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Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

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If both sides are saying you are biased, then you aren't biased.

You seem more biased than them.

I'm bias lol I never claimed to be neutral or some sort of mediator like they claim too be, and no. Nobody on the left is claiming they're bias. It's a leftwing shithole, hence why you linked to their bias bs. all good.
 

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Just read a whole load of old tweets by Trump criticising the amount of times Barack Obama played golf in the 8 years he was president. Which is hilarious because in the 8 years Obama played golf 333 times. Trump in his less than 4 years as president has played golf 301 times since becoming President, and that's as of Nov. 27, 2020.

Does Trump not even realize the amount of shit he talks.
 

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I'm bias lol I never claimed to be neutral or some sort of mediator like they claim too be, and no. Nobody on the left is claiming they're bias. It's a leftwing shithole, hence why you linked to their bias bs. all good.

As I said, you only claim they are biased because you are biased. The more you protest they are biased, the more you prove me right.

If you had some evidence they were biased, or even that they were wrong then you would give it.

All you have is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

You should hold all evidence, whether you believe it or not, to the same standard.

Just read a whole load of old tweets by Trump criticising the amount of times Barack Obama played golf in the 8 years he was president. Which is hilarious because in the 8 years Obama played golf 333 times. Trump in his less than 4 years as president has played golf 301 times since becoming President, and that's as of Nov. 27, 2020.

Does Trump not even realize the amount of shit he talks.

Trump is only interested in manipulating people to his own ends, therefore he can take contrary positions if it achieves that goal at a particular time. Facts aren't important. The problem with someone so low on morals is even if you believe in whatever story he's feeding you today, he could walk all over you tomorrow.

For example, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University
 
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question: when will he officially be the president? my google home still says that trump is the president

Inauguration Day is when Biden will become the President of the United States of America. Right now he hasn't even won the election as the Electoral College hasn't voted yet. Biden is only projected to be the winner. He hasn't officially won yet. Your Google Home is correct.
 
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Insulting other members in this forum is against the rules?


Did Biden's plan includes phasing out the SSDI? Does he have something better to replace it with? Or perhaps beef up the SSI to match that to SSDI? I'm curious.
here's your answerers biden's gonna reverse damage trump did to SSI/DI and even beef it up

https://joebiden.com/disabilities/#
 

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gonna be interesting once people realize you cannot introduce evidence in an appeal. all of these cases that have been thrown out can be appealed, but only on the original evidence.

if these cases keep getting thrown out like they are, none of them can ever get to the SCOTUS.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...eme-court-b1763372.html?utm_source=reddit.com


Presuming that there is actual evidence to prove widespread fraud charges on a national level, I assume that these cases that are being thrown out aren't intended to win or lose. They are intended to introduce doubt over validity of the election results into the courtroom and to invoke the respective judges to make a position on the matter. That way, after widespread fraud is proven beyond a doubt (via completely different federal case), the positions that the judges made can be used for political rhetoric to make those judges look bad and to force them out in their next election cycle--assisting Trump in making America more autocratic, and expeditious for his goals. This is a wild theory, and will be proven right or wrong in time. It seems like something Trump would do if he, or allies, really had damning evidence.
 

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Presuming that there is actual evidence to prove widespread fraud charges on a national level, I assume that these cases that are being thrown out aren't intended to win or lose. They are intended to introduce doubt over validity of the election results into the courtroom and to invoke the respective judges to make a position on the matter. That way, after widespread fraud is proven beyond a doubt (via completely different federal case), the positions that the judges made can be used for political rhetoric to make those judges look bad and to force them out in their next election cycle--assisting Trump in making America more autocratic, and expeditious for his goals. This is a wild theory, and will be proven right or wrong in time. It seems like something Trump would do if he, or allies, really had damning evidence.

all that's gonna happen is people losing their law license. these people can't claim "widespread fraud" because it doesn't exist. they keep getting thrown out of court (1 win to 39+ losses). if they make that claim without evidence they can and will be punished with either censure or disbarment. the most recent case had a 0-3 ruling with all three of the judges being republican. if we are lucky, the GOP will split right in half between the oldschool GOP and the new Trumplicans (Trump only republicans), killing the party for the foreseeable future. it is plainly evident when you see stuff like

Trump Supporters in Georgia Ask RNC Chair Why They Should Vote in Runoffs When System Is 'Rigged'.

The republicans are facing conflicting realities.

reality 1:

all elections are being cheated, so why should i bother voting?

or

reality 2:

the coming runoff elections are not cheated, and by extension neither was the presidential election.

both realities cannot exist, one must be picked, but both are shitty for Trumplicans.

we are basically seeing what happened to the Whig party, with it splitting and because first past the post makes it mathematically impossible for there to be 3 parties, the one that splits loses to the party that didn't by default.
 

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all that's gonna happen is people losing their law license. these people can't claim "widespread fraud" because it doesn't exist.

Okay. You might be right that widespread fraud doesn't exist. But saying that it doesn't exist and that there's not enough supporting evidence to prove it exists are two distinct things. You can't prove something doesn't exist, unless you are able to revamp the whole system to a level of transparent that can convince every skeptical person--which will probably never ever happen. Even if you think it is reasonable to assume that the system's flaws doesn't outweigh its ability to function, there are going to be people who disagree with you.

they keep getting thrown out of court (1 win to 39+ losses). if they make that claim without evidence they can and will be punished with either censure or disbarment.

All of those cases have at least some bullshit quantifier of "evidence" though it's not nearly enough to prove anything other than there is a doubt/contention--which seems to be the intent.


the coming runoff elections are not cheated, and by extension neither was the presidential election.

both realities cannot exist, one must be picked, but both are shitty for Trumplicans.

If the elections are rigged, they have to be restructured in a way that appeases the aggrieving parties before they would vote again.
 
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Speaking of "wide-spread voter fraud"...

Joint Statement from Elections Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council & the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Executive Committees
https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/1...ture-government-coordinating-council-election
WASHINGTON – The members of Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council (GCC) Executive Committee – Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) Assistant Director Bob Kolasky, U.S. Election Assistance Commission Chair Benjamin Hovland, National Association of Secretaries of State (NASS) President Maggie Toulouse Oliver, National Association of State Election Directors (NASED) President Lori Augino, and Escambia County (Florida) Supervisor of Elections David Stafford – and the members of the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council (SCC) – Chair Brian Hancock (Unisyn Voting Solutions), Vice Chair Sam Derheimer (Hart InterCivic), Chris Wlaschin (Election Systems & Software), Ericka Haas (Electronic Registration Information Center), and Maria Bianchi (Democracy Works) - released the following statement:
“The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result."
"There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised".

“Other security measures like pre-election testing, state certification of voting equipment, and the U.S. Election Assistance Commission’s (EAC) certification of voting equipment help to build additional confidence in the voting systems used in 2020."
“While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too. When you have questions, turn to elections officials as trusted voices as they administer elections.”
Failed to fetch tweet https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1332831164499898369
 

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...we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too. When you have questions, turn to elections officials as trusted voices as they administer elections.
I find humor in this kind of thing. It's like the trademark thing that is said of a company or institution as it is facing a hacking crisis. It's kind of a platitude at this point. I'd personally be more interested in something that could demonstrate a proof of resistance or a solution that didn't hide behind closed-source devices hooked up to the internet.
 

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gonna be interesting once people realize you cannot introduce evidence in an appeal. all of these cases that have been thrown out can be appealed, but only on the original evidence.

And why don't you think a biased republican judge couldn't just reverse the decision on the original evidence?

It might be a smoke screen to rile the republican senators into ignoring the vote, like in pennsylvania.

The are forced to act because of overwhelming fake manufactured evidence from fake Trump and fake Rudy.
Trumps legal team hope to repeat that elsewhere. All you need to do is find some dumb republican senators.
 
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As I said, you only claim they are biased because you are biased. The more you protest they are biased, the more you prove me right.

If you had some evidence they were biased, or even that they were wrong then you would give it.

All you have is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

You should hold all evidence, whether you believe it or not, to the same standard.



Trump is only interested in manipulating people to his own ends, therefore he can take contrary positions if it achieves that goal at a particular time. Facts aren't important. The problem with someone so low on morals is even if you believe in whatever story he's feeding you today, he could walk all over you tomorrow.

For example, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University

https://www.dailywire.com/news/fact-check-snopes-biased-read-fact-check-erica-james-barrett

https://medium.com/@Dissension/how-snopes-lies-and-misleads-readers-2b06f4cab9b4

https://newspunch.com/snopes-caught-lying-for-hillary-again-questions-raised/

ok bro

Naturally, google wouldn't link to any of these. I had to use an actual good search engine with no lefty bias
 
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Naturally, google wouldn't link to any of these. I had to use an actual good search engine with no lefty bias

So righty biased search engine finding righty biased articles that claim snopes lied without evidence.

This is a particularly tortured thought process. "The accusation that what she did was unethical is ignorant, but Snopes’ deceitful and misleading denial of what she did is just partisan spin."

Similarly ridiculous is Snopes’ claim that Hillary “did not assert that the complainant ‘made up the rape story.’” She pleaded that her client was not guilty, meaning that she argued in court that he didn’t rape the victim.

It means no such thing, it sounds like the person who wrote that doesn't understand the law or what lawyers do. Forwarding a not guilty plea from a client does not mean anything, other than the client said they were not guilty.

I'll stick to google, it seems to have much more reliable results based on reality rather than fantasy. It gives me less lies to debunk.
 
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So righty biased search engine finding righty biased articles that claim snopes lied without evidence.

This is a particularly tortured thought process. "The accusation that what she did was unethical is ignorant, but Snopes’ deceitful and misleading denial of what she did is just partisan spin."

Similarly ridiculous is Snopes’ claim that Hillary “did not assert that the complainant ‘made up the rape story.’” She pleaded that her client was not guilty, meaning that she argued in court that he didn’t rape the victim.

It means no such thing, it sounds like the person who wrote that doesn't understand the law or what lawyers do. Forwarding a not guilty plea from a client does not mean anything, other than the client said they were not guilty.

I'll stick to google, it seems to have much more reliable results based on reality rather than fantasy. It gives me less lies to debunk.

One was hiding results, the other wasn't. Remind me whos bias again? Going round in circles. I like how you dismiss the articles as "righty spin" but when i point out Snopes is lefty bullshit i have to bow at that altar.
 

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One was hiding results, the other wasn't. Remind me whos bias again? Going round in circles. I like how you dismiss the articles as "righty spin" but when i point out Snopes is lefty bullshit i have to bow at that altar.
And yet snopes is concidered to be center by the respected website allsides who rate if a site is left or right by reviewing all content on the site. So hardly lefty bullshit as claimed.

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/snopes
 
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