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Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

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I hope (and wouldnt be surprised) if they do. Truthfully we need to get rid of both parties and start over fresh. End this bs "best of the worst" and "career" politicians. Force a complete reset. The government no longer works for the people. It's the only way real change will come about.
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Dude, a reset could be a good thing, but the way to do that is not a blatantly partisan coup.
 

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Are we to trust our government to do it. At some point it just has to be done be it by force or otherwise. (Don't get me wrong I was not for the Trump rally In DC. Nor do I believe it was a true "coup" that the media is blowing it out to be. If it was they would of killed a lot more people they had the fire power to do so. Most was really just peacefully protesting.) Too many people rely on the government and take everything they say at truth. Was their voter fraud who knows can you prove it no because you can't just look at the ballot and say OK Mary Jane who lives at 123 fake st. Voted for Trump OK Mary is that who you voted for or did someone take the ballots and switch them. Since their was no evidence someone did that and you can't back check the ballots to make sure that's the case mail in ballots cannot be trusted and should never have been a mass way to vote. If you can't vote in person/with a valid ID then you shouldn't of got to vote. (Except out of country deployed troops and other very "limited" groups.) People will always question this election because of it and many will never trust any others are ever fair again. For that matter a closed source voting machine tallying up votes in a way that can't be checked especially by the regular voters. You always have to take this person's or that person's word that it was a fair election also raises doubt in people. And telling people to "just trust the government" is ignorant because they would never lie to you. You can call me stupid or paranoid or what ever you want but the truth is the government can only be trusted as far as the first redacted page and they like to keep a lot of secrets from the ones paying their checks.
 
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Nancy was there speaking to the troops so yes the Dems have full control of them. it is unconstitutional that's no power of her but they have a literal standing army in dc because Biden won by so much and is so love that needs them to keep people out of the capital nothing odd here.
wait... so when Biden wins by 5 million people, it's "so much", but when 4 million people lose thier insurance and have to switch doctors, it's a lie or not even worth mentioning?

Math is hard, I guess.
 

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Hillary Clinton: Donald Trump Has History of Complaining About Rigging



This video was taken from the 3rd and final Presidential debate held on October, 19th, 2016. Everything Clinton said about Trump in this video was not only 100% true, but served as a foreshadowing clue of what was yet to come. Below are a few archived tweets where Trump alleged rigging of some kind. Notice the dates of the top two tweets regarding election rigging? They were made BEFORE each election was held...:unsure:

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Nancy was there speaking to the troops so yes the Dems have full control of them.

Someone speaking is not the same as full control.

If it was they would of killed a lot more people they had the fire power to do so.

The people who stormed the capitol were just plain morons. The kind of people that shouldn't be allowed guns, because they are likely to shoot themselves. The second amendment is basically a load of rubbish that has been kept to patronize those kinds of idiots, sure you can bear arms & if you try to use them you'll eventually get a drone strike on your ass.

They thought it would be easy and it kinda was easy to get into the building, because it's just a building but they hadn't got a single thought about what they would do when they got there. Because they, like anyone who thinks a coup is the way forward, is dumb.
 
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Are we to trust our government to do it. At some point it just has to be done be it by force or otherwise. (Don't get me wrong I was not for the Trump rally In DC. Nor do I believe it was a true "coup" that the media is blowing it out to be. If it was they would of killed a lot more people they had the fire power to do so. Most was really just peacefully protesting.) Too many people rely on the government and take everything they say at truth. Was their voter fraud who knows can you prove it no because you can't just look at the ballot and say OK Mary Jane who lives at 123 fake st. Voted for Trump OK Mary is that who you voted for or did someone take the ballots and switch them. Since their was no evidence someone did that and you can't back check the ballots to make sure that's the case mail in ballots cannot be trusted and should never have been a mass way to vote. If you can't vote in person/with a valid ID then you shouldn't of got to vote. (Except out of country deployed troops and other very "limited" groups.) People will always question this election because of it and many will never trust any others are ever fair again. For that matter a closed source voting machine tallying up votes in a way that can't be checked especially by the regular voters. You always have to take this person's or that person's word that it was a fair election also raises doubt in people. And telling people to "just trust the government" is ignorant because they would never lie to you. You can call me stupid or paranoid or what ever you want but the truth is the government can only be trusted as far as the first redacted page and they like to keep a lot of secrets from the ones paying their checks.
first off, I almost had a stroke trying to read that for several reasons
second off, it was an ATTEMPTED coup
specifically, attempted by complete and utter idiots that had no clue what they were doing
 
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wait... so when Biden wins by 5 million people, it's "so much", but when 4 million people lose thier insurance and have to switch doctors, it's a lie or not even worth mentioning?

Math is hard, I guess.

It's not a math issue, I think you misunderstand the facts of the case (either on purpose, or for some other reason).

first off, I almost had a stroke trying to read that for several reasons
second off, it was an ATTEMPTED coup
specifically, attempted by complete and utter idiots that had no clue what they were doing

Like Elizabeth from Knoxville, I'd describe it as a failed revolution.

https://www.thefocus.news/business/elizabeth-its-a-revolution/

It's so unfair that they used mace, didn't they know they should have welcomed them with open arms?

They were only did it because Trump told them to do it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/nyregion/protesters-blaming-trump-pardon.html

It's hilarious that Trump is denying responsibility for something his own supporters say he did & the world witnessed him doing it. What an absolute piece of shit Trump is.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.
 
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It's not a math issue, I think you misunderstand the facts of the case (either on purpose, or for some other reason).



Like Elizabeth from Knoxville, I'd describe it as a failed revolution.

https://www.thefocus.news/business/elizabeth-its-a-revolution/

It's so unfair that they used mace, didn't they know they should have welcomed them with open arms?

They were only did it because Trump told them to do it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/nyregion/protesters-blaming-trump-pardon.html

It's hilarious that Trump is denying responsibility for something his own supporters say he did & the world witnessed him doing it. What an absolute piece of shit Trump is.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.
I pray the 'unfair' bit is sarcasm (probably, but it's hard to tell) considering how damn overenthusiastic the cops were to fend off peaceful BLM protests with rubber bullets and tear gas and shit.
But yeah, Trump is such a POS that calling him one is an insult to literal feces.
 

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I pray the 'unfair' bit is sarcasm (probably, but it's hard to tell) considering how damn overenthusiastic the cops were to fend off peaceful BLM protests with rubber bullets and tear gas and shit.

In general the reception was softer & some cops appear to support the failed revolution, but once inside there was resistance.

BLM got rubber bullets and tear gas by the cops outside, I would expect they would have received the same welcome inside the building as Trumps lynch mob.

If you can't understand the sarcasm, then you probably should take a break from the internet.
 

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its starting.....the first Conspiracy charge:toot::toot:
U.S. files conspiracy charge against Oath Keeper leader in alleged plot against the Capitol


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and yess... its an Attempted COUP... Just because a Dumbass Horribly fails at trying to MURDER someone... that does not mean they are off the hook and not going to get arrested and charged
Oh I agree that anyone and everyone during any of these riots should be arrested and procuted they broke the law and should pay. I just don't believe it was as bad or as big of a deal as the media is tryin to make it. It was mostly a bunch of dumb ass hicks goin "hold my beer" as they took selfies and videos of themselves doin stupid shit. A few probably went in there thinking they were goin to get something accomplished but most was just stupid ass mob mentality.

In general the reception was softer & some cops appear to support the failed revolution, but once inside there was resistance.

BLM got rubber bullets and tear gas by the cops outside, I would expect they would have received the same welcome inside the building as Trumps lynch mob.

If you can't understand the sarcasm, then you probably should take a break from the internet.

Peaceful down town Louisville KY looked like a damn bomb went off and it wasnt the only city every one they went to destruction followed
 
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A few probably went in there thinking they were goin to get something accomplished but most was just stupid ass mob mentality.

They were all "stupid ass mob mentality", but they do appear to have expected that what they did would make a difference. Which is also stupid.

They were all in it as deep as each other.
 

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In general the reception was softer & some cops appear to support the failed revolution, but once inside there was resistance.

BLM got rubber bullets and tear gas by the cops outside, I would expect they would have received the same welcome inside the building as Trumps lynch mob.

If you can't understand the sarcasm, then you probably should take a break from the internet.
look, people have gotten so batcrap insane that Poe's Law is practically a metaphysical law now
 

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Peaceful down town Louisville KY looked like a damn bomb went off and it wasnt the only city every one they went to destruction followed

Large amounts of people always make it look untidy, you'll have to make more objective statements than "looked like a damn bomb went off"

Maybe it had something to do with the far right activists

As the Kentucky Derby got underway Saturday, the city of Louisville saw protests from far-right activists and those calling for justice in the aftermath of Breonna Taylor's fatal shooting by Louisville, Kentucky, police.
 

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Large amounts of people always make it look untidy, you'll have to make more objective statements than "looked like a damn bomb went off"

Maybe it had something to do with the far right activists

As the Kentucky Derby got underway Saturday, the city of Louisville saw protests from far-right activists and those calling for justice in the aftermath of Breonna Taylor's fatal shooting by Louisville, Kentucky, police.
Lol it tells me that page doesn't exist. But yeah every window busted out, buildings burnt, rioting and looting. Calling for justice is OK. When u break the law doing it that goes into a whole other category and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Just like trumps proud boys and their stupid ass "coupe" attempt you break the law you should pay. These people want to prosecute one side and give the other a free pass. Where was the fast flight response When the other side was burning and looting. Wait Noone wanted to order it due to fear of being called racist. You can no longer disagree with that side without being called a racist, nazi, or some other term your group has recently came up with. "Karen or Chad as you like to say." Isn't lumping a group of people "based on age and race" under one name still considered racist or does it not apply to your side? Calling out and associating groups of people to a specific term is racist no matter how you look at it.
 

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Lol it tells me that page doesn't exist. But yeah every window busted out, buildings burnt, rioting and looting. Calling for justice is OK. When u break the law doing it that goes into a whole other category and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Just like trumps proud boys and their stupid ass "coupe" attempt you break the law you should pay. These people want to prosecute one side and give the other a free pass. Where was the fast flight response When the other side was burning and looting. Wait Noone wanted to order it due to fear of being called racist. You can no longer disagree with that side without being called a racist, nazi, or some other term your group has recently came up with. "Karen or Chad as you like to say." Isn't lumping a group of people "based on age and race" under one name still considered racist or does it not apply to your side? Calling out and associating groups of people to a specific term is racist no matter how you look at it.
ok this is an absolute mess
firstly, even if the total death tally in all BLM protests exceeds that of the riot, this was one riot and it killed five people, as well as having clear violent intent the entire time
secondly, the "other side" WASN'T burning or looting for the most part
the vast majority of actual violence in the BLM protests was either from overzealous police escalating things (which was literally part of the problem the protests were protesting against) or from far-right lunatics deliberately instigating violence
thirdly, "you can no longer disagree with that side without being called a racist" is classic persecution-complex DARVO argument bullshit and we all know it- deny racism, verbally attack the protestors and then back down and act like they're somehow persecuting you by protesting about being discriminated against
fourthly, Karen, Chad, etc. aren't based on age or race, they're personality descriptors
fifthly (is that even a word?), you're confusing racism with general bigotry, which makes it pretty clear you're just throwing around the term wildly with a side of tu quoque arguments as an excuse to blame the victim instead of actually caring about stopping racism (or stopping riots, for that matter)
 

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But yeah every window busted out, buildings burnt, rioting and looting. Calling for justice is OK. When u break the law doing it that goes into a whole other category and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

I agree, the problem you have when there is a large protest is that because the police are busy then other people will take advantage. You can't blame that on the protesters, only the individuals that took part in the illegal activity. Go ahead and find them and prosecute them. If you can find evidence against everyone that was there, then so be it.

With the storming of the capitol it's different, they were there because Trump told them to do it and they did it.
 
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ok this is an absolute mess
Yeah it kind of was lol.
firstly, even if the total death tally in all BLM protests exceeds that of the riot, this was one riot and it killed five people, as well as having clear violent intent the entire time
First I don't condone what they did in dc and don't see what the 5 dead have to do with the total deaths from BLM protests all I said is breaking the law is breaking the law and they should all be punished period.
secondly, the "other side" WASN'T burning or looting for the most part
the vast majority of actual violence in the BLM protests was either from overzealous police escalating things (which was literally part of the problem the protests were protesting against) or from far-right lunatics deliberately instigating violence

I call bull shit on this one. Maybe (and I mean a big maybe) some can be blamed on far right but let's point fingers where they belong and that's at the rioters and looters. Also the media that refused to actually cover most of it and swept it under the rug as a "mostly peaceful protest." By that logic trumps failed "coup" was a mostly peaceful walk through the capital building.

thirdly, "you can no longer disagree with that side without being called a racist" is classic persecution-complex DARVO argument bullshit and we all know it- deny racism, verbally attack the protestors and then back down and act like they're somehow persecuting you by protesting about being discriminated against

Almost seams like your tryin to call me racist here without actually saying it. That being saaid I have watched in this thread where every Trump supporters has been compared to a nazi or called racist in some way or the other..

fourthly, Karen, Chad, etc. aren't based on age or race, they're personality descriptors
fifthly (is that even a word?), you're confusing racism with general bigotry, which makes it pretty clear you're just throwing around the term wildly with a side of tu quoque arguments as an excuse to blame the victim instead of actually caring about stopping racism (or stopping riots, for that matter)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-53588201

From the 1st paragraph

"Karen" has, in recent years, become a widespread meme referencing a specific type of middle-class white woman, who exhibits behaviours that stem from privilege.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_stereotype

Again from 1st paragraph

An ethnic stereotype (national stereotype, or national character) or racial stereotype is a system of beliefs about typical characteristics of members of a given ethnic group or nationality, their status, society and cultural norms.

Sounds kind of familiar.. A steriotype is a stereotype and hurts people feeling (not to mention hurts the fact that your trying to stop racism as it usually flames the person up more) until Humans can quit lumping each other into groups and trying to belittle them (aka until we can all see each other as equals and what we really are HUMANS) the world will never change.

Ps hope I quoted all that correct lol
 

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Almost seams like your tryin to call me racist here without actually saying it. That being saaid I have watched in this thread where every Trump supporters has been compared to a nazi or called racist in some way or the other..

Anyone who compares the problems that happened at the BLM marches, to an attack on democracy that had the crowd calling on murdering people and specific threats to murder people is raising the suspicion that you are bigoted/racist/nazi.

It's not our fault if you can't objectively compare the two without prejudice.
 
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I agree, the problem you have when there is a large protest is that because the police are busy then other people will take advantage. You can't blame that on the protesters, only the individuals that took part in the illegal activity. Go ahead and find them and prosecute them. If you can find evidence against everyone that was there, then so be it.

With the storming of the capitol it's different, they were there because Trump told them to do it and they did it.
Trump told them that they can voice their discontent by protesting, so did everyone behind the BLM movement. Trump never included storming the Capitol as part of that protest, BLM organisers never mentioned looting or arson. I say that in a generous manner since some BLM organisers were in fact involved in illegal activity during the protests, including arson, but let's say they "didn't advocate for it" for the sake of the argument.

https://www.phillyvoice.com/philly-riots-charges-arson-police-cars-george-floyd-protests/

I simply don't see the difference. The "majority of the people who were protesting" were peaceful in both instances and a select few took things way too far.
 
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