[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

omgcat · Oct 31, 2020

woo, 100k+ new cases of COVID19 today, i didn't think we'd break that line anywhere near this fast. shit's gonna get real grim real fast. at this point, every time you clock ticks, a new person is infected. in other news, a florida polling place has been closed due to a COVID outbreak, this could have consequences for the election if polling places shutter during election day due to poll workers being sick.

notimp · Oct 31, 2020

monkeyman4412 said:
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definitely no conflict of interest here... not at all.

The Greenwald piece is thorough, read it.

And it also features a former director of communications. Now at facebook.

The point that strikes me as most irksome, is how easily the 'russia' narrative was picked up, without any indication at all. Also has some new (to me) information about Bidens insistence to replace the chief prosecutor in the ukraine, and with whom he was replaced.

There is something there (probably not enough for direct personal accusations, but at least to raise the question) - and I have to say the Biden campaign got a pass on this by almost all media outlets.

UltraSUPRA · Oct 31, 2020

omgcat said:
woo, 100k+ new cases of COVID19 today, i didn't think we'd break that line anywhere near this fast.

How many deaths, though?

chrisrlink · Oct 31, 2020

as much as i hate this cest pool of a thread i definitly (if biden wins) want to take jabs at you conservitives by posting trump in prison memes also when trump gets out they better arrest him cause he's too much of a security threat (especially if he flees to russia after losing pretty sure he wont give a f**k if he loses not caring for american lives after starting ww3

notimp · Oct 31, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
How many deaths, though?

US infection rate hasnt gone 'that exponential' - yet. But its on its way. Deaths should be lagging up to 4 weeks.

As always, you can look them up here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us

edit: Also, dont forget its not only about deaths but also about hospitalization rate/hospital capacity.

edit: US is still fine in regards to hospitalization rate, but the issue still is - how is growth.

If it remains near exponential for a while, that changes quickly.

Rates for COVID-19 hospitalization are also rising in the United States, which is now well into its third spike in cases. Compared to late September, 41 states and Puerto Rico have more hospitalized patients now, and 22 of the states have experienced increases of more than 50%, the Washington Post reported.

Both hospitalizations and deaths, which typically lag increases in cases, are among the markers showing that the surge in COVID-19 cases isn't just due to increased testing. The US average deaths per day are up 10% over the past 2 weeks, from 721 to 794, according to an Associated Press analysis of Johns Hopkins data. It also found that new cases are on the rise in 47 states, with deaths increasing in 34.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/10/surges-europe-us-push-exponential-covid-19-rise

omgcat · Oct 31, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
How many deaths, though?

1k/day, but remember, deaths lag by 3 weeks.

Doran754 · Oct 31, 2020

On an average day, nearly 8,000 people die from all causes in the United States. Non issue, unless you can use a joke of a pandemic that has a 99.6% survival rate to your gain politically of course.

notimp · Oct 31, 2020

shamzie said:
On an average day, nearly 8,000 people die from all causes in the United States. Non issue, unless you can use a joke of a pandemic that has a 99.6% survival rate to your gain politically of course.

Wait up to 4 weeks. Also, hospitalization rates will be a bigger issue, eventually. (From a states perspective.)

omgcat · Oct 31, 2020

shamzie said:
On an average day, nearly 8,000 people die from all causes in the United States. Non issue, unless you can use a joke of a pandemic that has a 99.6% survival rate to your gain politically of course.

sure 99.6% survival rate, but what about the longhaulers? you don't need to have a severe case to end up as a longhauler, and that shit is crippling. even if only .4% die, a much larger percent will have long term damage that slows down our economy for decades potentially. even then .4% of the whole US population is 1,400,000 deaths.

also if covid is 1k/day and the rest of ALL CAUSES is 8k/day covid is 1/(1+8) = 1/9 = 11.11% of all daily deaths. that's kind of high, and the daily deaths are on the rise.

LumInvader · Oct 31, 2020

shamzie said:
On an average day, nearly 8,000 people die from all causes in the United States. Non issue, unless you can use a joke of a pandemic that has a 99.6% survival rate to your gain politically of course.

wartutor · Oct 31, 2020

omgcat said:
sure 99.6% survival rate, but what about the longhaulers? you don't need to have a severe case to end up as a longhauler, and that shit is crippling. even if only .4% die, a much larger percent will have long term damage that slows down our economy for decades potentially. even then .4% of the whole US population is 1,400,000 deaths.

also if covid is 1k/day and the rest of ALL CAUSES is 8k/day covid is 1/(1+8) = 1/9 = 11.11% of all daily deaths. that's kind of high, and the daily deaths are on the rise.

Numbers make it look bad but its a virus its going to do what it does. You cant stay locked up in your house forever. And with the amount of stupid people that wouldnt take the vaccine today if there was one, its not going to get any better. Might as well bite the bullet and get to living before it kills you anyways

LumInvader said:

Yeah yeah standing on coffins how original. At least there from a virus that you cant control instead of some stupid pointless war like most other presidents. I love how dumb people are still blaming trump for something that is a NATURAL part of life

omgcat · Oct 31, 2020

wartutor said:
Numbers make it look bad but its a virus its going to do what it does.

sorry that facts and real life suck. proper stimulus given to the people instead of wallstreet would changed this outcome. the republicans bitch about giving 3Tn for the heroes act, when we gave over 4tn in quantitative easing to wallstreet.

r0achtheunsavory · Oct 31, 2020

The great part is that it doesn't even matter who wins. Everyone knows - even the left - that Biden is a criminal puppet, and Kamala is the #1 most disliked democrat that exists. The second these scum try to rig the supreme court to ban the 2nd amendment, everyone will laugh right in their face. There will be zero compliance for anything they say, and it will be the ultimate emperor with no clothes moment in the whole of human history.

So the left is not going to be able to do jack shit. The most likely outcome from their tyranny (as puppets for Soros and the global government crowd), would be them going after the 2nd amendment or rigging the courts, then both the governors and local sheriffs everywhere would ALL refuse to enforce their crimes, and you'd probably have a repeat of the civil war with not one, but numerous states seceding.

wartutor · Oct 31, 2020

r0achtheunsavory said:
The great part is that it doesn't even matter who wins. Everyone knows - even the left - that Biden is a criminal puppet, and Kamala is the #1 most disliked democrat that exists. The second these scum try to rig the supreme court to ban the 2nd amendment, everyone will laugh right in their face. There will be zero compliance for anything they say, and it will be the ultimate emperor with no clothes moment in the whole of human history.

So the left is not going to be able to do jack shit. The most likely outcome from their tyranny (as puppets for Soros and the global government crowd), would be them going after the 2nd amendment or rigging the courts, then both the governors and local sheriffs everywhere would ALL refuse to enforce their crimes, and you'd probably have a repeat of the civil war with not one, but numerous states seceding.

And no matter who wins antifa will burn your city down. If trump wins they will scream voter fraud and if biden wins it will be out of celibration

LumInvader · Oct 31, 2020

wartutor said:
Numbers make it look bad but its a virus its going to do what it does. You cant stay locked up in your house forever. And with the amount of stupid people that wouldnt take the vaccine today if there was one, its not going to get any better. Might as well bite the bullet and get to living before it kills you anyways

Yeah yeah standing on coffins how original. At least there from a virus that you cant control instead of some stupid pointless war like most other presidents. I love how dumb people are still blaming trump for something that is a NATURAL part of life

Uh, no. This is patently false:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/social-distancing.html

Attacking my intelligence doesn't change the fact that you're a card carrying member of the anti-science right, which says more about your intelligence -- or lack thereof -- than it does mine.

r0achtheunsavory · Oct 31, 2020

Lol, another leftist scammer spamming the word "science", like virtually everything in science isn't disputed. I hear there were these people called the Nazis who had TONS of really smart scientists. Since you insist on the world being run as a tyrannical technocracy, why aren't you calling these guys up? They're huge fans of your authoritarian ideas, and they have TONS of scientific advice to share with you.

wartutor · Oct 31, 2020

LumInvader said:
Uh, no. This is patently false:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/social-distancing.html

Attacking my intelligence doesn't change the fact that you're a card carrying member of the anti-science right, which says more about your intelligence -- or lack thereof -- than it does mine.

Despite masks and social distancing the virus is spreading to new heights. Numbers went up yesterday over 100k new cases. Masks and social distancing is doing a good fucking job of stopping it. As you say numbers dont lie.

r0achtheunsavory · Oct 31, 2020

Who would be stupid enough to do what the government says after they release an artificial, gain of function, weaponized cold virus to try and divert blame for economic collapse so the usury bankers don't hang in the streets while also attempting to use the fake debacle to try and shoehorn people into their new cashless slavery system?

They can take their martial law aka lockdown and masks and shove them up their ass. Nobody is going along with any of this shit and the world will go back to physical metals as money again instead of their Chinese social credit score monetary system.

wartutor · Oct 31, 2020

r0achtheunsavory said:
Who would be stupid enough to do what the government says after they release an artificial, gain of function, weaponized cold virus to try and divert blame for economic collapse so the usury bankers don't hang in the streets while also attempting to use the fake debacle to try and shoehorn people into their new cashless slavery system?

They can take their martial law aka lockdown and masks and shove them up their ass. Nobody is going along with any of this shit and the world will go back to physical metals as money again instead of their Chinese social credit score monetary system.

Damn roach we take 3 steps forward and you fall a mile backwards. You are so far right your damn near standing on the left side . I dont know what flavor kool aid your dipping into

UltraSUPRA · Oct 31, 2020

wartutor said:
You are so far right your damn near standing on the left side .

Imagine believing in horseshoe theory.

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