Nreal Light mixed reality headset consumer kit debuts in South Korea

Skelletonike · Aug 11, 2020

Damn, I want one of those. A bit pricey though.
This can go both ways, either it ends up being a fad like 3D and pass after a while, or it can become increasingly popular like VR.

HideoKojima · Aug 11, 2020

It's too early for VR, as long as PS and Microsoft didn't adopt it, there won't be any good games or content just like the Quest.

Xzi · Aug 11, 2020

The video is at least a little more realistic than the still images in terms of how low-resolution everything is and the the type of screen-door effect you'd experience when looking through these glasses. The low frame rate would also be nausea-inducing if not for the low FoV keeping you firmly rooted in reality. Mixed reality is still a long way off from replacing your smartphone screen for casual use.

Shalashaska98 said:
It's too early for VR, as long as PS and Microsoft didn't adopt it, there won't be any good games or content just like the Quest.

What? Sony did adopt VR with PSVR. They'll probably make a whole new iteration of it for PS5, too. Won't surprise me if XBSX ends up supporting a variety of headsets as well.

That said, this isn't VR, it's Mixed Reality (MR), and it's driven by phone hardware which isn't anywhere near sufficient for gaming purposes.

Bladexdsl · Aug 11, 2020

Shalashaska98 said:
It's too early for VR

this isn't VR this is like the feature the 3ds had but on steroids. this is BETTER than VR

DinohScene · Aug 11, 2020

No fat block on your head?
I'm interested.

Xzi · Aug 11, 2020

Bladexdsl said:
this is BETTER than VR

Had to take away my like with that edit. Maybe it'll be better than VR in twenty years, but right now it's not even up to the task of browsing social media or watching Youtube videos without some extremely noticeable visual issues. Every "problem" VR has can only be exacerbated by a lower resolution display and lower-spec hardware driving it.

HideoKojima · Aug 11, 2020

Bladexdsl said:
this isn't VR this is like the feature the 3ds had but on steroids. this is BETTER than VR

I know it isn't VR I mean by VR every technology including AR.

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DinohScene said:
No fat block on your head?
I'm interested.

Seems the new Facebook Oculus one will be glasses only.

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Xzi said:
The video is at least a little more realistic than the still images in terms of how low-resolution everything is and the the type of screen-door effect you'd experience when looking through these glasses. The low frame rate would also be nausea-inducing if not for the low FoV keeping you firmly rooted in reality. Mixed reality is still a long way off from replacing your smartphone screen for casual use.

What? Sony did adopt VR with PSVR. They'll probably make a whole new iteration of it for PS5, too. Won't surprise me if XBSX ends up supporting a variety of headsets as well.

That said, this isn't VR, it's Mixed Reality (MR), and it's driven by phone hardware which isn't anywhere near sufficient for gaming purposes.

I know the difference between AR and VR and I meant all the related technology. Indeed there's PSVR but it had only few games. What I meant is a next gen console that fully adopts VR, we are ages away from that hence the year 2020 isn't the right one to get any of this as it won't be that good and it's lacking content. Buying this now is like buying TMobile G1 compared to the latest iPhone we have nowdays.

Trust me I come from the future.

PatrickD85 · Aug 11, 2020

Im getting flashbacks of Minority Report

While cool and all I see mixed reality being of more use in the 'app space' then the 'gaming space'.
Because how good can you always apply mixed reality in all home situations. (Sure the same can be said about VR but the main things is VR does not MIX with real life stuff ... hence it is easier / better from an immersion perspective)

Xzi · Aug 11, 2020

Shalashaska98 said:
Indeed there's PSVR but it had only few games.

About 550 games have been released for PSVR...Sony just announced some new ones in development during the latest state of play stream. Not to suggest anything about the average quality of those games or that PSVR is by any means the highest quality experience you can buy, it's very much "entry level" in that regard.

Shalashaska98 said:
What I meant is a next gen console that fully adopts VR

If by that you mean a "VR-only" console, such a thing would be pointless since any console capable of meeting the recommended requirements for VR can produce even more impressive performance on a flatscreen. VR rendering is roughly three times as hardware intensive as standard rendering.

Shalashaska98 said:
Buying this now is like buying TMobile G1 compared to the latest iPhone we have nowdays.

Trust me I come from the future.

It's a given that all technology improves over time, but if you decide to wait for perfection, you'll still be waiting on your deathbed.

Granted, there are only two or three AAA VR titles available at the moment, but I think that number will increase exponentially by end of life for next-gen consoles. Even if for some reason it doesn't, there are 20+ very solid indie VR developers worth supporting.

Where hardware is concerned, I'm more than happy with the Pimax 5K+ I backed on Kickstarter. Dual 1440p displays means a sharp image with no SDE, and 150+ degrees FoV means total immersion (at least to the edges of my glasses). Also, even a GTX 1080ti can't hit the maximum frame rate that the headset is capable of displaying, so it is somewhat future-proof in that sense.

In summary: as somebody who owned a Virtual Boy back in the day, I can assure you it's definitely not "too early" for VR in 2020. The technology (hardware) is there, it's just a matter of developers and development techniques (software) catching up to the new medium.

KingVamp · Aug 11, 2020

Well, I think it would help if they start selling PSVR2 bundles as fast as possible, whenever they announce the thing. As well as good VR to continue to get cheaper in general.

Maybe AR isn't ready to replace your phone, but I do think this is good enough to do some casual media consumption.

DKB · Aug 11, 2020

Mixed Reality is some corny shit. I'm waiting for holograms and superior VR.

KingBlank · Aug 12, 2020

Really confusing name, because of Windows Mixed Reality headsets which are mostly VR Headsets as far as I know?

Also, stop saying VR is better than AR etc. It does not make sense, they are not competing.

As far as VR goes, I like it but it makes me tired, and the headsets I've tried (og vive and rift s) have terrible resolution.

naxil · Nov 28, 2020

This is the future! Do you realize the game immersion that augmented reality has? And not just in the game. Think how many applications can be developed! I know why this technology It has been slowed down ... TVs and screens ... Who buys 50-inch TVs when you just put on a pair of glasses and watch TV in the bathroom?

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