Pirated Windows 7 to 10

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Here's how it works.

1) despite being cancelled supposedly, the free upgrade STILL works.
2) upgrading non genuine windows works, but the upgraded version is also non genuine. BUT...
3) bios mod or daz loader will fool MS into thinking it's genuine, and thus the upgrade gives you a working digital entitlement. it will even remove the loader for you.
4) while MS tries (and fails) to stop daz loader, they officially do not care about BIOS modding, and do not even try to catch it. If you risk bricking your computer, you deserve the free windows.
5) i have not tested "keep nothing", so i cannot confirm that works. but once you have done an in place upgrade, that motherboard is forever licensed for the windows 10 edition it upgraded to. tested 100%. You can then clean install anytime later, and skip key, and it will reactivate over the net.
6) provided the OEM sells windows 7 ultimate, entering the OEMs slp ultimate key in windows anytime upgrade will update you to genuine ultimate. i'e always disconnected from the net before doing this. This is undetectable without physically inspecting the COA on the computer, and is recommended for genuine OEM windows 7 home computers before the update.
7) the license IS transferable, but only if you tie your old and new computer to the same MS account (live). they added a transfer license feature. you can't use it too many times, but you can move a digital entitlement from one machine to another, and that will deactivate the old one. The SLP windows 7 can never be deactivated.
 
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I'm quite surprised that nobody suggested to install to and boot Windows from a VHD or VHDX drive. This is good for people that doesn't have a spare drive to use and has lots of space on their existing drive.
 

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I'm quite surprised that nobody suggested to install to and boot Windows from a VHD or VHDX drive. This is good for people that doesn't have a spare drive to use and has lots of space on their existing drive.
You could just partition the drive instead, which is usually faster than a virtual drive since the "host" partition can get fragmented.
 

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You could just partition the drive instead, which is usually faster than a virtual drive since the "host" partition can get fragmented.
Yeah that option is better However, many users usually don't leave their hard drive space "unallocated" and resizing the partition where the data resides in is risky, the virtual disk just seems safer and a better option when one doesn't have another drive available, but have a large enough free space available for the existing drive, and plus just securing a legit license for Windows 10 for use in the future, then the virtual drive speed is pretty much negligible, because when they are good and ready to upgrade to Windows 10, they can install it clean without any OS on the drive anyway. AFAIK Windows does tries to save the fixed virtual drive on the most contagious free space chain, so by default it should have little to no fragmentation. With the virtual drive, you can get rid of the messy install within seconds, by deleting the virtual drive and keeping your host/primary OS intact.
I have ran OS off the fixed virtual drive before and the speed while not as fast as native, but still usable.
 
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Yeah that option is better However, many users usually don't leave their hard drive space "unallocated" and resizing the partition where the data resides in is risky, the virtual disk just seems safer and a better option when one doesn't have another drive available, but have a large enough free space available for the existing drive, and plus just securing a legit license for Windows 10 for use in the future, then the virtual drive speed is pretty much negligible, because when they are good and ready to upgrade to Windows 10, they can install it clean without any OS on the drive anyway. AFAIK Windows does tries to save the fixed virtual drive on the most contagious free space chain, so by default it should have little to no fragmentation. With the virtual drive, you can get rid of the messy install within seconds, by deleting the virtual drive and keeping your host/primary OS intact.
I have ran OS off the fixed virtual drive before and the speed while not as fast as native, but still usable.
So like a temporary virtual drive for a Windows 7 installation that's going to get cracked and upgraded to Windows 10 only to get a licence? If the main OS is already Windows 10 (unactivated), I wonder whether it gets automatically activated once the virtual drive is upgraded. Anyway I would reinstall Windows 10 in UEFI mode since legacy mode is required to crack Windows 7 (unless there's a crack that works in UEFI mode that persists during the upgrade).
 

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So like a temporary virtual drive for a Windows 7 installation that's going to get cracked and upgraded to Windows 10 only to get a licence? If the main OS is already Windows 10 (unactivated), I wonder whether it gets automatically activated once the virtual drive is upgraded. Anyway I would reinstall Windows 10 in UEFI mode since legacy mode is required to crack Windows 7 (unless there's a crack that works in UEFI mode that persists during the upgrade).
Yes.
Your unactivated Windows 10 should activate after a simple reboot into it after going through the steps necessary on the virtual drive, and when Windows 10 is activated on the virtual drive, then Windows 10 on your native or real drive should activate automatically after connecting to the internet again, that is in theory anyways. As I believe the license/Hardware ID is recorded on MS server, so I do not see any reason why your host OS will not activate after some time. Even after doing a clean install it should automatically activate and it should activate even under UEFI, the clean install of Windows 10 as long as you have a license generated from before and MS server has it recorded. I remembered I activated Windows 10 by accident in VMWare Workstation several times due to installing multiple Windows 10, the license generation was carried out on the real machine and I was surprised my VM Windows 10 was activated. Perhaps that is just pure luck, but I don't know.
 

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There is something called windSLIC injector that sometimes works on UEFI, but it BRICKS some mother boards so bad that you have to remove the hard drive with windslic to undo the brick, get back into the bios, and switch the boot settings.

Install legacy win 7, use daz loader, download media creation tool, run it, create uefi install media, use it for clean install after the upgrade.

Daz does NOT persist during the upgrade. but it does persist long enough to get the digital entitlement. it's then happily removed during the main install.
 
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Microsoft doesn't seem to care if people use pirated copies or not, just as long as they're using Windows 10 that's what appears to matter to them.

Heck, even the unactivated version is perfectly usable. Except, you can't customize it (not that big of a deal, anyway).
 

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Microsoft doesn't seem to care if people use pirated copies or not, just as long as they're using Windows 10 that's what appears to matter to them.

Heck, even the unactivated version is perfectly usable. Except, you can't customize it (not that big of a deal, anyway).
No customizations? Wallpaper Engine says hello
 
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you can also apparently just sign up fo insider. that gives you free 10 but you have to install the beta versions. i think. :)

Anyway I actually had new information as far as i knew, so that's why i posted.
 
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Cmon just buy a Win 10 license for 2-3$ on ebay - did it several times and works perfect and hasselfree.
 

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Never heard of it. Thanks.

If I ever reinstall W10 I'll give the unactivated version a chance over a pirated copy.
If you use Windows 10 without owning a product key, even if you don't "crack" it, it's still piracy. The EULA requires you to have a valid licence.
You can activate it later, which is useful when you're testing a lot of hardware, but you still need to own a licence.
Also, if you don't activate it, you'll get an annoying watermark, so if you're still going to pirate it (and you shouldn't), you may as well crack it because it's not any less legal.
 
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If you use Windows 10 without owning a product key, even if you don't "crack" it, it's still piracy. The EULA requires you to have a valid licence.
You can activate it later, which is useful when you're testing a lot of hardware, but you still need to own a licence.
Also, if you don't activate it, you'll get an annoying watermark, so if you're still going to pirate it (and you shouldn't), you may as well crack it because it's not any less legal.
I mean, in the case of KMS emulation, or even OEM SLIC table activation, you're not breaking the EULA. You're not using an illegitimate activation method or key as these methods use Microsoft approved licenses that come from unique machine identities (HWID licensing; your product key comes from your hardware). Microsoft has done nothing to prevent either of these methods ever since Vista because they are integral to Windows licensing itself, so they only have themselves to blame for the piracy, but it's not like they really care anyway. If they did, it would be stupendously easy for them to blacklist every machine running an "illegitimate" copy of Windows.
 
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I mean, in the case of KMS emulation, or even OEM SLIC table activation, you're not breaking the EULA. You're not using an illegitimate activation method or key as these methods use Microsoft approved licenses that come from unique machine identities (HWID licensing; your product key comes from your hardware). Microsoft has done nothing to prevent either of these methods ever since Vista because they are integral to Windows licensing itself, so they only have themselves to blame for the piracy, but it's not like they really care anyway. If they did, it would be stupendously easy for them to blacklist every machine running an "illegitimate" copy of Windows.
Maybe not but you're still violating DMCA.
 

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How? No data is being copied, reproduced, or duplicated. Again, the way KMS emulation and OEM SLIC activation work is by using serial numbers unique to your machine. They're loopholes in the licensing mechanism of Windows.
Circumventing copy protection is pretty vague but this certainly falls under that. Using unofficial means to fool something into running on hardware it's not supposed to is very much circumventing copy protection.
 

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