Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

Cryoraptor · Jan 18, 2021

Plasmaster09 said:
In 2016, when I woke up to find that Trump had won, my first sentence on the matter was "Welp, we're doomed."
I was pissed, mostly because Trump had managed to get elected despite putting his sheer scumminess on public display throughout his campaign. I knew that part of the reason he won was the constant "but her emails" deflection and mudslinging, but I never tried grasping at straws in order to pull accusations of widespread election fraud out of my ass.
The Trumpers told me and my fellow Dems to "deal with it", and to a certain extent we did.
Now, a decent chunk of said Trumpers are demonstrably failing to "deal" with the election results.
Oh, how the turns have tabled.

Yes, exactly. Trumptards are acting exactly like the Hillarytards were in 2016-17, which they memed the shit out of them for. It's almost like Trumptards are no different from SJWs, wouldn't you say?!

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UltraSUPRA said:
I understand where you're coming from, but the "don't be like them" mentality is the main reason why we always lose at everything.

I feel like you, Frankford and Tabzer are all coordinated trolls/Poes lmfao

Plasmaster09 · Jan 18, 2021

Frankfort42 said:
If Republicans would claim Biden isn't their President for the next 4 years they'd be delusional idiots just like the Liberals have been for the last 4 years. If you're a citizen of the USA then Trump is your President and has been for 4 years. If you're a USA citizen then in a few days Biden will be your President. Claiming "he's not my President" is not correct. So you don't like Trump? Okay, he's still YOUR PRESIDENT.

Eh, it's still a difference of meaning.
We've been using "not my President" to mean "he is my President, but I don't support him one bit and find his ideals utterly abhorrent". The 2020 election deniers are using it to mean "I don't believe this man is legitimately my President".
Trump is my President, but not "my" President. See?

Cryoraptor said:
I feel like you, Frankford and Tabzer are all coordinated trolls/Poes lmfao

honestly despite Frankfort being a week-or-two-old burner account, I'd vouch for his legitimacy.
not very often such a hardcore trumper is willing to admit that the evidence points to Biden winning legit.
tabzer though, yeah he's 100% poe
edit: scratch that they're both poes

Cryoraptor · Jan 18, 2021

Frankfort42 said:
If Republicans would claim Biden isn't their President for the next 4 years they'd be delusional idiots just like the Liberals have been for the last 4 years. If you're a citizen of the USA then Trump is your President and has been for 4 years. If you're a USA citizen then in a few days Biden will be your President. Claiming "he's not my President" is not correct. So you don't like Trump? Okay, he's still YOUR PRESIDENT.

Yes, good, you're beginning to make sense. Have you forgotten to switch to your pro-Biden account? :rofl2:

Frankfort42 · Jan 18, 2021

Plasmaster09 said:
In 2016, when I woke up to find that Trump had won, my first sentence on the matter was "Welp, we're doomed."
I was pissed, mostly because Trump had managed to get elected despite putting his sheer scumminess on public display throughout his campaign. I knew that part of the reason he won was the constant "but her emails" deflection and mudslinging, but I never tried grasping at straws in order to pull accusations of widespread election fraud out of my ass.
The Trumpers told me and my fellow Dems to "deal with it", and to a certain extent we did.
Now, a decent chunk of said Trumpers are demonstrably failing to "deal" with the election results.
Oh, how the turns have tabled.

Well, your fears never came to pass. Even with the World being crippled by a pandemic Trump was able to keep our economy growing. Sure, there's minor issues that the Leftist media says are completely horrible, but the truth of the matter is that Trump did a much better job with our country than Obama said was possible.

Also, if you're a leftist that has denied Trump was your President for the last 4 years then you have no ground to stand on a judge Conservatives that might say the same thing about Biden.

smf · Jan 18, 2021

Frankfort42 said:
So you don't like Trump? Okay, he's still YOUR PRESIDENT.

No, he's THE president of the united states of america.

Whether he is your president is down to preference & it's a first amendment right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_My_Presidents_Day

djpannda · Jan 18, 2021

Frankfort42 said:
Makes ya think, don't it?

(Disclaimer: Since @djpannda can post memes without action from the mods I will post one too. If I can't post then it would only be fair for the mods to go delete the 20+ memes he's posted in this thread and others).

AMERICA!!!, Where People cannot be White Supremacist openly in public!!
Please go back in the Closet now..

Plasmaster09 · Jan 18, 2021

Frankfort42 said:
Well, your fears never came to pass. Even with the World being crippled by a pandemic Trump was able to keep our economy growing. Sure, there's minor issues that the Leftist media says are completely horrible, but the truth of the matter is that Trump did a much better job with our country than Obama said was possible.

Also, if you're a leftist that has denied Trump was your President for the last 4 years then you have no ground to stand on a judge Conservatives that might say the same thing about Biden.

Even ignoring everything else, Trump catastrophically mishandled this pandemic. It took months and months to get the guy to stop acting like it was "just a flu", let alone wear a mask in public! He's a good chunk of the reason so many people have endangered themselves and others through not taking proper precautions.
And I haven't denied Trump being my President. I may hate the man with every fiber of my being, but I'm not going to act like he didn't really win the election unless I have evidence- and just like this time, there's no evidence of any outright meddling.

Also, from the article djpannda linked:
"Organizers of the protest stated that although Trump was the president, they wanted to show that he did not represent their values."
This is what we meant by "not my President". Sure, he is (or, starting in two days, was) the President of my nation, so he is "my President", but he certainly isn't "my" President in any way, shape or form.

Frankfort42 · Jan 18, 2021

Cryoraptor said:
Yes, good, you're beginning to make sense. Have you forgotten to switch to your pro-Biden account?

I'm not sure who you've been talking to, but the majority of the Republican party and the majority of the Conservatives accept Trump lost. There's around a couple hundred thousand who say they don't accept it compared to 60+ million that do. Of course, if your only source is listening to the Liberal media then it's understandable. I'd suggest you go hang with some Conservatives for a while and you'd quickly realize most of us accept the loss. You know not knowing your adversary isn't a good tactic. You should familiarize yourself with your opponent. The problem is the left (your leaders, buddies, peers, friends, etc ...) will all shame you for visiting Conservative sources and that's a given because they don't want you to learn the truth. If you could just open your eyes and see how crooked the left is you'd probably shit yourself for being so gullible.

smf · Jan 18, 2021

https://columbiachronicle.com/opinion-saying-not-my-president-is-not-the-same-as-stop-the-count

“When people said ‘Not my president,’ they meant ‘I don’t like this man. He is not representing me,’” Ackelsberg said. “That’s not the same as saying ‘This election did not take place,’ or ‘This election was fraudulent.’”

Plasmaster09 · Jan 18, 2021

Frankfort42 said:
I'm not sure who you've been talking to, but the majority of the Republican party and the majority of the Conservatives accept Trump lost. There's around a couple hundred thousand who say they don't accept it compared to 60+ million that do. Of course, if your only source is listening to the Liberal media then it's understandable. I'd suggest you go hang with some Conservatives for a while and you'd quickly realize most of us accept the loss. You know not knowing your adversary isn't a good tactic. You should familiarize yourself with your opponent. The problem is the left (your leaders, buddies, peers, friends, etc ...) will all shame you for visiting Conservative sources and that's a given because they don't want you to learn the truth. If you could just open your eyes and see how crooked the left is you'd probably shit yourself for being so gullible.

Damn, you were so close- but you had to lapse back in to condescension and batshit insane accusations.
The main examples of hardcore Trump supporters on this thread are tabzer, shamzie, UltraSUPRA and you... and you're the only one of the four with enough brain cells to realize Biden won legitimately and enough guts to admit it.
Looks like those are the last milestones for those that you hit, though. A pity.

Cryoraptor · Jan 18, 2021

Frankfort42 said:
I'm not sure who you've been talking to, but the majority of the Republican party and the majority of the Conservatives accept Trump lost. There's around a couple hundred thousand who say they don't accept it compared to 60+ million that do. Of course, if your only source is listening to the Liberal media then it's understandable. I'd suggest you go hang with some Conservatives for a while and you'd quickly realize most of us accept the loss. You know not knowing your adversary isn't a good tactic. You should familiarize yourself with your opponent. The problem is the left (your leaders, buddies, peers, friends, etc ...) will all shame you for visiting Conservative sources and that's a given because they don't want you to learn the truth. If you could just open your eyes and see how crooked the left is you'd probably shit yourself for being so gullible.

...Mate, you do realise I'm centrist right? I'm not a liberal, nor do I believe leftist propaganda. In the same way, I don't believe your right wing blame game politics, "it's all their fault". Honestly sounds like the Nazis saying "It's all the Jews' fault, stop listening to the Jewish media, go look up some conservative sources that Jews shame you for looking, once you see how crooked the Jews are you'll probably shit yourself for being so gullible".

Also, Wikipedia seems to disagree with your statement (is Wikipedia leftist propaganda too?):

"A December 2020 poll showed 77% of Republicans believe widespread fraud occurred during the election. 35% of independent voters also said they believe widespread voter fraud took place. Overall, 60% of Americans believed Biden's win was legitimate, 34% did not, and 6% were unsure. Another poll taken in late December showed a similar result, with 62% of Americans polled believing Biden was the legitimate winner of the election, while 37% did not. This split in popular opinion remained largely stable, with a January 10, 2021, poll commissioned by ABC News showing 68% of Americans believed Biden’s win was legitimate and 32% did not."

Note: Citations are provided in the article.

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Plasmaster09 said:
Damn, you were so close- but you had to lapse back in to condescension and batshit insane accusations.
The main examples of hardcore Trump supporters on this thread are tabzer, shamzie, UltraSUPRA and you... and you're the only one of the four with enough brain cells to realize Biden won legitimately and enough guts to admit it.
Looks like those are the last milestones for those that you hit, though. A pity.

I could've sworn he was arguing for election fraud when he was barking on about 'leftist media'. Perhaps his message is so convoluted in its scaremongering tactics that it's nigh impossible to work out what it is.

Frankfort42 · Jan 18, 2021

UltraSUPRA said:
I understand where you're coming from, but the "don't be like them" mentality is the main reason why we always lose at everything.

The problem with lying, cheating and stealing is when you win you actually didn't win anything. You may get the trophy or your candidate in office, but you sold your soul to do so. There's a reason why the Liberals are so miserable and need marijuana or pills to simply function. It's because lying, cheating, manipulating, stealing and basically sinning in general always results in negative outcomes even if on the surface it looks like you've won.

smf said:
No, he's THE president of the united states of america.

Whether he is your president is down to preference & it's a first amendment right.

If you're a USA citizen then Trump is your President. It's not a personal preference. It was decided in an election in 2016. Face facts for once in your life.

Plasmaster09 · Jan 18, 2021

Cryoraptor said:
...Mate, you do realise I'm centrist right? I'm not a liberal, nor do I believe leftist propaganda. In the same way, I don't believe your right wing blame game politics, "it's all their fault". Honestly sounds like the Nazis saying "It's all the Jews' fault, stop listening to the Jewish media, go look up some conservative sources that Jews shame you for looking, once you see how crooked the Jews are you'll probably shit yourself for being so gullible".

Also, Wikipedia seems to disagree with your statement (is Wikipedia leftist propaganda too?):

"A December 2020 poll showed 77% of Republicans believe widespread fraud occurred during the election. 35% of independent voters also said they believe widespread voter fraud took place. Overall, 60% of Americans believed Biden's win was legitimate, 34% did not, and 6% were unsure. Another poll taken in late December showed a similar result, with 62% of Americans polled believing Biden was the legitimate winner of the election, while 37% did not. This split in popular opinion remained largely stable, with a January 10, 2021, poll commissioned by ABC News showing 68% of Americans believed Biden’s win was legitimate and 32% did not."

Note: Citations are provided in the article.

that man seriously tried to slap a metric ton of "liberal bias" accusations on to you
like do I need to direct this man to your sig, where I can quote you quoting me on why it's a terrible idea to accuse you of partisan bias?

Cryoraptor · Jan 18, 2021

Frankfort42 said:
There's a reason why the Liberals are so miserable and need marijuana or pills to simply function. It's because lying, cheating, manipulating, stealing and basically sinning in general always results in negative outcomes even if on the surface it looks like you've won.

I can't say I've ever smoked pot for any of those things. I've mostly smoked it because I like getting stoned.

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Plasmaster09 said:
that man seriously tried to slap a metric ton of "liberal bias" accusations on to you
like do I need to direct this man to your sig, where I can quote you quoting me on why it's a terrible idea to accuse you of partisan bias?

I'm starting to think he's a troll. Another one bites the dust :rofl2:

Frankfort42 · Jan 18, 2021

Plasmaster09 said:
Even ignoring everything else, Trump catastrophically mishandled this pandemic. It took months and months to get the guy to stop acting like it was "just a flu", let alone wear a mask in public! He's a good chunk of the reason so many people have endangered themselves and others through not taking proper precautions.

I agree his response wasn't perfect, but you do realize what the Left was doing when he was responding? Trump started to take action in late December and got push back from the liberals for 2 months, which during the time they downplayed the virus threat and only were focusing on impeaching Trump. I'm not sure how you can critisize Trump's response when the liberals was 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 worse.

Plasmaster09 said:
Also, from the article djpannda linked:
"Organizers of the protest stated that although Trump was the president, they wanted to show that he did not represent their values."
This is what we meant by "not my President". Sure, he is (or, starting in two days, was) the President of my nation, so he is "my President", but he certainly isn't "my" President in any way, shape or form.

That's about as stupid as claiming things you aren't deadly afraid of are phobias, that black lives are the only lives that matter or there's more than 2 biological sexes.

Cryoraptor · Jan 18, 2021

Frankfort42 said:
I agree his response wasn't perfect, but you do realize what the Left was doing when he was responding? Trump started to take action in late December and got push back from the liberals for 2 months, which during the time they downplayed the virus threat and only were focusing on impeaching Trump. I'm not sure how you can critisize Trump's response when the liberals was 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 worse.

That's about as stupid as claiming things you aren't deadly afraid of are phobias, that black lives are the only lives that matter or there's more than 2 biological sexes.

Yep, troll detected.

Plasmaster09 · Jan 18, 2021

Frankfort42 said:
I agree his response wasn't perfect, but you do realize what the Left was doing when he was responding? Trump started to take action in late December and got push back from the liberals for 2 months, which during the time they downplayed the virus threat and only were focusing on impeaching Trump. I'm not sure how you can critisize Trump's response when the liberals was 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 worse.

That's about as stupid as claiming things you aren't deadly afraid of are phobias, that black lives are the only lives that matter or there's more than 2 biological sexes.

We... didn't downplay the virus.
We were just focused on getting Trump out of office so that we could hopefully put in someone that wouldn't butcher the response so badly.
Also, that last bit is three false equivalencies, a no true scotsman fallacy, the advocacy fallacy, the DARVO gambit, some serious misinformation regarding biological sex ~~and a partridge in a pear tree.~~

UltraDolphinRevolution · Jan 18, 2021

This thread is becoming a toxic construct. We should build a wall between us so we can start to heal.

Cryoraptor · Jan 18, 2021

Plasmaster09 said:
some serious misinformation regarding biological sex

Ok, we can talk about gender identity all we want, I'm not bothered about that. But it's an objective scientific fact that there are two biological sexes. There are two sex chromosomes, ergo there are two sexes. Intersex doesn't count as a third as it's a defect that leads to a combination of the two sexes. Again, gender identity is another discussion and there's a debate to be had on that one, but the duality of the biological sexes is just a fact.

Plasmaster09 · Jan 18, 2021

UltraDolphinRevolution said:
This thread is becoming a toxic construct. We should build a wall between us so we can start to heal.

B-b-but that'd be censorship! Muh freeze peach!

Cryoraptor said:
Ok, we can talk about gender identity all we want, I'm not bothered about that. But it's an objective scientific fact that there are two biological sexes. There are two sex chromosomes, ergo there are two sexes. Intersex doesn't count as a third as it's a defect that leads to a combination of the two sexes. Again, gender identity is another discussion and there's a debate to be had on that one, but the duality of the biological sexes is just a fact.

even if genetic hermaphrodicity or any other "both/neither" are defects, that doesn't make them any less real
"ah yes, my biological sex is DATA OVERFLOW ERROR"
and we both know the "biological sexes" argument frankfort was making was an excuse to shit on gender identity- he probably doesn't even know the difference

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