Got NextGen?

gamemasteru03 · Nov 16, 2020

SG854 said:
Game pass is big for Microsoft. Quick resume is a very nice bonus feature.

The problem with PS5 games is that many of them are available on PS4. Which makes people hesitant to rush out and get one. Miles Morales is on PS4. And Demon Souls is a remake. So PS5 is no different in terms of Series X with its game selection. Maybe justa tad bit better not enough for people to rush out for one.

I dont like the Xbox UI is basically the same. Sony at least changed it to give us something different and improved it to make it feel next gen.

I think that the lineup is much better on PS5. Yes most games are cross gen for first party but at least there are first party games at launch. Xbox has no new first party games at launch, all they did was just upgrade fps and resolution on a few old games which most gamer's, including me, have already played to death. The only exception I can think of is gear tatics but that game launched on PC months ago. Everything else you said; I agree on.

SG854 · Nov 16, 2020

gamemasteru03 said:
I think that the lineup is much better on PS5. Yes most games are cross gen for first party but at least there are first party games at launch. Xbox has no new first party games at launch, all they did was just upgrade fps and resolution on a few old games which most gamer's, including me, have already played to death. The only exception I can think of is gear tatics but that game launched on PC months ago. Everything else you said; I agree on.

Right now early line up is better on Sony. But I know many people holding off on a PS5 because most they could play on PS4.

Give X-Box time and they will have exclusives eventually. The problem with Sony exclusives is that Sony bought and paid alot of those studios to release only on their console. So that made the PS4 more compeling then X-Box One. Something that Epic games on PC does but gets more hate then Sony, and Sony instead gets praise for doing this same behavior. I find it hypocritical. X-Box is counteracting doing the same thing buying up game studios. So eventually exclusives will come to X-Box.

Hells Malice · Nov 16, 2020

Bro it's current gen now

SG854 · Nov 16, 2020

Retroboy said:
Hardware doesnt give a better gaming experience, a game is fun or its shit.

Playing on a high end system doesnt make a shit game better.

But thing is, pcs have had the hardware to offer next gen quality, but you dont, you get current gen ports.

Nothing wrong with ports on PC. Making games accessible to more people is great. Plus sometimes they release at the same time the console counterparts release so its not like its a bad thing.

Ya, we don't get really next gen graphics on PC because studios always develop for the lowest common denominator which is consoles. They want the game to be compatible on different hardwares including consoles so they don't take full advantage of the raw power of pc. If too graphically intense then it'll have a hard time running on console. And consoles are the biggest market bigger then pc. At best you are getting very minor graphical upgrades over console, sharper image and smother performance. Which I think is still good enough reason to get a pc.

120 fps does make a game play better then 30 fps. It feels sluggish. But the higher framerate makes the game faster and funner imo. Graphically they can be the same but higher framerate alone from better hardware does make a difference in funness.

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Hells Malice said:
Bro it's current gen now

It's currently current gen.

luigirockz · Nov 16, 2020

I wanted a PS5 but when Miles was announced for PS4, decided to wait. Would have liked Series S but no disc drive. Not really any next-gen exclusives , just exclusive performance at the moment.

SG854 · Nov 16, 2020

luigirockz said:
I wanted a PS5 but when Miles was announced for PS4, decided to wait. Would have liked Series S but no disc drive. Not really any next-gen exclusives , just exclusive performance at the moment.

Barely exclusive performance. The graphical difference between the two is minor, not very noticable. It's best to get what you like better in other areas then whats graphically better.

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Its disappointing to see the Series X having ray trace performance comparable to the lowest end Nvdia GPU that supports raytracing through rtx accelerated hardware, the 2060 super.

But the makes sense because even the PC counterpart of AMD RDNA2 which is the GPU architecture that Sony and Microsoft are using performs less then the Nvdia counterpart in the same price class based on rumors.

It makes it less enticing for developers to use raytracing on consoles and will have to make many compromises to get it to work with good performance when they do choose to use it.

Rj.MoG · Nov 16, 2020

I got both and I’m gonna play them on my 1080p panny plasma and there’s nothing you can do to stop me

SonowRaevius · Nov 16, 2020

After hearing about how the new consoles are overheating, bricking, and having a myriad of other problems and issues makes me glad I decided to wait a good bit to get either one.

Also, reaffirms my belief that console makers really should spread console gens out further so they can actually solve these issues and have a healthy lineup of games when they finally do release.

FAST6191 · Nov 16, 2020

Reading through this thread I don't know if I have ever had less interest in a new console generation, and this appears to be extending into my awareness/working knowledge of it all -- while I still think the PS4bone was premature by a year or so there was still devs having to carve things up and play master coder to get things to fit vs where the PC was at so I can see it. Today... nothing for me to ponder really.

Re Epic vs console exclusives.
Is it really a comparable situation?
On PC. You download a new client that takes up next to nothing. Whip out the credit/debit/gift card and go from there. Same device, same OS, same input methods...
On console. Whole new console + space for it, new controller (or maybe hacks to workaround), whatever extra monthly costs that are involved...

Personally I find it a pity that exclusives of any stripe exist at all (much prefer the DVD model wherein I just need a player, any disc will work in it).

SG854 · Nov 16, 2020

FAST6191 said:
Reading through this thread I don't know if I have ever had less interest in a new console generation, and this appears to be extending into my awareness/working knowledge of it all -- while I still think the PS4bone was premature by a year or so there was still devs having to carve things up and play master coder to get things to fit vs where the PC was at so I can see it. Today... nothing for me to ponder really.

Re Epic vs console exclusives.
Is it really a comparable situation?
On PC. You download a new client that takes up next to nothing. Whip out the credit/debit/gift card and go from there. Same device, same OS, same input methods...
On console. Whole new console + space for it, new controller (or maybe hacks to workaround), whatever extra monthly costs that are involved...

Personally I find it a pity that exclusives of any stripe exist at all (much prefer the DVD model wherein I just need a player, any disc will work in it).

I was talking about where the money goes too. People just don't want to support Epic and don't like they are paying companies for exclusives and people don't want to support a company they don't like with their buisness practices.

But ya on PC its easy as downloading a client and thats it instead of buying an entirely new console. Which makes it even stranger that people get more mad on PC instead of consoles doing the same thing.

Tweaker_Modding · Nov 16, 2020

i want a PS5 but not only are they not released over here in the UK yet but i can’t get my hands on one

and fuck getting one on eBay because they’re 100% scalped and are most likely scams as well

StrayGuitarist · Nov 16, 2020

I couldn't afford to preorder while they were available, and after that they got scalped into oblivion. It probably won't be for months until I get one, but I'm not that upset. There's really nothing about either console I need right now. If anything, I'll probably end up trying to get a Series X, but I doubt it'll be any time soon.

TomSwitch · Nov 16, 2020

sergey3000 said:
I maybe gonna buy the ps5 when they release the slim version of the ps5. Because the current console looks ugly (especially the disc version). and also when the console gonna drop to at least 500$ in my country.

I have pre ordered digital version. Form all indication it is going to be ugly. It isn't a display piece for any living room for sure. Probably wife approval rating expected to be low.

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tech3475 said:
Depends on particular circumstances, in my case I consider the two compliment each other.

Not everything I want to run, will run on PC (E.g. Rare replay) or would require repurchasing (note I have Gamepass Ultimate but not everything is available on both).

For games which do run on both via the same purchase/subscription, PC is better but if say I’m in bed I’ll run them on the Xbox.

If however you just want to run the latest multi platform games in the same location, then yes the Xbox does seem a bit of a waste.

For a well made game console version is best. PC let's you turned the game for full enjoyment if it wasn't properly made by the developer.

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mathew77 said:
Still waiting for the next-gen Nintendo Switch Pro.

Hope switch pro don't come so soon. Want to enjoy my switch for as long as possible.

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limpbiz411 said:
compared to my computer, these new consoles are toys. I don't think I'll be buy them at all

They are suppose to be toys. Most of us come to gbatemp to discuss about our toys, not you?

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hippy dave said:
IDK who'd make a "decent" monitor without a digital input in this day & age, but the fact is you lose quality by converting to analogue and back to digital for no reason. Have fun I guess.

Won't be long before HDR is what a decent gaming display need to support.

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total_n000000b said:
Bruh I am far from PC master race. Apple M1 is just Soo good we will have better gaming experiences I said that. But my phrasing was a bit bad so apologies. Pc are only good if you want to get locked around a chair and have heat waves blasted out just to enjoy something. Compared to PC ps5 and Carries are much better choices.

PC along with consoles x86 architecture is obsolete. Soon once all the developers adopt to superior ARM instruction set with Nvidia releasing an M1 competitor no one is going to support these slow systems that take power.

An upgraded M1 like performance switch that can be docked will destroy the ps5 will be the dream and apple is making it fulfill! With others following soon of course.

Windows and other things are dead. Hopefully at least this is Microsoft's last console.

Some people love Apple unconditionally. I only love them when they perform like a champion and don't mess up software update. Apple hasn't fulfill my desire to love them lately.

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SG854 said:
Right now early line up is better on Sony. But I know many people holding off on a PS5 because most they could play on PS4.

Give X-Box time and they will have exclusives eventually. The problem with Sony exclusives is that Sony bought and paid alot of those studios to release only on their console. So that made the PS4 more compeling then X-Box One. Something that Epic games on PC does but gets more hate then Sony, and Sony instead gets praise for doing this same behavior. I find it hypocritical. X-Box is counteracting doing the same thing buying up game studios. So eventually exclusives will come to X-Box.

I am a fan of Microsoft. They have been a great company for a long time. Even their hardware is rather good for a number of years already. Last gen wise I think Sony did a much better job though. I am going with Sony PS5.

TomSwitch · Nov 16, 2020

SG854 said:
Barely exclusive performance. The graphical difference between the two is minor, not very noticable. It's best to get what you like better in other areas then whats graphically better.

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Its disappointing to see the Series X having ray trace performance comparable to the lowest end Nvdia GPU that supports raytracing through rtx accelerated hardware, the 2060 super.

But the makes sense because even the PC counterpart of AMD RDNA2 which is the GPU architecture that Sony and Microsoft are using performs less then the Nvdia counterpart in the same price class based on rumors.

It makes it less enticing for developers to use raytracing on consoles and will have to make many compromises to get it to work with good performance when they do choose to use it.

A high end PC not able to beat console would be the ultimate disappointment for the owner of the ultra PC. Sadly sometimes it happens. Hopefully not too often but while PC has the muscle advantage console normally have the focus of the developer.

dVeLoPe · Nov 16, 2020

I was able to order 2x PS5 one will get used the other stays sealed for potential HOMEBREW in the future!

The Real Jdbye · Nov 16, 2020

No, but I did preorder a next gen VR headset, the HP Reverb G2. That's all I need right now

vincentx77 · Nov 16, 2020

I just got my PS5 Friday, and I'll have my Series X whenever Microsoft decides to ship it out (supposed to be in a couple of weeks). I didn't get that one pre-ordered. And yes, we're beta testers. I also bought my PS4 at launch and literally just retired it when the PS5 got here. Hopefully things work out the same again.

CorteX_ · Nov 16, 2020

Nope. Swore to myself to stick to PC in the future. Not buying a console just because my friends bought a game on a different platform. It's time for them to switch to PC, not the other way around.

depaul · Nov 16, 2020

Good luck finding a PC comparable to PS5/XSX specs with a price less than 1000$

CorteX_ · Nov 16, 2020

depaul said:
Good luck finding a PC comparable to PS5/XSX specs with a price less than 1000$

Good luck not spending 1000$ over the years on controllers and other bs accessoires you probably already own but can't use on your new console and an expensive paid online service, with much higher game prices than PC has.

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