Nintendo Switch hackers Team Xecuter leaders arrested, charged in federal indictment

Joom · Oct 7, 2020

MK73DS said:
I never signed or accepted any license when buying my Switch in store. I just own what I buy. I understand for digital content (games or software) because it was created only for this purpose, but the hardware is mine and I can do whatever I want with it.

You agreed to it when you powered it on and hit "I Agree". This isn't a hard concept to grasp.

TurtlePowerrr said:
Um NO dude. If I buy any hardware then I completely own it outright it's not a license. You are wrong on so many levels. Software is a different beast but the physical hardware isn't licensed. Basically you are telling me if I go buy a car at the local dealership and pay cash for it, according to you it's just licensed? I think NOT. Get a clue dude

You probably shouldn't have used a car as an analogy because this is akin to leasing a car. You don't own it, you just paid for the privilege to drive it around. The company you leased it from still owns it. You don't own the hardware, either. Also, analogies don't prove anything. Legal agreements do, however, and what you're paying for is the privilege to use said hardware within the boundaries set by the company. Sorry that your entitlement makes you believe otherwise. In the case of the Switch; If you actually owned it, you wouldn't be banned for running third-party software and aftermarket firmware on it.

64bitmodels · Oct 7, 2020

Legend Of Kay said:
“True pirates don’t spend any money except for these things that cost money that I say are okay because I decided so.”
Classic.

how are the pirates supposed to pirate the games then??

altorn · Oct 7, 2020

how about blawar, any updates about him?

MikaDubbz · Oct 7, 2020

eyeliner said:
Famiclones. Famiclones everywhere! Cheaper than a flashcard most of the times, two gamepads and with a lightgun to boot.

I'd wager they will eventually get the chips code narrowed down (and probably the litigation will certainly help) and blacklist the chip, like it happened with NDS flashcards.

I'd still argue the DS had seen more piracy overall

gizmomelb · Oct 7, 2020

altorn said:
how about blawar, any updates about him?

if you care so deeply, message him and ask.

nachuz · Oct 7, 2020

realtimesave said:
lol what a crock of shit. must be some entitled poor millenial thought process going on here. hope your head doesn't explode.

Honestly, your job deserves to get ruined due to piracy, so you can get a taste of your own medicine
You have absolutely no reason to pirate video games

realtimesave · Oct 7, 2020

nachuz said:
Honestly, your job deserves to get ruined due to piracy, so you can get a taste of your own medicine
You have absolutely no reason to pirate video games

my job. and what job might that be? also why the fuck are you on gbatemp if you supposedly don't pirate.

midstor · Oct 7, 2020

HAHahahahahaha

smf · Oct 7, 2020

leerpsp said:
I was talking about how Nintendo can not do anything about the use of free homebrew apps and games as its not illegal

Depends on what country you're in

https://www.theverge.com/2015/10/27/9622560/jailbreak-video-game-console-sony-microsoft-dmca

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64bitmodels said:
yes
pirating nintendo games is sticking it to nintendo for being so anticonsumer lately

How are they anticonsumer?

DolphinPussy · Oct 7, 2020

Hells Malice said:
Looks like Bubba will be exploiting a vulnerability in their bums in federal prison

That sounds like heaven for the average GBAtemp user xD
Jokes aside...
I hope the latest version of SX OS is cracked just to rub salt on the wound, I remember being so disgusted when they asked for licenses. Those dirty slimy rats get what they deserve.

ChronoTrig · Oct 7, 2020

Volthax said:
Would it be possible to buy a SX Core/Lite and use less superior firmware Atmosphere to keep the system updated till the end of all time? Or can Nintendo patch the modchip as a whole?

Trolling?

godreborn · Oct 7, 2020

could be wrong as I haven't kept apprised of switch hacking much, but I thought the sx core/lite had software built into it to where you couldn't use atmosphere.

grabman · Oct 7, 2020

Lots of hate for sx os but I am not surprised. I for one enjoyed usb storage of xci especially since you can convert nsp to xci. I like how you can make xci with dlc and updates. Or multi xci for example. I prefer atmosphere for homebrew. I felt their price was fair. I understand that there are claims of stolen work. All these things aside I want to make a few points in light of something I recently experienced. Frankly due to some of the more trollish people here I will not discuss. Which is the point of forums I feel. But such is the culture here. Though there are some good folks here. They are rare. With that said.

There enemy of your enemy is your friend no? Look at the times? Things are getting rather questionable. Can we not all agree that we enjoy modified consoles? Can we not all agree on this one principle? Yes perhaps sometimes people make a modification that allows things you may not like. For me my pet peeve is things that allow online cheating. But for good sake! This is similar to freedom of speech! Why are some of you here supporting these actions by the govt/corps??!! We are losing our rights here people! Yeah sure I don't like people who make cheat devices but all in all it is intellectual work. It is a good thing for humans to do this. Humans who do these things and profit should not be imprisoned! And before you lecture me tell me have you done a day!? So why do I make my plea? Well let me tell you why. I recently lost my rights to share links on YouTube. This is just recently. Due to my posting of info for how to compile sm64pc on ps4. Look you let one thing go as a people. They don't stop! It's called the totalitarian tip toe. They will inch by inch strip you of all rights! The govt/corps are NOT YOUR FRIENDS! I for one say this should be protested. May I stand alone so be it. I rather live on my feet than die on my knees!

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me

ChronoTrig · Oct 7, 2020

godreborn said:
could be wrong as I haven't kept apprised of switch hacking much, but I thought the sx core/lite had software built into it to where you couldn't use atmosphere.

You can't with V2. V1 Erista you can-- I guess in July/August update they started to allow it? I just know that you can, because some members on here have done it.

DolphinPussy · Oct 7, 2020

grabman said:
There enemy of your enemy is your friend no?

I don't think so, I think charging for access is still charging for someone elses work, the least people could do as pirates is make the entire process as free as they can, sx did not follow that conduct and chose to try and cash in and take advantage of the big userbase who don't know any other method for the sake of convinience. In the end, they tried making it a business rather than a community, and for that, let them burn I say.

There's a reason this happened to SX and not the atmosphere crew.

godreborn · Oct 7, 2020

I used to belong to a site (got banned from it for speaking the truth) that would make little game "fixes" for ps3 content (like duplex for example). the way you do that is with the rap, but the irony is that you don't need a fix if you have the rap. just inject and play. however, they never released the raps (licenses), so that they had control of the scene. in a way, one could say they were doing the same thing as sx os -- unscrupulous actions in order to have control over the scene. yet, they're still around, now on the ps4 making backports and begging for money. I fail to see what's so different. they were asking for money in the ps3 scene too. the admin would periodically delete accounts that didn't contribute. are those two things so different? people praise that site, because they have no idea that "fixes" aren't even needed to play games, not unless you're an idiot and stay on lower firmware. what's the difference!?

TurtlePowerrr · Oct 7, 2020

[QUOTE="If you actually owned it, you wouldn't be banned for running third-party software and aftermarket firmware on it.[/QUOTE]

Funny thing is I have a hacked switch and I also get online with it with the original software and I have had no issues and no bans, so your point is moot.

godreborn · Oct 7, 2020

I've only been banned on one system, and I bought a new system to replace it, made a new account. it was the ps3. I was using the same account on the ps4 and the vita/pstv as well, but I've since corrected it with three separate accounts and never signing in. I got angry when I got banned, since my system was only used for testing, not playing games. however, I knew what I was getting into, so you can't really complain if you do get banned on any system. a lot of people self ban anyway, cuz no one wants a banned system even if you don't go online. if I ever do join the switch scene, I'll probably just buy a banned system, so I don't have to worry about it, plus it'll be a fraction the cost.

leerpsp · Oct 7, 2020

TurtlePowerrr said:
[QUOTE="If you actually owned it, you wouldn't be banned for running third-party software and aftermarket firmware on it.

You did not quote that guy the right way so i have to reply to you to reply to him since I can not find his post, There were court cases about this years back and it ruled in are favor, It was stated if you buy something you own it its yours to do with what you want, now software you are licensing to use but hardware nope. So If I buy a switch and found a way to put a bigger and better screen in (don't know how and would not i don't fix what is not broken) it is 100% legal for me to do so and can do it no matter what Nintendo tells me, I can even live steam it on twitter and tag Nintendo in it and would not be sued for showing that I installed a screen in my switch now they may ban me from there twitter but I would have nothing to worry about and plus any court case like that would be thrown out of court before it ever made news.

godreborn · Oct 7, 2020

I believe (possibly in Europe, not America) there was a new terms of service released for both the ps3 and the 360, which said that opening up your console does not void the warranty. I think that may be why only Europe got 5.5.4 on the wii u. there were two or three updates to the 360 regarding changes to the terms of service as well. afaik, that's all that's different with the latest dash kernel. the idea of being able to do with your console as you see fit is the argument geohot made against sony when he was sued. it's an interesting question to say the least. when you sign in to psn, you have to agree to their terms, but you sign nothing when you physically buy the system. I guess you enter into some sort of contract according to these companies.

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now that I think about it, you do have to sign a terms of service when you go through settings when you first turn the system on, but that would be after already buying it.

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