Hacking I don't have brick protection at all

PeterWinter · Dec 8, 2020

Hello guys, how's it going?

I've recently bought a second hand Wii that already came in softmodded, with HBC, a USB loader, and also an ugly system theme. So, because I wanted to change the theme, I was doing some research on it and stumbled upon some "brick warnings", which pointed out that it's smart to have bootmii on boot2 or Priiloader. That made me aware that I don't have either, so here's the thing:
- Modmii says it cannot be installed on boot2, only as an ISO, which I already have installed.
- Priiloader states very clear in their wiki that it might brick my console if I have custom ISOs, which I do.

Here's my syslog

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.3U (v513)

Drive date: 12.18.2008
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x21
Console ID:

Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: Brazil (16)
Boot2 v4
Found 90 titles.
Found 49 IOS on this console. 10 of them are stubs.

IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 2816): Stub
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 5120, Info: rev 4889): No Patches
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 6400, Info: rev 6174): No Patches
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 6912, Info: rev 6687): No Patches
IOS80 (rev 6944): Trucha Bug
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[37] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS249[56] (rev 21007, Info: d2x-v7): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v7): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 12/04/2020.

So that raises the question: how can I install any sort of brick protection, such as Priiloader, on my Wii without the risk of bricking it in the first place?

jeannotte · Dec 8, 2020

Hello,

Considering your syscheck report, install either the version of cios d2x in final version 8 or version 10 beta 52 (these are the two best versions of cios), with Modmii. (If you wish you can repost a new syscheck report, for control)

Install Bootmii in IOS (you have already done it).

To install bootmii in boot 2, it was the first wii released (don't ask me in what year).

Make a Nand backup of your wii with bootmii.

Then install Priiloader, it's here ==>https://wii.guide/priiloader.html

Take all the precautions to install a new theme. :teach:

PeterWinter · Dec 8, 2020

Thanks! Do I really need to install these other CIOSs? I've also posted an issue in Priiloader's github repo and got a quick answer saying that based on my syslog everything should go just fine. Can you vouch for it? If I install Priiloader the way it is, will it go ok?

jeannotte · Dec 8, 2020

PeterWinter said:
Thanks! Do I really need to install these other CIOSs?

Yes

PeterWinter said:
Can you vouch for it? If I install Priiloader the way it is, will it go ok?

Yes install Priiloader

PeterWinter · Dec 8, 2020

Wait... So, if I can install Priiloader the way it is, it means that I don't really need to install the other CISOs, right?

MichiS97 · Dec 8, 2020

PeterWinter said:
Wait... So, if I can install Priiloader the way it is, it means that I don't really need to install the other CISOs, right?

You should install the mentioned cIOS versions because that means you won't run into any compatibility issues along the way. It's perfectly safe, don't worry

PeterWinter · Dec 8, 2020

Ok, will do that in just a sec and post the new syslog

Maq47 · Dec 8, 2020

Also, do you have a NAND backup? Priiloader/BootMii won't help much without it.

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

Also, you might already have Priiloader. Completely shut down your Wii by holding Power until the light turns red, then hold Reset and press Power while still holding it. What appears?

PeterWinter · Dec 8, 2020

Yes, I do have a nand backup.
No, I don't have Priiloader yet.

XFlak · Dec 8, 2020

MarcusCarter said:
Also, do you have a NAND backup? Priiloader/BootMii won't help much without it.

Also, you might already have Priiloader. Completely shut down your Wii by holding Power until the light turns red, then hold Reset and press Power while still holding it. What appears?

Priiloader would be listed in his syscheck if installed

Easiest solution, in my opinion, open your syscheck using ModMii for windows, it will tell you exactly what optimizations should be done (and skip many that might be redundant). It will build you a custom guide based on your syscheck, then provide you with all the necessary files for your sd card in order to follow the steps listed in your custom guide.

Edit:

PeterWinter said:
- Modmii says it cannot be installed on boot2, only as an ISO, which I already have installed.

I just wanted to add that I think it's funny how the OP has referenced modmii (when he really meant bootmii). I know often ppl mix these things up, but somewhere in the OPs travels he picked up the term ModMii and yet appears to not be familiar with the actual tool

PeterWinter · Dec 8, 2020

Made it. Here's the syscheck

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.3U (v513)

Drive date: 12.18.2008
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x21
Console ID:

Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: Brazil (16)
Boot2 v4
Found 90 titles.
Found 50 IOS on this console. 10 of them are stubs.

IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 2816): Stub
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 5120, Info: rev 4889): No Patches
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 6400, Info: rev 6174): No Patches
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 6912, Info: rev 6687): No Patches
IOS80 (rev 6944): Trucha Bug
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[37] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS249[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[58] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 04/19/2010.

Now I can install Priiloader, right?

MichiS97 · Dec 8, 2020

PeterWinter said:
Made it. Here's the syscheck

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.3U (v513)

Drive date: 12.18.2008
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x21
Console ID:
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: Brazil (16)
Boot2 v4
Found 90 titles.
Found 50 IOS on this console. 10 of them are stubs.

IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 2816): Stub
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 5120, Info: rev 4889): No Patches
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 6400, Info: rev 6174): No Patches
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 6912, Info: rev 6687): No Patches
IOS80 (rev 6944): Trucha Bug
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[37] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS249[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[58] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 04/19/2010.

Now I can install Priiloader, right?

of course you can

PeterWinter · Dec 8, 2020

XFlak said:
I just wanted to add that I think it's funny how the OP has referenced modmii (when he really meant bootmii). I know often ppl mix these things up, but somewhere in the OPs travels he picked up the term ModMii and yet appears to not be familiar with the actual tool

Oh, I didn't even notices that I mixed those up lol. It's probably because yesterday I was googling about what this tool is, since it came in with the SD card.

Maq47 · Dec 8, 2020

XFlak said:
Priiloader would be listed in his syscheck if installed

Easiest solution, in my opinion, open your syscheck using ModMii for windows, it will tell you exactly what optimizations should be done (and skip many that might be redundant). It will build you a custom guide based on your syscheck, then provide you with all the necessary files for your sd card in order to follow the steps listed in your custom guide.

Edit:

I just wanted to add that I think it's funny how the OP has referenced modmii (when he really meant bootmii). I know often ppl mix these things up, but somewhere in the OPs travels he picked up the term ModMii and yet appears to not be familiar with the actual tool

OMG, the almighty XFlak replied to me! xD Glad to see you haven't completely left the scene (although ModMii hasn't seen an 'update' in a while, although it doesn't really need one

)

I honestly wish Wii Mini/BlueBomb support could be added, but I don't think it's 100% necessary, however.

PeterWinter · Dec 8, 2020

I installed it guys! Everything worked fine! Many thanks to everyone, you guys rock!

tswntk · Dec 9, 2020

PeterWinter said:
I installed it guys! Everything worked fine! Many thanks to everyone, you guys rock!

Please note that if you install a theme (custom or stock) you overwrite priiloader
So either live with the ugly theme or take every precaution and follow the instructions exactly to install a new theme or else you are still not brick protected.

XFlak · Dec 9, 2020

Not true, installing a theme does not uninstall priiloader. Installing a completely new system menu does (or reinstalling the same one), but just a theme, does not.

MarcusCarter said:
OMG, the almighty XFlak replied to me! xD Glad to see you haven't completely left the scene (although ModMii hasn't seen an 'update' in a while, although it doesn't really need one )

I honestly wish Wii Mini/BlueBomb support could be added, but I don't think it's 100% necessary, however.

Thanks! An update is just about ready, bluebomb won't be added but str2hax and some other things will be. Mainly just need to finish some new guide videos and it will be ready. I'm not sure if it will be ready before 2021 but if will be close!

tswntk · Dec 9, 2020

XFlak said:
Not true, installing a theme does not uninstall priiloader. Installing a completely new system menu does (or reinstalling the same one), but just a theme, does not.

Yeah thank. I have bootmii@boot2 and I know what not to do so I never really thought about it but then I saw so many posts about bricking Wii by installing themes

XFlak · Dec 9, 2020

Yup, all those theme bricks could have recovered by having priiloader installed (or bootmii @ boot2) before messing around with themes, same goes for banner bricks by installing 'bad' channels. Randomness, I think banner bricks will only crash the console if the problematic channel is on the first page of the system menu, so some folks may have been able to survive this type of brick even without priiloader or bootmii@boot2. Consider that your fun wii fact for the day, lol

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