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Joe Biden is now officially the 46th President of the United States of America

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Lacius

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The subject is how correlation relates to evidence and you ignore both to sound big brained. What kind of beast are you?
Vaccines don't cause autism. The shrinking number of pirates doesn't cause global warming. As far as you know, vaccines didn't kill 29 people in Norway. As I've said to you a thousand times already, come back when you have some evidence, and learn how logical fallacies work.
 

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1400 =/= 2000! Those people running in Georgia said we'd be getting 2 grand if they were voted in, they were voted in.
There is some argument about which one is going to happen, as some folks said 2000 and meant different things by it. Biden eventually settled on the 2000 that is actually 1400 but we'll see. It's a bit messed up to me as well. Since we probably won't see it till march or so either way, that extra few months of separation definitely shows how disingenuous that "2000" claim was.

And the senate is split 50/50, so only some things can be tie breaked by the vice president. Some things require 60/40 votes or more. And the republicans can still filibuster. So...democrats are certainly going to try their best to get aid to the american people. Just pay attention to who votes for what.
 
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As it's not know whether the current vaccines stop you spreading the existing strains, then I don't think you can expect it to work on new strains. Especially when there are reports the current vaccines only have 50% efficancy
BS?

They (likely) do stop you spreading existing strains (they are designed to work against). Partly because of the potentially lower efficiancy on new strains, the other thing is also true.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/does-g...ading-it-scientists-dont-know-yet-11610989882

edit: https://www.healthline.com/health-n...covid-19-after-getting-a-vaccine-what-to-know

https://web.archive.org/web/2021010...com/2020/12/08/health/covid-vaccine-mask.html
 
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Are we really gonna talk about 'but muh election fraud' again? Really people? I thought that shit had gone past its use by date now.
I never said that was just talking about how he spits shit out like he is reading from a God damn government approved answer sheet God damn democrats just hear/read what ever they want just insert words here and there.
 

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I never said that was just talking about how he spits shit out like he is reading from a God damn government approved answer sheet God damn democrats just hear/read what ever they want just insert words here and there.
"There is no evidence of widespread election fraud" is the appropriate response to false claims of widespread election fraud.
 

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There is some argument about which one is going to happen, as some folks said 2000 and meant different things by it. Biden eventually settled on the 2000 that is actually 1400 but we'll see. It's a bit messed up to me as well. Since we probably won't see it till march or so either way, that extra few months of separation definitely shows how disingenuous that "2000" claim was.

And the senate is split 50/50, so only some things can be tie breaked by the vice president. Some things require 60/40 votes or more. And the republicans can still filibuster. So...democrats are certainly going to try their best to get aid to the american people. Just pay attention to who votes for what.
Indeed. AOC wants a new $2000 payment sent out, on top of the $600. And Bernie Sanders has voiced his support of monthly $2000 payments from the beginning of this pandemic. Of course the latter is off the table, even with 51* votes in the Senate guaranteed.

* The Vice President is President of the Senate, and her vote breaks any ties. First time in the country's history the role has had so much power attached AFAIK.
 
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LOL I find it funny that people are afraid of a flu.

Been living with Chrons for the last 21 Years, I promise you the Morona is a joke in comparison to what most chronically ill peoples health-problems.

Already had the corona and it was a joke, would rather have it another 10000 times if my intestions went back to working like a normal humans.
 
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The subject is how correlation relates to evidence and you ignore both to sound big brained. What kind of beast are you?
Correlation isn't evidence and I just want to see you actually make a post with evidence in it. You've gone through two threads now and thus far haven't actually posted anything worth a damn for your arguments. Instead, you've only shifted the burden and just posted comments that sound smart but literally provide nothing of substance.
 

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BS?

They (likely) do stop you spreading existing strains (they are designed to work against). Partly because of the potentially lower efficiancy on new strains, the other thing is also true.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/does-g...ading-it-scientists-dont-know-yet-11610989882

edit: https://www.healthline.com/health-n...covid-19-after-getting-a-vaccine-what-to-know

https://web.archive.org/web/2021010...com/2020/12/08/health/covid-vaccine-mask.html

I'm not sure your point as you say it's BS but then post links that support my argument.

It probably reduces transmission, because the time you are shedding virus is probably shorter as you started killing it quicker but so few people have been vaccinated that it won't make much difference yet. Especially if the people who are vaccinated are vulnerable and have been isolating.

LOL I find it funny that people are afraid of a flu.

Been living with Chrons for the last 21 Years, I promise you the Morona is a joke in comparison to what most chronically ill peoples health-problems.

Already had the corona and it was a joke, would rather have it another 10000 times if my intestions went back to working like a normal humans.

I think you missed the point. Your argument is so flawed it's like you haven't paid attention at all for the last 10 months.

Correlation is evidence that would solicit further investigation,

I would say that correlation is worthless unless you have the ability to find evidence and present it in a way that is compelling.

Otherwise it's as pointless looking for correlation as it is to tell people you're thinking of building a time machine.
 
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I think you missed the point. Your argument is so flawed it's like you haven't paid attention at all for the last 10 months.

I have and I still laugh at your fear.

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You clearly haven't or lack the ability to understand, or you are a troll. It's hard to tell the difference from reading your posts.

Not a troll, been laughing at this for the last year, I am chronically ill since 21 years next week, and I had Corona and it was a joke in comparison which made me laugh at peoples fear even more its nothing serious unless you have serious co-morbidies affecting your lungs or old age and stopping the world for it is beyond stupid.

Now if you are not afraid I applaud you, I laugh at the people wearing masks when driving in their cars alone for example, and no matter the amount of snarky comments from you will make me stop laughing at them and you!
 
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Says the troll. It can still kill you without pre-existing conditions, problem is you don't know until it's too late.

People wear masks when they are in the car alone because you shouldn't keep touching the mask to take it off & presumably they need the mask when they get out.
Sure bro keep telling yourself that, I will keep laughing enjoy your life, peace out
 

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that extra few months of separation definitely shows how disingenuous that "2000" claim was
Welcome to politics. Don't judge a candidate based on their election promises, judge them on their past actions before they were in the presidential race.

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It can still kill you without pre-existing conditions, problem is you don't know until it's too late
I don't know, I'm not too worried about it myself. I've heard about something like 1 case of someone in the 18-25 category dying. All the freak accident deaths seem to be with younger children (that kawasaki-like syndrome that could be linked with COVID-19 in children) or people in their 30s. Not that I disagree with controlling the disease or anything, fully on board with that.
 

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I don't know, I'm not too worried about it myself.

Not that I disagree with controlling the disease or anything, fully on board with that.

I'm not too worried about it myself either, but Mike_Swe seems to be saying that by wanting to control it you must be scared of it to the point that it deserves ridicule.

For the UK this is a list of deaths with no pre-existing conditions.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/tran...stingconditionsanddeathtotalsforthelast5years

Age does make a difference, possibly more than is reflected in the figures as those in the "at risk groups" are probably less exposed to the virus generally.

I've heard about something like 1 case of someone in the 18-25 category dying.

It's probably not a good idea to base your risk assessment on anecdotal evidence. You also shouldn't assume the age of anyone here.
 
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I'm not too worried about it myself either, but Mike_Swe seems to be saying that by wanting to control it you must be scared of it to the point that it deserves ridicule.
Oh yeah. I'm not scared of it, but the hospitals are overcrowded as it is. If we were to let it rip with no vaccine or anything, a lot of the older generation would be seen off, especially considering the little room hospitals did have would go towards all the people in their 40s and 50s that need hospital care, leaving anyone older than that to either get over it on their own or choke to death on their own dead white blood cells. Granted, it'd be over quickly and most of the population wouldn't die; a lot of people with comorbidities and age would still survive, but 500-750k people dead in this country still isn't great.
 
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