Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

stanleyopar2000 · Dec 13, 2020

I predict Trump supporting congressman and congresswomen are going to secede the GOP once their term is up and will Heil the newly formed MAGA party.

traditional republicans like what McCain was, Mitt Romney and others who are voicing their opinions against usurping Democracy, will stay in the GOP while people like Jim Jordan, Ted Cruz and others will gladly join to double down on their base.

smf · Dec 13, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
I swear, there's a Stonetoss comic for everything.

I swear you don't understand why race being a social construct and also needing racial diversity makes sense.

A social construct still exists. A social construct is something that exists not in objective reality, but as a result of human interaction. It exists because humans agree that it exists.

If you only hire white people, then you constructed it.

UltraSUPRA · Dec 13, 2020

smf said:
I swear you don't understand why race being a social construct and also needing racial diversity makes sense.

A social construct still exists. A social construct is something that exists not in objective reality, but as a result of human interaction. It exists because humans agree that it exists.

Race is biological. It exists in objective reality.

SonowRaevius · Dec 13, 2020

smf said:
I swear you don't understand why race being a social construct and also needing racial diversity makes sense.

A social construct still exists.

I would just ignore when he postsany pictures, he's already admitted twice in this very topic that he hasn't understood what he was posting before and stating that he "just did it for memes" , that he barely has a year of political knowledge under his belt, and is home-schooled by his delusional, conspiracy theory believing parents.

UltraSUPRA · Dec 13, 2020

SonowRaevius said:
he's already admitted twice in this very topic that he hasn't understood what he was posting before and stating that he "just did it for memes"

That applied to one meme. I've read every Stonetoss comic multiple times.

smf · Dec 13, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
Race is biological. It exists in objective reality.

No, biologically it's complicated.

https://www.vox.com/2014/10/10/6943461/race-social-construct-origins-census

In effect, race was created by racists.

Foxi4 · Dec 13, 2020

smf said:
Right, so if you think of Californians as different and are prejudiced against them then it says more about you than them. It doesn't matter whether it's because of their ancestry or choice of location to live.

They're still not a race, but you're welcome to think whatever you want, even if it's inane. In regards to race being a construct, the consensus is there more so because nobody wants to rock that boat rather than because it's unquestionably true. Sadly, discussing taxonomical differences between various races and ethnicities often leads to talk of supremacy, so most people prefer to keep that can of worms closed, especially after what happened in the 20th century. Dawkins speaks on that matter at length and once explained why avoiding the discussion of race as a biological fact rather than a social construct is a mistake that sets science and medicine back. If differences in the genome were explored properly without the stigma of "racist research" hanging over the endeavour, many preventable diseases could be mitigated before they cause damage in ethnic groups that are particularly susceptible to them.

https://time.com/91081/what-science-says-about-race-and-genetics/

Sadly we can't have such nice things and the subject will always be a field of egg shells that must be danced around. Can't be helped, I suppose. The idea that humans who evolved under vastly different conditions are exactly the same, or that evolution got to a certain point and then suddenly stopped, is not just silly on the face of it - it's flat out wrong. Humans have adapted and continue to adapt to their surroundings, regardless of whether we think that's racist or not.

UltraSUPRA · Dec 13, 2020

smf said:
No, biologically it's more diverse than you can comprehend but stick to your old ideas.

So what you're saying is that race is biological, and we can't just categorize people into white/black/Asian. The belief that race matters is, in itself, racist, as unlike with other biological groups, there is literally nothing that a white person can do but a black person can't, or vice versa.

SonowRaevius · Dec 13, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
That applied to one meme. I've read every Stonetoss comic multiple times.

Imagine actually reading the tripe from a holocaust denier, posting his comic that advocates it, and then trying to defend that you still read him and then acting like it was a cool thing to post said comic under the notion you didn't understand.

Back to your lame excuse though, you unironically posted a "meme" that tried to say the hand sanitizer is communistic as well.

So either you understand clearly what you're posting or you're an ignorant teenager that just doesn't understand anything at all and are just parroting points because you were told those points were "correct" or because you're easily influenced/gullible.

Pick a lane and stay in it please.

AmandaRose · Dec 13, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
I swear, there's a Stonetoss comic for everything.

Oh you are still posting from this well known racist Nazi supporting comic strip I see.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/StoneToss

https://amp.reddit.com/r/antifaston..._definitive_guide_to_why_stonetoss_is_a_nazi/

smf · Dec 13, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
So what you're saying is that race is biological, and we can't just categorize people into white/black/Asian.

What I'm saying is that you can have a white person and a black person that have more in common in their dna, than two black people.

Humans like to classify things & we make a mess up of it. For example lots of things with fish and berry in their name, are not fish or berries.

Foxi4 · Dec 13, 2020

smf said:
What I'm saying is that you can have a white person and a black person that have more in common in their dna, than two black people.

Humans like to classify things & we make a mess up of it. For example lots of things with fish and berry in their name, are not fish or berries.

This is also correct for other species that have distinct subspecies or breeds and is not evidence of race having no/negligible biological component. All of humanity share the same set of genes, and those genes have the same sets of alleles. Race is instead determined by allele frequency, as well as larger allele constructs. If I recall correctly, just skin colour alone is determined by five separate genes, and there are multiple configurations that create similar results. If race had no biological markers, tracing one's ancestry back across generations on the basis of DNA would simply be impossible, and it's common practice contemporarily, not to mention exceedingly accurate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_genetics

For the record, the human DNA shares 60% of genetic material with a banana, so we're talking about very subtle differences here. If we were basing things on genetic similarity alone, we would quickly end up with quite hilarious conclusions. It's complicated, as you say.

UltraSUPRA · Dec 13, 2020

AmandaRose said:
Oh you are still posting from this well known racist Nazi supporting comic strip I see.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/StoneToss

https://rottenwebsites.miraheze.org/wiki/RationalWiki

AmandaRose said:
https://amp.reddit.com/r/antifaston..._definitive_guide_to_why_stonetoss_is_a_nazi/

Funny Comics Man: "Hey, look! Everyone you called a Nazi on social media actually really likes foreign entertainment!"
Commies: "Of course!"

Listen, I understand that Stonetoss isn't for everyone, but if the best you've got is some Resdit post, then you'll have to try harder.
I wonder what political webcomics you read...Breadpanels?

AmandaRose · Dec 13, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
https://rottenwebsites.miraheze.org/wiki/RationalWiki

Funny Comics Man: "Hey, look! Everyone you called a Nazi on social media actually really likes foreign entertainment!"
Commies: "Of course!"

Listen, I understand that Stonetoss isn't for everyone, but if the best you've got is some Resdit post, then you'll have to try harder.
I wonder what political webcomics you read...Breadpanels?

I don't read any political comics you know because I am not brain dead or easily lead.

And for the record if you don't belive in the holocaust then sorry you are clearly a nazi supporter. And sorry there are thousands of reports on the interwebs about how the comic strip is racist.

smf · Dec 13, 2020

Foxi4 said:
If race had no biological markers, tracing one's ancestry back across generations on the basis of DNA would simply be impossible, and it's common practice contemporary, not to mention exceedingly accurate.

No, you've misunderstood. DNA obviously is inherited & can be traced through ancestors. That there is a distinct race, is something we made up, https://www.popsci.com/story/science/dna-tests-myth-ancestry-race/

As a result, someone with a high estimate of West African ancestry might not look or even identify as black. Similarly, an individual whose tests come back with a very low estimate of West African ancestry might actually be black.

That’s why geneticists haven’t devised a test that can conclusively determine a person’s race. And in a way, it’s impossible. Race is about how we identify and are identified; it’s more than a question of appearance—it’s a question of culture, history, geography, and family. It can’t be boiled down to genetics and percentages.

We could make up 100 different races if we wanted to.

UltraSUPRA · Dec 13, 2020

AmandaRose said:
And for the record if you don't belive in the holocaust then sorry you are clearly a nazi supporter.

Again, those three comics where Stonetoss denies the Holocaust are his only misses.

AmandaRose · Dec 13, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
Again, those three comics where Stonetoss denies the Holocaust are his only misses.

I will give you some friendly advice kid. Posting shit from stonetoss does not help your argument at all. Especially if you are not racist or a nazi supporter yourself. If you want to be taken seriously here stop posting stonetoss shit.

UltraSUPRA · Dec 13, 2020

AmandaRose said:
I will give you some friendly advice kid. Posting shit from stonetoss does not help your argument at all. Especially if you are not racist or a nazi supporter yourself. If you want to be taken seriously here stop posting stonetoss shit.

I have alternatives.

smf · Dec 13, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
Funny Comics Man: "Hey, look! Everyone you called a Nazi on social media actually really likes foreign entertainment!"
Commies: "Of course!"

You can hold two opposing views, you can be racist but have black friends for example (the "he's one of the good ones" delusion) or even be racist against your own race ("I'm one of the good ones" delusion).

Foxi4 · Dec 13, 2020

smf said:
No, you've misunderstood. DNA obviously is inherited & can be traced. That there is a distinct race, is something we made up.

I haven't "misunderstood" anything, the fact that DNA is inherited is precisely what allows science to delineate racial characteristics. These things have practical applications, ignoring them has real life consequences. For instance, "black" americans are 50% more likely to suffer from lung cancer, 3 times more likely to suffer from asthma and a staggering 16 times more likely to die from lung scarring compared to their "white" peers, in spite of statistically being exposed to less cigarette smoke. These figures are in part caused by socio-economic factors, but it is also likely that there are genetic components that contribute to the current state of affairs. We can use genetics in order to preemptively determine risks and deploy preventative medicine in order to improve those figures. Your genetic ancestry plays a role in your overall health, there are associated risk factors here that are certainly worth considering.

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