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When being "allowed" to investigate things like the Dominion voting machines it means they were allowed into a room to look at the outside of the machine. Refused to see internals, refused to see the code. They were completely obstructed and you're not clever by pretending you don't know.
There were literal hand-counting audits that disproved any Dominion conspiracy theory nonsense.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/12/audit-in-michigan-county-refutes-dominion-conspiracy-theory/

Are you even trying?
 

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Regardless of whether or not everyone there participated in the armed insurrection that was the invasion of the Capitol, it's anti-democratic to protest the results of a free and fair election, and they were still participating in Trump's attempted coup d'état. In other words, even if everything had been peaceful at the Capitol, those who were there perpetuated false and dangerous information about election fraud, and their goal was to persuade members of Congress to arbitrarily overturn the results of the election.

It should also be noted that over 200 subject case files have been opened in response to the armed insurrection at the Capitol, and they were there because Trump instigated it.

Once again, protesting is a right. You may not agree with why the protests are taking place, but they shouldn't have been stopped because you have a right to protest if you're a USA citizen. You don't agree with the reasoning, that's fine. I don't agree with the BLM bullshit either and think all of those defund the police protests were fucking stupid.

Only 200? The crowd that started to riot looked like around 300-400 people. Then again, 200-400 people out of 100,000+ is chump change. The media is only focusing on the rioters to deflect interest away from why the actual protesting was taking place.

I'll say this one last time. Protesting is a God given right. There was nothing wrong with people protesting peacefully in DC or people protesting peacefully all of last year during the BLM garbage. You cannot deny the right we have because you don't like the reason its taking place and it's pretty weird that suddenly rioting is a problem when it was encouraged and glamorized for most of last year.
 

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Bes honest. Did you even read that article you linked to me or did you just Google for the article with the title you wanted and copy and pasted it?

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------
This post contains exactly zero points of evidence.
It's like you've turned ad hominem attacks into a hobby.
 
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Once again, protesting is a right. You may not agree with why the protests are taking place, but they shouldn't have been stopped because you have a right to protest if you're a USA citizen. You don't agree with the reasoning, that's fine. I don't agree with the BLM bullshit either and think all of those defund the police protests were fucking stupid.
Protesting is a right, and I didn't say otherwise. However, replying "protesting is a right" doesn't contradict anything I said in the post you were responding to.

Let's be clear. What occurred at the Capitol was an armed insurrection against the United States. Anyone present who was merely protesting was protesting the counting of votes in a fair and free election. That's anti-democratic, and it's anti-American.

Only 200? The crowd that started to riot looked like around 300-400 people. Then again, 200-400 people out of 100,000+ is chump change. The media is only focusing on the rioters to deflect interest away from why the actual protesting was taking place.
Where is your source that it was over 100,000 people?

I'll say this one last time. Protesting is a God given right. There was nothing wrong with people protesting peacefully in DC or people protesting peacefully all of last year during the BLM garbage. You cannot deny the right we have because you don't like the reason its taking place and it's pretty weird that suddenly rioting is a problem when it was encouraged and glamorized for most of last year.
It's a Constitutional right, not a "God-given right." There's no right to protest in the Bible (in fact, the Bible arguably advocates against the kind of protest that occurred at the Capitol). There is also no evidence that a god exists, but that's a subject for another thread.

Bes honest. Did you even read that article you linked to me or did you just Google for the article with the title you wanted and copy and pasted it?
Nice attempt at deflection. "Yeah, you may have disproved my entire point and embarrassed me, but let's focus instead on the unsubstantiated claim that you didn't read the article that disproved my entire point before you posted it. Yeah. That's what's important here."

I always read at least the relevant information in whatever I post a link to.

To get back to the actual topic you tried to avoid, the conspiracy theory that Dominion did anything improper not only hasn't been demonstrated with evidence, but it has been investigated and debunked.
 

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Bes honest. Did you even read that article you linked to me or did you just Google for the article with the title you wanted and copy and pasted it?

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------
May you find the Discernment to realize how you were mislead. To see that it was man that misled you in believing in a made up "evil Cabal" God did not Command you. I Honestly Pray that you really discover the Beauty and peace of Finding God, not this anger and resentment you display
 
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May you find the the Discernment to realize how you were mislead. To see that it was man that misled you in believing in a made up "evil Cabal" God did not Command you. I Honestly Pray that you really discover the Beauty and Peach of Finding God, not this anger and resent me you display
You're being really cringe.

Imagine unironically thinking that all the big tech companies aren't working in collaboration when they all in unison decide to censor, deplatform and crush competition they don't like.

When you watch RoboCop do you root for the OCP?
 

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You're being really cringe.

Imagine unironically thinking that all the big tech companies aren't working in collaboration when they all in unison decide to censor, deplatform and crush competition they don't like.

When you watch RoboCop do you root for the OCP?
This isn't Orwell's 1984, *snip*. This is the equivalent of a disgruntled parent punishing their laughably badly behaved child by sending them to their room.
 
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*Snip*

Can't wait for the inauguration on the 20th so that I can close this thread forever. I'm away for one day and I don't even know where to start.
lol yESS!!!! me and you don't really look eye to eye but best thing you have ever said
 
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Can't wait for the inauguration on the 20th so that I can close this thread forever. I'm away for one day and I don't even know where to start.
I don't either
I'm just like "dude just because people don't want you to spew hatred doesn't mean this is already some orwellian dystopia" and I get called a *snip*
w a t
 
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lol yESS!!!! me and you don't really look eye to eye but best thing you have ever said
You're no saint either. Having a cursory look at the last three pages, I'd technically have to suspend/warn most of you lot, including people who normally behave, to do this by the book, and at that point we may as well close the thread. No amount warnings will stop you guys from jumping at each other's throats.
 

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Lacius said:
Protesting is a right, and I didn't say otherwise. However, replying "protesting is a right" doesn't contradict anything I said in the post you were responding to.

Let's be clear. What occurred at the Capitol was an armed insurrection against the United States. Anyone present who was merely protesting was protesting the counting of votes in a fair and free election. That's anti-democratic, and it's anti-American.

And I believe the BLM protests were anti-American. Again, it's all dependent on your point of view. You're trying to pass off your personal preferences as facts when they are only opinions.

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No, constitution-given.

Nope, see below.

Lacius said:
It's a Constitutional right, not a "God-given right." There's no right to protest in the Bible (in fact, the Bible arguably advocates against the kind of protest that occurred at the Capitol). There is also no evidence that a god exists, but that's a subject for another thread.

No, I said it correctly.

The framers of the United States of America's Constitution made sure to include rights that were given to us by God in it. They are called “unalienable rights”. You should probably learn about what they are and why they are included. *Snip*

"It is important to understand that the very premise of our nation is the fact that these rights, based on Natural Law, are "God-given." If they are not given to us by an Authority higher than human government, then any government action to abolish those rights would be against God's will."

https://www.conservapedia.com/Unalienable_rights
 
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And I believe the BLM protests were anti-American. Again, it's all dependent on your point of view. You're trying to pass off your personal preferences as facts when they are only opinions.

Nope, see below.

No, I said it correctly.

The framers of the United States of America's Constitution made sure to include rights that were given to us by God in it. They are called “unalienable rights”. You should probably learn about what they are and why they are included. *Snip*

https://www.conservapedia.com/Unalienable_rights
you're citing
conservapedia
because all the major sources aren't delusional enough
I cannot express how fucking hilarious this is in text
also, fun fact: the US is not a Christian nation! the whole "under God" bit got shoehorned in later on, but one of the core freedoms it was founded on was freedom of religion!

*Snip*

the Constitution wasn't made to involve God in any way, shape or form. the unalienable rights are just... basic human rights, and are arguably missing quite a few of those at that.
 
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And I believe the BLM protests were anti-American. Again, it's all dependent on your point of view. You're trying to pass off your personal preferences as facts when they are only opinions.
That's interesting that you think protests against systemic racism are anti-American.

Nope, see below.



No, I said it correctly.

The framers of the United States of America's Constitution made sure to include rights that were given to us by God in it. They are called “unalienable rights”. You should probably learn about what they are and why they are included. *Snip*

"It is important to understand that the very premise of our nation is the fact that these rights, based on Natural Law, are "God-given." If they are not given to us by an Authority higher than human government, then any government action to abolish those rights would be against God's will."

https://www.conservapedia.com/Unalienable_rights
Regardless of why it was put in the Constitution, an American's right to protest literally comes from the Constitution. A god's existence hasn't even been demonstrated, and even if it were, one's right to protest comes from the Constitution.
 
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Lacuis said:
That's interesting that you think protests against systemic racism are anti-American.

The BLM riots were started because a drug addict overdosed and died while being restrained for resisting arrest and consisted of criminals who looted stores, burnt down buildings, took over parts of cities, murdered and raped people and wanted the police defunded. I'm not sorry that I find that anti-American.

Plasmaster09 said:
you're citing
conservapedia
because all the major sources aren't delusional enough
I cannot express how fucking hilarious this is in text
also, fun fact: the US is not a Christian nation! the whole "under God" bit got shoehorned in later on, but one of the core freedoms it was founded on was freedom of religion!
also are you seriously calling polytheists "God haters" and atheists/agnostics "God deniers"?
the Constitution wasn't made to involve God in any way, shape or form. the unalienable rights are just... basic human rights, and are arguably missing quite a few of those at that.
*Snip*

Virginia’s 1776 Constitution declared that “all men are by nature free and independent, and have certain inherent rights . . . .” R. Perry & J. Cooper, Sources of Our Liberties 311 (1978) (hereinafter R. Perry). Pennsylvania’s 1776 Constitution stated that “all men are born equally free and independent, and have certain natural, inherent and inalienable rights . . . .” Id. at 329. Delaware and North Carolina’s 1776 Declaration of Rights proclaimed that “all men have a natural and unalienable right to worship Almighty God . . . .” Id. at 338, 356.

https://lonang.com/commentaries/conlaw/religious-liberty/declaration-of-independence-religion/
 
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The BLM riots were started because a drug addict overdosed and died while being restrained for resisting arrest and consisted of criminals who looted stores, burnt down buildings, took over parts of cities, murdered and raped people that wanted the police defunded. I'm not sorry that I find that anti-American.



*Snip*

Virginia’s 1776 Constitution declared that “all men are by nature free and independent, and have certain inherent rights . . . .” R. Perry & J. Cooper, Sources of Our Liberties 311 (1978) (hereinafter R. Perry). Pennsylvania’s 1776 Constitution stated that “all men are born equally free and independent, and have certain natural, inherent and inalienable rights . . . .” Id. at 329. Delaware and North Carolina’s 1776 Declaration of Rights proclaimed that “all men have a natural and unalienable right to worship Almighty God . . . .” Id. at 338, 356.

https://lonang.com/commentaries/conlaw/religious-liberty/declaration-of-independence-religion/
*Snip*

Second off, here's the full section you're citing at the end there:
"That all men have a natural and unalienable right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their own consciences and understandings; and that no man ought or of right can be compelled to attend any religious worship or maintain any ministry contrary to or against his own free will and consent, and that no authority can or ought to be vested in, or assumed by any power whatever that shall in any case interfere with, or in any manner control the right of conscience in the free exercise of religious worship."
AKA: Leave God out of politics.
 
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The problem with lying, cheating and stealing is when you win you actually didn't win anything.

I don't know, Trump had a media career and got to be president for a single term. That isn't nothing.

If you're a USA citizen then Trump is your President. It's not a personal preference. It was decided in an election in 2016. Face facts for once in your life.

No, again. He was the president of the united states of america. Face facts for once in your life, you are not the united states of america..

Whether he is YOUR president means something entirely different to what you are arguing, it just means whether you want to associate with him. It's a preference. Doctor Who fans talk about "My Doctor", it's the same. They aren't denying the other actors that played the character.

You seem upset that people are expressing an opinion that you don't like and then pretending that what they are saying means something else and then arguing with your incorrect interpretation of it. I don't see what you have to gain from that.
 
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