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andykara2003 · Jan 18, 2021

Apologies fo the double post - as an alternative, can I download and run NTSC N64 VC games on my PAL Wii?

XFlak · Jan 18, 2021

Uneek2o with multiple emulated nands, 1 for each region u have titles fir, then install the titles to the emunand of the same region.

Check out Modmii, it can build neek2o (via its "Sneek" features from the main menu) as well as build emunands for all regions, etc

andykara2003 · Jan 18, 2021

XFlak said:
Uneek2o with multiple emulated nands, 1 for each region u have titles fir, then install the titles to the emunand of the same region.

Check out Modmii, it can build neek2o (via its "Sneek" features from the main menu) as well as build emunands for all regions, etc

Thanks v. Much for this, I’ll look into it - will this route run the games perfectly just as if they were running on an unmodded console?

XFlak · Jan 19, 2021

In theory, but I think there are a few titles that might be finicky, but most should work pretty cleanly

andykara2003 · Jan 19, 2021

XFlak said:
In theory, but I think there are a few titles that might be finicky, but most should work pretty cleanly

Thanks again, really appreciate the info. Something else just occurred to me though. I have another Wii (NTSC) that’s been modded with WiiDual - so I can get RGB out of that. My N64 VC games are on the unmodded console though - I bought them all and I’d buy them again on the WiiDual console but of course the Wii shop’s closed. I’m wondering - if I hack the WiiDual one, is there a way of getting the VC N64 library on it exactly the same as I have on the other one? By the same I mean that it’s Nintendo’s code running on their emulator on the homepage, looking and playing exactly the same as if I downloaded them from Nintendo? I prefer to know I’m playing the way Nintendo intended rather than on external emulators etc.

XFlak · Jan 19, 2021

You could use bluedump mod to dump and fakesign titles from your other wii then install to a different wii. Or you could just make a nand backup of your other console, and use it as an emulated nand (extract nand.bin using showmiiwads' showmiinand mode), and launch the emunand on a different wii.

andykara2003 · Jan 19, 2021

XFlak said:
You could use bluedump mod to dump and fakesign titles from your other wii then install to a different wii. Or you could just make a nand backup of your other console, and use it as an emulated nand (extract nand.bin using showmiiwads' showmiinand mode), and launch the emunand on a different wii.

Thanks again - being an utter noob and looking to follow the simplest path, could I instead do a full nand dump of the VC Wii in usb GX loader or WiiFlow then use that nand dump in GXloader or Wiiflow on the other Wii?

KungBore · Jan 19, 2021

Not sure if this is the correct place, but I have 2 questions:

1. I have installed (actually, updated from v6) d2x v10beta52 on:
247 [base 57] revision 65535
248 [base 56] revision 65535 - this is the default IOS I set to use with USB Loader GX.
249 [base 58] revision 65535 (this one had the old rev19, so it was overwritten with this new d2x v10)

Will I get any problems by not using the regular IOSs slots? Are there any problems with 249 being base 58?

2. I've read in this page (https://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/Wii_cIOS_base_Compatibility_List) that:

"On Wii, v8 final is preferred. On vWii, d2x v10 r52 is preferred (do not install d2x v10-Alternate r53!)."

Should I overwrite 247, 248 and 249 with v8 for better stability? If so, where can I find it? This guide (https://wii.guide/cios) only provides d2x v10.

XFlak · Jan 19, 2021

andykara2003 said:
Thanks again - being an utter noob and looking to follow the simplest path, could I instead do a full nand dump of the VC Wii in usb GX loader or WiiFlow then use that nand dump in GXloader or Wiiflow on the other Wii?

That should work too. But when launching the titles you will get closer to the "real deal" by fully loading into neek to access your emunand, rather than launch emunand titles using a usbloader, which iirc still uses a cios instead of stock ios's

Oh, it's worth noting that if you dump your nand to use as an emunand, it will play back games from the neek disc channel as if it was a stock wii ONLY if the doner nand had stock unpatched IOSs is the slots that matter (anything over 200 doesn't matter, and ios20, 30,40, 50,51,52 ,60,70,80 should be okay if they are patched as well). But if you have a patched ios55, or ios56, etc. because of a prior DarkCorp or cioscorp installation this emunand will have it too and it will have an impact on playback via neek. To determine if you fall in this group, you should run syscheck HDE (given how passionate u are to run things as close to virgin as possible I doubt this applies to u, but u never know)

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KungBore said:
Not sure if this is the correct place, but I have 2 questions:

1. I have installed (actually, updated from v6) d2x v10beta52 on:
247 [base 57] revision 65535
248 [base 56] revision 65535 - this is the default IOS I set to use with USB Loader GX.
249 [base 58] revision 65535 (this one had the old rev19, so it was overwritten with this new d2x v10)

Will I get any problems by not using the regular IOSs slots? Are there any problems with 249 being base 58?

2. I've read in this page (https://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/Wii_cIOS_base_Compatibility_List) that:

"On Wii, v8 final is preferred. On vWii, d2x v10 r52 is preferred (do not install d2x v10-Alternate r53!)."

Should I overwrite 247, 248 and 249 with v8 for better stability? If so, where can I find it? This guide (https://wii.guide/cios) only provides d2x v10.

D2x v10 beta 52 is basically the same as v8-final, no need to change the version. However, you should have Base 57 installed to slot 249, and 56 to slot 250, and base 58 is unnecessary but can go to slot 251 or wherever.

You can use modmii or wii.guide, both will accomplish the same thing

KungBore · Jan 19, 2021

XFlak said:
That should work too. But when launching the titles you will get closer to the "real deal" by fully loading into neek to access your emunand, rather than launch emunand titles using a usbloader, which iirc still uses a cios instead of stock ios's

Oh, it's worth noting that if you dump your nand to use as an emunand, it will play back games from the neek disc channel as if it was a stock wii ONLY if the doner nand had stock unpatched IOSs is the slots that matter (anything over 200 doesn't matter, and ios20, 30,40, 50,51,52 ,60,70,80 should be okay if they are patched as well). But if you have a patched ios55, or ios56, etc. because of a prior DarkCorp or cioscorp installation this emunand will have it too and it will have an impact on playback via neek. To determine if you fall in this group, you should run syscheck HDE (given how passionate u are to run things as close to virgin as possible I doubt this applies to u, but u never know)

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D2x v10 beta 52 is basically the same as v8-final, no need to change the version. However, you should have Base 57 installed to slot 249, and 56 to slot 250, and base 58 is unnecessary but can go to slot 251 or wherever.

You can use modmii or wii.guide, both will accomplish the same thing

But, are there any possible problems in terms of compatibility/stability if I keep them like this? I chose those slots because I had already used them before and didn't want to mess with other slots. I hacked my Wii a long time ago haha, when the guides asked us to use rev19 in 249 and, later, d2x in 247 and 248.

XFlak · Jan 19, 2021

That would be a 200+ slot that is not used by official functions of the wii

Soulja88 · Jan 19, 2021

I dusted my Wii off after several years and I had many games burnt to disk which don’t seem to load but the originals work.

I found a disk titled update disk that says wiikey. I must have got it hard modded if I have this disk.
Any suggestions for easiest solution to get it running? I tried to search around but the terminology is too much for me, I’m totally out of touch.

Alexander1970 · Jan 19, 2021

Hello.

Soulja88 said:
I found a disk titled update disk that says wiikey. I must have got it hard modded if I have this disk.

If this is the Case,your Wii "should" boot burned Discs.

- Maybe the Drive has "Troubles" with your (already ?) burned Discs.
Maybe you can try Verbatim and 4x Burn Speed.
There is a Repository (in the Internet) named after the famous Nintendo Brand figure,that Plumber,I think.
There you can find some special Test/Update Discs for the Wii for testing your Modchip and your Wii´s Drive.

- If it still refuses to boot these Disc,you maybe should consider to open the Wii to check the Installation.
I think it its maybe very unlikely,the WiiKey/Modchip Chip is "broken".But maybe possible...
You can also put some Pictures from the Installation/Chip here if you like,maybe we can see something unusual.

Good Luck.

andykara2003 · Jan 19, 2021

XFlak said:
That should work too. But when launching the titles you will get closer to the "real deal" by fully loading into neek to access your emunand, rather than launch emunand titles using a usbloader, which iirc still uses a cios instead of stock ios's

Oh, it's worth noting that if you dump your nand to use as an emunand, it will play back games from the neek disc channel as if it was a stock wii ONLY if the doner nand had stock unpatched IOSs is the slots that matter (anything over 200 doesn't matter, and ios20, 30,40, 50,51,52 ,60,70,80 should be okay if they are patched as well). But if you have a patched ios55, or ios56, etc. because of a prior DarkCorp or cioscorp installation this emunand will have it too and it will have an impact on playback via neek. To determine if you fall in this group, you should run syscheck HDE (given how passionate u are to run things as close to virgin as possible I doubt this applies to u, but u never know)

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D2x v10 beta 52 is basically the same as v8-final, no need to change the version. However, you should have Base 57 installed to slot 249, and 56 to slot 250, and base 58 is unnecessary but can go to slot 251 or wherever.

You can use modmii or wii.guide, both will accomplish the same thing

Really appreciate the replies, thanks

XFlak · Jan 19, 2021

Soulja88 said:
I dusted my Wii off after several years and I had many games burnt to disk which don’t seem to load but the originals work.

I found a disk titled update disk that says wiikey. I must have got it hard modded if I have this disk.
Any suggestions for easiest solution to get it running? I tried to search around but the terminology is too much for me, I’m totally out of touch.

Just ignore the hardmod, and softmod using ModMii as per usual

KungBore · Jan 20, 2021

XFlak said:
That would be a 200+ slot that is not used by official functions of the wii

Thanks, I'll just leave it as it is then.

proreviewer2236 · Jan 20, 2021

Hello all. Im hoping I put this in the correct place. I apologize if I didnt. Ive been having trouble loading games in USB Loader GX. When I start the game it goes black. Ill post my syscheck below. Any help would be appreciated. I tried other threads but to no help. Thank you!

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.3U (v513)

Could not detect the drive date!
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 43064997
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: United States (49)
Boot2 v4
Found 92 titles.
Found 55 IOS on this console. 6 of them are stubs.

IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Flash Access, NAND Access
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS80 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS90 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[38+37] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, Beer Ticket
IOS245[37] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS246[38] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS247[53] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS248[55] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS249[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[58] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65280): Stub
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 01/18/2021.

XFlak · Jan 20, 2021

Your cios 249 looks OK which is what matters really in this instance. Can u try this version of GX? https://gbatemp.net/posts/8856063

Depending on the game you may be able to get it to work by switching to use IOS250 in the game specific settings.

Otherwise maybe it could be an issue with your hdd, how is it formatted? Fat32?

Alexander1970 · Jan 20, 2021

Hello.

proreviewer2236 said:
Hello all. Im hoping I put this in the correct place. I apologize if I didnt. Ive been having trouble loading games in USB Loader GX. When I start the game it goes black. Ill post my syscheck below. Any help would be appreciated. I tried other threads but to no help. Thank you!

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.3U (v513)

Could not detect the drive date!
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 43064997
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: United States (49)
Boot2 v4
Found 92 titles.
Found 55 IOS on this console. 6 of them are stubs.

IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Flash Access, NAND Access
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS80 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS90 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[38+37] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, Beer Ticket
IOS245[37] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS246[38] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS247[53] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS248[55] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS249[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[58] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65280): Stub
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 01/18/2021.

Is there anything wrong with your FIRST Request for Help for this Issue ?

https://gbatemp.net/threads/usb-loa...-using-500gb-seagate-hdd.581178/#post-9335563

proreviewer2236 · Jan 21, 2021

alexander1970 said:
Hello.

Is there anything wrong with your FIRST Request for Help for this Issue ?

Thanks so much for reaching out. I wasn't sure if this was in the correct place and I saw the noob section so I thought it might be better. I'm new to this, my apologies. Let me know if I should delete or move a post and I will. I appreciate it !
When I start a Wii game from USB Loader GX the Wii controller LED goes out and it stays on a black screen. Then when I try to use the wii controller it blinks but does not connect and the screen is still black. I then have to hold down the power button and re turn on the console to get it working again.

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