unreasonable. I can see a scenario wherein funds are diverted from, say, the military, towards social safety nets and direct support. You could make the case that it's necessary to quel civil unrest and improve national security, which is in a dire state, as evidenced by riots.
 

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Technically he can, if he chooses to announce a national emergency on the grounds of the pandemic making people destitute. He does have the power to divert funds from one branch to another, for whatever purpose, just as Trump has by diverting money from the military towards wall construction. He doesn't need congressional approval, and the state of the economy is dire, so I can't say it would be completely unreasonable. I can see a scenario wherein funds are diverted from, say, the military, towards social safety nets and direct support.
Potentially. I disagree, and it would be a matter for the courts to resolve regardless. Biden understandably only wants to use executive action where there's already precedent.
 

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Potentially. I disagree, and it would be a matter for the courts to resolve regardless. Biden understandably only wants to use executive action where there's already precedent.
Simply pointing out an avenue. I agree that it would be disconcerting as under that interpretation the president effectively has dictatorial power over all other branches of government with zero oversight, but that's what executive action is accelerating towards - it's a noticeable trend that both sides dabble in.
 

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I would say that correlation is worthless unless you have the ability to find evidence and present it in a way that is compelling.

Well yes and no. While my resources and credentials are limited, pointing out correlation to someone who is in the position to investigate should be enough evidence to compel someone whose interest is potentially at stake. Correlation does not imply causation, but that does not mean it should be ignored. Contrarily, it is often the founding evidence of any useful inquiry or working theory. Having correlations explained away with anecdotal responses, shut down with platitudes, or dismissed altogether is anti-scientific and vilifies natural human curiosity.
 

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Well yes and no. While my resources and credentials are limited, pointing out correlation to someone who is in the position to investigate should be enough evidence to compel someone whose interest is potentially at stake. Correlation does not imply causation, but that does not mean it should be ignored. Contrarily, it is often the founding evidence of any useful inquiry or working theory. Having correlations explained away with anecdotal responses, shut down with platitudes, or dismissed altogether is anti-scientific and vilifies natural human curiosity.
Accepting scientific claims without any sort of scientific evidence to support them is what's anti-scientific, by definition.
 

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Accepting scientific claims without any sort of scientific evidence to support them is what's anti-scientific, by definition.
Accepting government claims without questioning them and taking everything they say as truth is idiotic and scary that your side can think that way. Lack of proof doesn't disprove
 

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Accepting government claims without questioning them and taking everything they say as truth is idiotic and scary that your side can think that way. Lack of proof doesn't disprove
I don't accept "government claims" without questioning them. I accept claims when there's evidence to support them.
 

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Simply pointing out an avenue. I agree that it would be disconcerting as under that interpretation the president effectively has dictatorial power over all other branches of government with zero oversight, but that's what executive action is accelerating towards - it's a noticeable trend that both sides dabble in.
well you know who to blame the damn GOP they want us dems either dead or dying (which i feel the opposite is true the republicans who are ignoring mask mandates and becoming super spreaders are the most ones dead or dying if only we can find out the deceased political affiliation pretty sure more from the right are dying or even contracting covid more than the left who are more likely to abide by the mandates
 

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Always err on the side of Mickey Mouse.
Panic is rarely advisible. :P
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well you know who to blame the damn GOP they want us dems either dead or dying
fascists are not operating on the same ethical wavelength as everyone else
they need to be removed, not to censor them, but because they are a scourge of mankind
 

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LOL I find it funny that people are afraid of a flu.

Been living with Chrons for the last 21 Years, I promise you the Morona is a joke in comparison to what most chronically ill peoples health-problems.

Already had the corona and it was a joke, would rather have it another 10000 times if my intestions went back to working like a normal humans.
Tell that to the over 400,000 Americans who have died
 

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Lack of proof doesn't disprove
It doesn't prove either. Having no proof is not a positive, it's a negative. Creationist Fallacy.

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Shale gas is, objectively speaking, the cleanest fossil fuel. Burning it releases 45% less carbon dioxide, 75% less nitrogen oxide, nearly no sulfur dioxide, carbon monoxide, black carbon and particulates or mercury. The concerns in regards to fracking are centered around the accidental release of methane during the extraction process, but that can be limited with proper procedures.
Ok, but 45% less carbon dioxide is still a lot of carbon dioxide if it were to be done on an industrial level. It's still bad.

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that can be handled by adding certain types of seaweed to the cattle feed, reducing methane emissions by 30-98% depending on the breed of cattle.
More info? This is news to me.
 

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It doesn't prove either. Having no proof is not a positive, it's a negative. Creationist Fallacy.
Having no proof when your not allowed to physically test it on your own should raise questions and does merit a completely different type of proof.
 

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How does anyone 'physically test it'?
One of the demands from the Republican side was allowing for the examination of the voting machines and their software to ensure that they were set up correctly and never tampered with. To my knowledge they were never allowed to do so (although I will happily accept any source that proves they were as I'm not sure myself), we only saw re-counts of physical ballots, which is not what was requested. Not that it matters post-inauguration anyway.
 
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One of the demands from the Republican side was allowing for the examination of the voting machines and their software to ensure that they were set up correctly and never tampered with. To my knowledge they were never allowed to do so (although I will happily accept any source that proves they were as I'm not sure myself), we only saw re-counts of physical ballots, which is not what was requested. Not that it matters post-inauguration anyway.

Military is in control and the Biden presidency is just a fake reality show, didn't you hear?

Meanwhile, I'm waiting for my scientific proof of fair and equal elections that I am supposed to believe in.
 

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Having no proof when your not allowed to physically test it on your own should raise questions and does merit a completely different type of proof.
One of the demands from the Republican side was allowing for the examination of the voting machines and their software to ensure that they were set up correctly and never tampered with. To my knowledge they were never allowed to do so (although I will happily accept any source that proves they were as I'm not sure myself), we only saw re-counts of physical ballots, which is not what was requested. Not that it matters post-inauguration anyway.
The paper votes generated by the machines were hand-counted, and the results comported with what the machine votes tallied. There was no fraud.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/12/audit-in-michigan-county-refutes-dominion-conspiracy-theory/

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9847904839

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Joe "Don't know what im signing" Biden

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Someone dies from heart attack.
Hospital "yep, that's a covid!"
[Hospital pockets money]
There's no evidence Joe Biden doesn't know what he's signing, and considering what he's signing comports with what he publicly said he'd sign, there's evidence he does know what he's signing.

There's no evidence of widespread COVID-19 death misreporting.

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Military is in control and the Biden presidency is just a fake reality show, didn't you hear?

Meanwhile, I'm waiting for my scientific proof of fair and equal elections that I am supposed to believe in.
See my post above for the partial evidence of a fair and secure election, and there's more evidence publicly available to you.

It also demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the burden of proof to say you believe widespread voter fraud "probably" happened until you have evidence to the contrary. It's idiotic and conspiratorial to believe in widespread voter fraud any time before evidence is presented of widespread voter fraud.
 
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