Big nothing from soomeone who wont reveal who they accept as a reliable news source and do nothing other endlessly shitpost
Dude I don't know what your problem is or why you're so obsessed with what news outlets I regard as trustworthy. All I said is that I don't think anyone had recently quoted CNN and you pulled bullshit out of thin air. What the hell are you going on about?
On the other hand, there are still ongoing lawsuits, so the real score won't be known until they are all over. In my opinion, such fraud allegations, let it be testimonial, material or statistical, are indeed serious, and should be properly examined.
Agreed that accusations should be investigated - a stance that I hold across the board for all kinds of legal proceedings. However, at what point does this become a "boy who cried wolf" situation? We've got endless accusations of "widespread voter fraud" with no substantial evidence (read: facts, things that have been proven to have actually happened), nothing evidence-wise officially submitted to courts, no arrests records, nothing. What we do have is 41 lawsuits, all but one of which have been thrown out, and the one that succeeded didn't even have anything to do with votes being fraudulent. When does it become ridiculous? 400 lawsuits? 4000 lawsuits? 400000000000000000000? Do we just keep hearing lawsuits about this until the heat death of the universe?
That's not an answer I have, obviously, nor do I think it's really one that you or I could even have any meaningful input on anyway. But you've got to agree that at some point, enough has to be enough, doesn't it?
Finally, it is possible that the results were indeed reversed due to fraud but that it isn't provable by the legal standard (the same way an innocent might be pronounced guilty in court and vice-versa).
Sure, but if that was the case, we'd also never know - or at least there's a chance we'd never know at a point where it's going to impact much of anything. Why is the overarching attitude from the right that THIS election, for some reason, has to be proven to have NOT been fraudulent, where it's pretty well accepted that every other election in this nation's history hasn't been fraudulent, rather than the burden of proof being on them being to prove that it WAS fraudulent, as it goes with everything else. This goes back to my point, and that of MANY others, that there has been no evidence found of widespread voter fraud, and the DOJ and Attorney General concluded the same.
I think this bit is probably not true: "crowd-sourced blog where anyone can add anything they want". I couldn't find the purposefully fake entry another user tried to add as a test, not even among the 1000 unverified claims which are clearly separated from the others (and which, I don't deny, have a lower bar for acceptance).
You'll have to forgive me for not slogging through this entire... thing, but here's a few examples I found of why this is unreliable at best. ctrl+f the claims.
Claim: [email protected]
Source: https://hereistheevidence.com/I requested an absentee ballot and mailed it-The Dept of state said they have no record of my request for a ballot.I voted for Trump and do believe my ballot was thrown out.In 2016-three times when I voted for Trump ,the machine would switch to Democrat and I had to get the supervisor to correct it.Two of my friends said they had same problem with the voting machines.When I called Luzerne to tell the problem, they said they never had a problem which I knew was not true
Claim: Donald Trump has a tiny cock
Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...trump-salacious-detail-and-claims-of-cheating
Claim: Voting machines are susceptible to occasional random bit flips due
Source: https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/attack-of-the-cosmic-rays-v2
Claim: President of Ghana
Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/RaYsgpGVGblY
Claim: Biden under performed Hillary in every city but 6
Source: https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...yes-i-think-this-election-was-stolen-n2579970
Claim: Biden did NOT underperform Hillary in all but 6 cities
Source: https://www.nationalreview.com/corn...nly-improve-in-four-major-swing-state-cities/
And it is indeed almost certainly the person(s) behind the website are pro-Trump and are collecting and curating info from other sources; it doesn't make it an illegitimate enterprise (as the tone of the post might suggest - I might be mistaken), nor it makes them the sole subject of the matter with instantanous dismissal of the evidence presented (which I don't accuse you of).
Building off of the above, that's kind of the crux of it, isn't it? Does the lack of any information on who's running it make it an illegitimate enterprise? No, it's pretty clearly a website that's doing its self-prescribed job of collecting user-submitted info. Does it make it worthy of instantaneous dismissal? I'll give a reluctant "no" to that too. But you've got people who don't know how to properly fill out two text fields on a submission form, things that are obvious troll, things that are wholly unrelated, and blatantly conflicting information. You don't know who's submitting these things, you don't know who's running the website, you don't know who's determining the "admissibility", you don't know who's calculating the "significance", you don't seem to have anyone doing anything to prevent obviously bunk info from getting submitted. For a party who's so concerned over the fact that there wasn't enough transparency or accountability in this election, it's quite a stark contrast to see the total opacity and anonymity that this website is fronting. If I'm not supposed to trust something that objectively had more transparency and accountability (the election) then why should I put any faith in something (the website) that has none of that? I'd say how this website as a whole has as much credibility as 4chan, but that's what got us these dumbasses who believe in Qanon.
"hereistheevidence" - No, here's a list of random bullshit, find something that fits your narrative.
Edit - I knew I forgot something. With regards to: "I couldn't find the purposefully fake entry another user tried to add as a test, not even among the 1000 unverified claims which are clearly separated from the others"
I don't even know that anything on here IS being verified, least not by the owner(s) of this website. And if it is, then again... who?
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