"America wins", you say as rampant voter fraud had spread around the country and a pedophile is preparing to enter the White House as the country burns down, fiddle in hand.
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There is zero evidence presented that "mass voter fraud" took place. Your candidate lost. Grow up and take the L with dignity. Us normal people (dems, along with the rest of the world) have been watching Trump destroy America for the last 4 years. We can finally heal and indict him with his criminal charges.
EFF's Response to Social Media Companies' Decisions to Block President Trump’s Accounts
As all of silicon valley has now banned Trump related campaigning -
Updated 10 hours ago - Technology All the platforms that have banned or restricted Trump so far
https://www.axios.com/platforms-soc...ump-d9e44f3c-8366-4ba9-a8a1-7f3114f920f1.html
Country Star Wives are producing 'pro resistance' videos citing conspiracy theories, not understanding the world anymore:
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/brittany-aldean-conspiracy-theories-1111370/
While silicon valley CEOs call for more than deplatforming:
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/01/08/we-need-more-than-deplatforming/
Why? Partly to whitewash their own actions as of now:
But at least its an invitation to an open discourse and transparency.
How social media can identify "factual voices", and how 'academic research' will help to identify algorithmical solutions - is entirely unknown, but as of yesterday - this - has become our democracy.
While politicians were entirely passive on the issue for years, championing social medias capability to get them more followers.
src: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/...nies-decision-block-president-trumps-accounts
As all of silicon valley has now banned Trump related campaigning -
Updated 10 hours ago - Technology All the platforms that have banned or restricted Trump so far
https://www.axios.com/platforms-soc...ump-d9e44f3c-8366-4ba9-a8a1-7f3114f920f1.html
Country Star Wives are producing 'pro resistance' videos citing conspiracy theories, not understanding the world anymore:
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/brittany-aldean-conspiracy-theories-1111370/
While silicon valley CEOs call for more than deplatforming:
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/01/08/we-need-more-than-deplatforming/
Why? Partly to whitewash their own actions as of now:
src: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/01/08/we-need-more-than-deplatforming/
But at least its an invitation to an open discourse and transparency.
How social media can identify "factual voices", and how 'academic research' will help to identify algorithmical solutions - is entirely unknown, but as of yesterday - this - has become our democracy.
While politicians were entirely passive on the issue for years, championing social medias capability to get them more followers.
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If the US put up their own platform, no one are allowed to be silenced. But since Twitter isn't the US platform, the Corporation behind Twitter can do whatever they want. Heck they can ban others from speaking about competitors to it.
It's not so hard to understand.
Twitter =/= Public
At the same time, those platforms are entirely fulfilling public roles, like informing the public or interpersonal communication, or giving the appearance of being public forums.
If you've become the defacto way how people filter reality these days - the "we just company" defense is out.
Go transparent on your decision structures - or be broken up. Those are your options at this point.
And you - dont know nothing. So easy on promoting your opinion as valuable in this debate. Which is "hail to legally, we are not responsible". No, but societally you are.
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What voter fraud? The one that happened in 2016 with Russia?
There need to be an investigation for sure, but so far. Every "voter fraud" has been debunked.
You don't think Trump might be a kiddie diddler then? He did personally know Epstein after all?
The man that now enters office worked with Obama. He probably going to follow in those footsteps. After all, Obama did bring the US out of a great depression kind of unscaved compared to a lot of other places.
Sure, but the laws of the US is what they all play by right?
Twitter is still a company, they have their rights. The users got theirs. I do however agree that transparent structures are better imho. But this is not the reality we live in.
fuck all social media i don't use any of it. all my family does is fight with each other on it keep me out of it.
You know that GBAtemp fits in the roles of social media? Forums have been social media before the word was invented
gbatemp moderators for impunity on public censorship - without the public knowing the ruleset.
(Using the argument, that doesnt matter - legally they can still act as private entities. Horray.)
The powertrip hasnt reached their brains yet. We'll check again in a few hours.
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From its first post this thread is appallingly dishonest. If you need a law to prevent you from stifling the speech of others, then you are likely a person without principles. That's why the government requires the first amendment to keep it in check no matter who is running it, and that is why twitter should require similar safeguards to prevent it from abusing its power over the social domain. All this politically motivated sneering and corporate dick sucking against the principle of freedom of expression, one of our fundamental human rights, is disgusting and you should all be ashamed of yourselves.
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Also, lets be very clear here - Trump probably (the thing is, no one knows why) was banned from Twitter NOT for inciting violence, but for propagating election fraud lies.
So by what standard of public opinion are we now banning public reach?
Because, then ban the state department account after Collin Powell lied in front of the UN, or the White House twitter, after pretty much any declaration of war in recent years.
So who is the arbitor of truth in this instance - and if you go with 'the private company that owns public communication, and their business friends' - be consequent, and end democracy now.
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Again - I'll check in two hours from now, once your brain started working. And you stopped trying to send a mob of self proclaimed white knights after me.
While arguably destroying the basis for democracy - in an evening, because - under current lights, everyone sees it as rectified to engage private company rights, against the sphere of public opinion.
Lets close the agora then - the person who owns it called.
So by what standard of public opinion are we now banning public reach?
Because, then ban the state department account after Collin Powell lied in front of the UN, or the White House twitter, after pretty much any declaration of war in recent years.
So who is the arbitor of truth in this instance - and if you go with 'the private company that owns public communication, and their business friends' - be consequent, and end democracy now.
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I beg you to understand, that I'm not a Trump fan, I'm left leaning, I'm european - and you are trying to mobilize a mob against me for holding the EFFs position.
Again - I'll check in two hours from now, once your brain started working. And you stopped trying to send a mob of self proclaimed white knights after me.
While arguably destroying the basis for democracy - in an evening, because - under current lights, everyone sees it as rectified to engage private company rights, against the sphere of public opinion.
Lets close the agora then - the person who owns it called.
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You really swallowed the bait, hook and sinker...
I guess some of these people here think I should have full rights to call them child molesters and speak lies about them where ever I want. After all, doing anything less would "infringe on my freedom of speech."
Who defines the bait.
The bait is in the setup.
Currently everyone has to declare - that he/she is so for the shunning, and deplattforming, because - look what happend, but hey are also for civil rights.
I'm fine with that.
I'm not fine with your position, that the companies who caused the issue, should now be able to play arbitors of public opinion, based on a nonpublic ruleset - acting from a point of impunity, censoring public opinion based on, and this is important -
the "real" risk, of someone inciting violence in the future.
If you are unable to differentiate those points, and instead want to accuse me to be 'with the terrorists', while at the same time arguing for how democracy should be upended by a private interpretation of 'we dont want you on our platform' - in the case of a top level political debate in your country - then I argue, that you swallowed the bait, hookline and sinker.
There has to be space for voices that point out - that by 'defending' democracy in this way, you are destroying democracy as well.
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You do have that right, you know. People exercise it every day to call each other the worst things you can imagine. The only thing you need be aware of is that there are legal avenues open to your targets for the most egregious lies.
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