Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

VinsCool · Nov 18, 2020

CompassNorth said:
Your post literally contributed nothing but try to stir up drama by acting like a centrist.

Lacius has been posting proof as other as stated, people been posting outright false statements that these users kept parroting as fact with constant refusal to back up their claim. To fault Lacius for wanting to engaging in conversations with facts and wanting others to do the same and to say "well I just woke up and that what I saw" is a crappy excuse

It's also alarming that your response "censorship is bad" and freedom of speech for a user who kept ridiculing trans youth.

And I will agree with you, that was indeed a waste of time to reply here.

That's all on me for willingly read 100 pages, and posted my 2 cents when not asked for it.

Doran754 · Nov 18, 2020

CompassNorth said:
Your post literally contributed nothing but try to stir up drama by acting like a centrist.

Lacius has been posting proof as other as stated, people been posting outright false statements that these users kept parroting as fact with constant refusal to back up their claim. To fault Lacius for wanting to engaging in conversations with facts and wanting others to do the same and to say "well I just woke up and that what I saw" is a crappy excuse

It's also alarming that your response "censorship is bad" and freedom of speech for a user who kept ridiculing trans youth.

"how dare you not agree with my side unequivocally, i demand my opponents be silenced so I don't have to listen to opposing world views, la la la"

UltraSUPRA · Nov 18, 2020

>post gets removed for facts

Yep, sounds like it's time for me to leave the political subforum before I get banned for an opinion.

ut2k4master · Nov 18, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
it's time for me to leave the political subforum

good idea

KingVamp · Nov 18, 2020

Basically I can say the nastiest thing ever to a person or group. As long as I say "free speech", I'm golden.

UltraSUPRA · Nov 18, 2020

KingVamp said:
Basically I can say the nastiest thing ever to a person or group. As long as I say "free speech", I'm golden.

All speech is free speech.

ut2k4master · Nov 18, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
All speech is free speech.

no
https://www.uscourts.gov/about-fede...ational-outreach/activity-resources/what-does

UltraSUPRA · Nov 18, 2020

ut2k4master said:
no
https://www.uscourts.gov/about-fede...ational-outreach/activity-resources/what-does

Our rights are being infringed.

ut2k4master · Nov 18, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
Our rights are being infringed.

no, you just dont know what "free speech" for your country actually means

gregory-samba · Nov 19, 2020

chrislink said:
true but 29 states + DC (Majority of of them biden won) REQUIRE the Electoral to vote who won in that state or face severe reprocussions fine and even jail

I’m aware of this, but the Liberals on this site and all around the country aren’t even aware of how the electoral college works. They haven’t voted yet so Biden is not yet the President Elect. It’s like getting to the 8th level of a video game and claiming you beat it, when you haven’t even gotten to the last 2 levels yet. Biden didn’t win just yet.

Luminvader said:
Nah, don't leave. We need fact checkers here and you're one of the best. Also remember that you have more friends here than enemies. Annnnd most importantly, let's not lose sight of the big picture here:

Biden didn’t win yet. Get a clue, learn how the election works.

AmandaRose said:
Oh a genuine question about what life is like as a trans woman. Well first of all yes we do mostly have to take hrt for all our life but the same applies for cis woman who have PCOS or cis women who have early menopause ect. So if the fact is that we can't be in the American army because of our need for HRT shouldn't that also mean all women shouldn't be in the army because at some point in their life they will need to take hrt.

So why is it important for trans women and women with PCOS or menopause to take hrt well let me explain.

Sex hormones do more than just help with the development of secondary sex characteristics. One of the big things we talk about in transgender hormone therapy, as we age, is osteoporosis or brittle bones.

Osteoporosis is more common in cisgender women than cisgender men and the decrease of estrogen during menopause plays a significant role in that. In cisgender men, low levels of testosterone contribute significantly to the onset of osteoporosis.

So, what about trans people?

The group with the greatest need of HRT as a life long treatment are trans individuals who have had gonads (ovaries or testes) removed as part of their transition. The gonads are the body’s most significant producers of sex hormones and without them the body will have considerable difficulty maintaining bone health. The solution for this is hormone therapy.

Trans people who have not had their gonads removed face a different problem. Stopping HRT would result in their bodies returning to a state where the sex hormones of the gender they were assigned at birth are once again dominant. Trans men would start to see feminization and trans women would experience masculinization, both of which would be considerably distressing in the sense of managing dysphoria.

As trans people age, hormone doses are adjusted and so are hormone delivery methods (at least, for trans women.) Oral, transdermal and injectable estrogens all have different risks and trans people may be moved from one delivery method to another as a means of mitigating health risks that occur with some specific delivery methods (such as DVT, blood clots and stroke risks.)

Mentally ill people that are dependent on drugs should not be allowed into our armed forces. They will become an unneeded expense and distraction.

CompassNorth said:
Your post literally contributed nothing but try to stir up drama by acting like a centrist.

Lacius has been posting proof as other as stated, people been posting outright false statements that these users kept parroting as fact with constant refusal to back up their claim. To fault Lacius for wanting to engaging in conversations with facts and wanting others to do the same and to say "well I just woke up and that what I saw" is a crappy excuse

It's also alarming that your response "censorship is bad" and freedom of speech for a user who kept ridiculing trans youth.

Lacuis only posts things that give the appearance of supporting his position. He’s a delusional Godless sicko.

For your XYZ123 people, anyone that supports identity politics is mentally ill.

shamzie said:
"how dare you not agree with my side unequivocally, i demand my opponents be silenced so I don't have to listen to opposing world views, la la la"

This is what the Liberals proceed to do after calling themselves tolerant.

ut2k4master said:
no

Yes.

ut2k4master said:
https://www.uscourts.gov/about-fede...ational-outreach/activity-resources/what-does

Educational overreach by demented Liberals doesn't define what free speech is. Free speech is being able to say what you want without being persecuted. The Left will have you believe it's something else so they can use it as a way to control you. I bet if I do something, like spell a certain word on this forum, like n***** I'll get banned. That's not freedom of speech. Yes, private entities can control what you type, but if they are controlling what you type on their site or what you can say in their business then they are not supporters of free speech in general. Basically, Liberals suck and are brainwashing people into thinking they can only say certain things and they aren't allowed to say other things.

gregory-samba · Nov 19, 2020

UltraSupra said:
(prageru pix)

Safety is an illusion. You could die at any point in time during your life. You could drop dead in the next 10 seconds. There's also probable leading causes of death, like speeding down a highway at 60 MPH and hitting a wrong way driver ... Yet, we still all get in cars and drive. Sure, death is scary for some people, but the Liberals know that and use that fear to control others with. Freedom isn't living in a society where people get to tell you what you can only say and do.

LumInvader · Nov 19, 2020

gregory-samba said:
Biden didn’t win yet. Get a clue, learn how the election works.

99% of the ballots have already been counted in Pennsylvania, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin. There is no path forward for Trump to overtake Biden's lead without providing evidence of widespread election fraud, which you already admitted there is none.

Biden's electoral victory becoming "official" is a mere formality at this point. Your argument amounts to nothing more than a formal waiting exercise, which is far too weak to support the haughty manner in which you responded.

Major media outlets have already called Biden the winner more than a week ago, including Fox News. Heads of state from around the world have already congratulated Biden and Harris. Trump's base did the same thing back in 2016.

All that's left is gregory-samba's acknowledgement laced with "woe is me" after December 14th.

Kurt91 · Nov 19, 2020

AmandaRose said:
Oh a genuine question about what life is like as a trans woman. Well first of all yes we do mostly have to take hrt for all our life but the same applies for cis woman who have PCOS or cis women who have early menopause ect. So if the fact is that we can't be in the American army because of our need for HRT shouldn't that also mean all women shouldn't be in the army because at some point in their life they will need to take hrt.

So why is it important for trans women and women with PCOS or menopause to take hrt well let me explain.

Sex hormones do more than just help with the development of secondary sex characteristics. One of the big things we talk about in transgender hormone therapy, as we age, is osteoporosis or brittle bones.

Osteoporosis is more common in cisgender women than cisgender men and the decrease of estrogen during menopause plays a significant role in that. In cisgender men, low levels of testosterone contribute significantly to the onset of osteoporosis.

So, what about trans people?

The group with the greatest need of HRT as a life long treatment are trans individuals who have had gonads (ovaries or testes) removed as part of their transition. The gonads are the body’s most significant producers of sex hormones and without them the body will have considerable difficulty maintaining bone health. The solution for this is hormone therapy.

Trans people who have not had their gonads removed face a different problem. Stopping HRT would result in their bodies returning to a state where the sex hormones of the gender they were assigned at birth are once again dominant. Trans men would start to see feminization and trans women would experience masculinization, both of which would be considerably distressing in the sense of managing dysphoria.

As trans people age, hormone doses are adjusted and so are hormone delivery methods (at least, for trans women.) Oral, transdermal and injectable estrogens all have different risks and trans people may be moved from one delivery method to another as a means of mitigating health risks that occur with some specific delivery methods (such as DVT, blood clots and stroke risks.)

Okay, so if those are the side-effects of HRT not being available for a trans-person, then what about cis-women with PCOS or early menopause? What are the side-effects for the medication not being available in that situation? For trans-people, the side-effects appear to be visually obvious and certainly incredibly mentally distressful, which could result in poor decision-making when added to the additional stress being in a worst-case scenario reliant on life-or-death spur-of-the-moment decisions. (Again, playing Devil's Advocate here. Obviously, if I need to ask these sorts of questions, I don't have a horse in this race myself. I do have a younger sister who might, she's on-and-off about wanting to be referred to as male, has a girlfriend, and basically hasn't fully decided what her exact situation is, though she refers to herself as bisexual.)

Anyways, what I'm getting at is, for a trans-person, not having the appropriate medication available would be disastrous to their mental well-being, which would be worse when compounded with worst-case scenario military stresses. In a similar situation for a cis-woman who doesn't have said medication available, what would the side-effects be and would they be as bad as far as mental well-being? (I'd look it up on Google, which I did to figure out what PCOS stands for, but I get queasy and sick very easily as far as blood or other medical-type things go, and I'd rather not stumble on medical images and stuff and make myself throw up.)

g00s3y · Nov 19, 2020

"Biden will raise taxes on people making $400,000+ a year"

Trump supporters who don't even make $40,000 a year complaining about it.

Shows just how dumb the average Trump supporter is, can't even read correctly, much less spell or do some form of math.

Gregory over here losing his mind because he doesn't understand how things work, LMAO.

notimp · Nov 19, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:

This should seriously get you banned.

What the f*ck are you doing?

1. Isolation as a concept on the left and on the right is entirely different
2. There is no captor
3. No intense sense of concern with self develops, because you have all kinds of 'escapist' means (Netflix, telephone, web, family, Zoom ...) - including spreading f*cking FUD on an internet forum to hurt other people.

ISOLATION PERIOD (if you are infected, last for about a week (depends on your local, in some its still two weeks) - after that you have walks, parks, work, grocery stores, friends, extended family, ..). And is not likely to be repeated for a year.

4. Escapism is pushed as 'great'.

5. Other stimulis arent eliminated (this means, dark room, no light, no window, not being able to hold a conversation with someone.

6. Induced Exhaustion is noise torture and induced sleep deprevation, you f*ck.

7. No tension, no fear - unless you are dying in a hospital.

8. The only one cultivating Fear and Despair is you and your brotherhood.

9. No consequences for non compliance, apart from social shunning. Or consequences that are so low, they will be dismissed, before you go in front of a court. (Show, not action.))

10. No hinderance to adjustment.

11. No demonstration of futility of resistance. (You should have seen people in my parts meeting up at wineries shortly before the second lockdown). Also you f*cks have rallies all over the country. Whats that?

12. No display of public power/pressure. (Everything is soft power, everything is nudging.)

13. No creation of fear of freedom, no creation of dependance from capturers.

14. Demands are logical and not contradictory.

15 No reinforcement of who is on control.

YOU FLYING F*CK, GET OUT AND SH*T INTO SOMEONE ELSES COMMUNITY YOU OUTRAGEOUS PIECE OF HATE, TRYING TO BURN EVERYTHING DOWN.

Also - and just as a kicker, those are not 'communist coercive methods' you f*ck, those have been developed as psychological 'interrogation' techniques, all over the world independently. Israel probably being the leading instance in applying modern psychiatric deduction and lingo to those. Making it easily parsable for people who want to learn.

Not only are you lying.
Not only are you misrepresenting.
Not only are you inducing fear in people.
Not only are you resorting to actively not understanding points and messing up fake 'comparisons' in 15 plus points
Not only is the historical context you are giving wrong.
Not only are you actively exploiting semantics (isolation, vs. ISOLATION).
The entire aim of this posting is to TERRORIZE people.

You flying piece of....

Doran754 · Nov 19, 2020

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ban those who post things I dont like :cry:

" every lefty on this site. boring as fuck.

notimp · Nov 19, 2020

shamzie said:
"ban those who post things I dont like " every lefty on this site. boring as fuck.

Ban him (not you the other guy), this is an utterly sickening display of spreading FUD.

If you are dumb enough to believe the resemblences here - you are even playing with the image of people being tortured, and comparing youreself to being under state suppression and torture.

Misrepresenting their situation, misrepresenting the situatuon - to spread fear for no reason. Because you are only out to want attention you little piece of...

This should get you banned - seriously.

This is the equivalent of setting the entire forum on fire. And of course - you bring it easily digestable as a meme.

This is not just PROPAGANDA, this is psychological torture in its self.

Banned.

15+ of those comparisons dont hold up in any way - the creator of that meme knew it (from time to time he just threw in non sequitors as comparatives - that arent even trying to mírror the meaning of the torture 'how to' on the left). You f*cks.

And if you want to at least leave the appearance of historical accuracy, you'd call it 'stalinist', and not 'communist'. But thats not the point, is it? Better use communist, because its the trigger word you need to use to get dumb peoples attention. W00t? The communist world conspiracy? Is it that time already? Pieces of PROPAGANDA throwing sh*ts.

First ridiculing Biden for a personal report about his experiences in hospital with a brain aneurisma (cutting away the context), now misrepresenting yourselves as the victims of state torture... Belittling actual victims of torture.

Please, go out and shout your hate out in the middle of the streets of your capital, walk in circles there - screming about state induced isolation and torture. Leave other people alone with this "education".

edit: Here more torture from the local supermarket chain in my area:

Doran754 · Nov 19, 2020

notimp said:
Ban him (not you the other guy), this is an utterly sickening display of spreading FUD.

If you are dumb enough to believe the resemblences here - you are even playing with the notion of people being tortured, ab comparing youreself to people under torture.

Misrepresenting their situation, misrepresenting the situatuon - to spread fear for no reason. Because you are only out to want attention you little piece of...

This should get you banned - seriously.

Or you could just ignore him, why must everyone be banned and shut down, he has no impact on your life. Put him on mute, dont need to constantly deplatform people. The left would get so much further if their defacto stance wasn't to ban literally anyone they disagree with.

SonowRaevius · Nov 19, 2020

shamzie said:
Or you could just ignore him, why must everyone be banned and shut down, he has no impact on your life. Put him on mute, dont need to constantly deplatform people. The left would get so much further if their defacto stance wasn't to ban literally anyone they disagree with.

Imagine thinking that not wanting people to spread misinformation and conspiracy theories is a "lefty" idea and that the spread of misinformation can't cause harm to someone else.

Or maybe we should talk to the family of victims from school shootings who were harassed and attacked after being called "Crisis actors" by people on the right and ask them how they feel about giving platforms to those that love to spread misinformation and conspiracy theories.

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UltraSUPRA said:
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First, Prager-U, just the amount of idiocy that site spews is absolutely hilarious.

Second, Maybe you would like to look at New Zealand for a moment, you know, a country that actually listened to scientists and medical professional on how to deal with this virus. I mean surely they are still under lockdown.....

Oh wait,, they aren't. In fact they recently had a stadium full of people recently with no masks or anything after they brought their cases to zero.

Scarlet · Nov 19, 2020

NuadaXXX said:
Trump has not passed any laws that restrict you, Biden will do it day 1

In my logical understanding, only someone is a dictator who restricts the people.

I'm curious, what do you think laws are? By definition they restrict you.

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