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Donald Trump Says Vaccine Comming Next Week

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Trumps best buddy just banned fishing and sea salt mining, so the water doesnt get Covid;
https://apnews.com/article/joe-bide...rus-pandemic-c48ec4c1f50387918fbe293b3bbacacb

MIght be a covert political action I dont understand as well.

Wonder why people dont find even one positive to say about Trump. Wonder why people are now literally making this their 'hill to die on'. If you cant say anything positive about Trump, it proves that you were just out to get him and I was right?

No proves, that he was an absolute moron, who did nothing lasting or worthwhile for anyone in the general public.

People are celebrating him for what he didnt do. Go to war.

Then they kicked him out, because he didnt do anything. On Covid.
Most of the time he was actually firing the people in his administration, and being paranoid, that everyone was against him. Well - then he was impeached, so maybe not that paranoid.

Maybe thats just the 'normal' if you are a moron and in a position of power, that you got to, only because of your power drive and no scruples. Maybe there is something in you that realizes - 'shit' now every person around me is smarter than I am, I better make them swear oaths (=magic formulas), and fire them for speaking up, and abuse the legal system to cover my shortcomings. (Just to get to keep face.)
 
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the two vaccines most likely to be released (pfizer and moderna) are still awaiting approval. once they are approved, it will take months to make enough for everyone to get the doses they need. The shots come in two doses, and take up to 6 weeks to be fully effective, Dr.s/nurses will receive the vaccines first, then at risk patients, then regular people. it is going to take a long time to roll out. the pfizer vaccine needs to be refrigerated at ~-90F so logistics are going to be a bit fucked, with rural area's not seeing the pfizer vaccine for some time, although the moderna vaccine can be stored in standard refrigeration units.
 
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I like him, but I'm not taking it.

I'm willing to take the time of being restricted to stores and such as long as I don't have to take it ["vaccine"]. I just don't trust a so-called vaccine vaccine developed in a matter of months and that I love my life.

I'll use the Declaration of Bioethics and Human Rights in favor to refuse to take that vaccine.

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Why does this thread have to turn into another battle of he said she said. Can't we all just be happy we now have vaccines for this horrible virus and a return to a somewhat return to normal life is in sight
How does returning to "normal" mean that you have to take a vaccine?

That's more like they demand you take a drug and allow you to return to normal (whatever normal that is).

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All I know is this vaccine came out pretty quick, whereas a vaccine for other serious things have been worked on for 30+years and still nothing on the market... Sounds like something out of a post apocalyptic graphic novel. Like something headed by Umbrella Corp. I like the idea of a vaccine and this all gets better, but I am way too paranoid to be first to get it. I will wait for a bit and see if it gives people cancer or something before I am willing to get it.
Precisely! Vaccines normally, actually normally take years to be developed. However, the COVID Vaccine was developed in months.

I'm refusing it.
 
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How does returning to "normal" mean that you have to take a vaccine?
How does anything else get us back to any semblance of normal? We knew from the start a vaccine would be required to keep this virus from raging out of control for years or even decades to come. The more people out there that both refuse to wear a mask and refuse to get the vaccine, the longer this process is gonna take, and the longer restrictions will have to stay in place.
 
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How does anything else get us back to any semblance of normal? We knew from the start a vaccine would be required to keep this virus from raging out of control for years or even decades to come. The more people out there that both refuse to wear a mask and refuse to get the vaccine, the longer this process is gonna take, and the longer restrictions will have to stay in place.
If you're willing, that's your decision. I'm just not willing to risk my life. I love it too much to give it away.
 

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If you're willing, that's your decision. I'm just not willing to risk my life. I love it too much to give it away.
I'm guessing your parents had you vaccinated as a child, and miraculously you're still here. The vaccines which are going to be distributed soon have already been put through three different phases of clinical trials, including human testing. So don't worry, you're not a guinea pig. If you want to wait and watch for a little while to assuage your paranoia, see what side effects might pop up, that's just fine. Eventually though, you're gonna get a little envious of all your friends who are able to travel on airplanes and attend concerts.
 
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burden of proof my dude. it's on you since you made the claim. if you can't do that then you clearly don't have a strong enough argument to warrant the weight you put on it.

No, this entire burden of proof is how the Liberals like to operate, but it's not required. Linking to some web site doesn't automatically make what you've claimed valid or not. It's like I'd have to link to a website if I claimed oil is sticky. Not everything can be found on the Internet and there's some of us who grew up without it. I wonder how we survived without it. What Trump has done to bring us the vaccine has been covered extensively in the news ever single day for the last 11 months. I can't help it if people are too stupid to work a search engine or load up a news site.

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Is that the vaccine made from baby fetuses and with not checked side effects?

Initial development was done using fetal tissue. The end result doesn't use it. For the side effects. most people who tested the vaccines claim flu like symptoms for up to a week after taking it.

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Why does this thread have to turn into another battle of he said she said. Can't we all just be happy we now have vaccines for this horrible virus and a return to a somewhat return to normal life is in sight

The subject matter is about Trump so there's a group that auto attacks anything he says or does. It doesn't matter if they claimed the vaccine was needed yesterday as they now bitch at Trump for saying it's coming in a couple of weeks.
 

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How does returning to "normal" mean that you have to take a vaccine?

That's more like they demand you take a drug and allow you to return to normal (whatever normal that is).
The area I live in here in Scotland has been in full lockdown since pretty much March due to the fact we have the highest rate of covid in the whole country. Give or take a few weeks in July where restrictions were lifted and the death rates hugely increased. We are not allowed anyone in our house who doesn't stay there. All businesses shut (including my own) all restaurants shut all shops shut other than grocery stores are shut and so much more. We have been told by our government once a vaccine is available for all restrictions will be lifted.

So as I live alone I have had pretty much little human contact I have not been able to see my mum who has dementia. My business is making fuck all money being shut. So yes taking the vaccine means a return to normal for me and everyone else in my area.
 

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suuuuuurrrreee...
For once Trump isn't lying, but the news had already been reporting on vaccines from two to three different companies nearing the final stages of clinical trials for a few weeks now. He just wanted to jump in to soak up some of the glory (after killing 260k Americans, probably about 320k by the time he's out of office).
 

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No, this entire burden of proof is how the Liberals like to operate, but it's not required. Linking to some web site doesn't automatically make what you've claimed valid or not. It's like I'd have to link to a website if I claimed oil is sticky. Not everything can be found on the Internet and there's some of us who grew up without it. I wonder how we survived without it. What Trump has done to bring us the vaccine has been covered extensively in the news ever single day for the last 11 months. I can't help it if people are too stupid to work a search engine or load up a news site.

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Initial development was done using fetal tissue. The end result doesn't use it. For the side effects. most people who tested the vaccines claim flu like symptoms for up to a week after taking it.

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The subject matter is about Trump so there's a group that auto attacks anything he says or does. It doesn't matter if they claimed the vaccine was needed yesterday as they now bitch at Trump for saying it's coming in a couple of weeks.
why bother lying so much?
 
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why bother lying so much?

I'm not lying. I'm simply not playing stupid games by your sides stupid rules.

If you can't find out information related to the Trump's administrations response to covid, including the vaccine development then you're not even worth debating with. It's not my job to server you up links. I'm not your mother.
 
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I'd be literally rofl the day the US announced a nationwide enforceable mandate on masks where a person would receive a hefty fine for being caught in public without one. Why would I laugh? Because the head of every single deplorable on the face of the earth would explode, no one would have to deal with them anymore, the COVID pandemic would be over before we knew it, no more masks, and no vaccine necessary.
 

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He just wanted to jump in to soak up some of the glory (after killing 260k Americans, probably about 320k by the time he's out of office).
Oh, yeah, because Trump told the democrat governors such as Michigan's Whit-less, and "nursery home killer" Cuomo to keep all the covid patients locked up with the most susceptible people to the virus. Oh, who just won an Emmy for saving the Social Security Admin so much money this year? HINT: It wasn't Trump.

If this vaccine saves lives, that's great. I won't be taking it as I fall into the crowd that has a 99.8% survival rate.
 
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