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[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election
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If you say that BLM isn't a big deal because most "protests" were "peaceful", then you must also admit that the Coronavirus isn't a big deal because most people who get it are asymptomatic.
BLM as an organization is peaceful. COVID-19 is a mindless force of nature that attempts to infect everybody and kills approximately 1% of people who are infected overall. There's no comparison.
That's like arguing any organization with a single bad actor is a bad organization.
BLM and ANTIFA are terrorist organizations made up of subhuman scum who have no problems burning down buildings and throwing molotov cocktails at innocent bystanders.
In comparison, the Coronavirus is a mild inconvenience.
Gonna focus on the key things here:
You're right, the Democrats have Super Delegates, further dwindling the voting of the people from whoever the individual views as best to a VERY specific pool that THEY choose from, rather than letting people outright pick whoever they feel would be right. Yes, they've 'stepped back', but they still VERY much exist.
This isn't even including the standard fair corruption of our system just HAVING political parties means, or the support of such parties, as they narrow opinions to who the parties choose for us, and the media supports that, and 3rd+ parties have been shoved off because of big money as a result.
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/27/9175...urder-after-driving-into-pro-trump-protesters
-Done by a BLM Group Leader.
https://nypost.com/2020/08/30/blm-activists-celebrated-as-trump-supporter-killed-devine/
https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/07/black-lives-matter-hypocrisy-cheering-violence/
-2016 but it checks out sir.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/blm-removes-website-language-blasting-nuclear-family-structure/
-Oh the juice on this one
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ar-iranian-phrase-death-to-america-goes-viral
-"Death to America" you say?
Want me to keep going? The Far left Coddle Black Supremacists and Terrorists too in the form of Antifa.
Like oh THIS little shithead:
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/20...re-set-inside-justice-center-in-late-may.html
Here's a racist one (like it or not):
Here's a fun one from the recent Proud Boys Rally that a BLM/Antifa put up there:
They also like attacking News Reporters:
Hilarious but related since it stars Seattle:
Still trying to find others but you get the point. There's a cubic fuckton if you look.
You're right, the Democrats have Super Delegates, further dwindling the voting of the people from whoever the individual views as best to a VERY specific pool that THEY choose from, rather than letting people outright pick whoever they feel would be right. Yes, they've 'stepped back', but they still VERY much exist.
This isn't even including the standard fair corruption of our system just HAVING political parties means, or the support of such parties, as they narrow opinions to who the parties choose for us, and the media supports that, and 3rd+ parties have been shoved off because of big money as a result.
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/27/9175...urder-after-driving-into-pro-trump-protesters
-Done by a BLM Group Leader.
https://nypost.com/2020/08/30/blm-activists-celebrated-as-trump-supporter-killed-devine/
https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/07/black-lives-matter-hypocrisy-cheering-violence/
-2016 but it checks out sir.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/blm-removes-website-language-blasting-nuclear-family-structure/
-Oh the juice on this one
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ar-iranian-phrase-death-to-america-goes-viral
-"Death to America" you say?
Want me to keep going? The Far left Coddle Black Supremacists and Terrorists too in the form of Antifa.
Like oh THIS little shithead:
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/20...re-set-inside-justice-center-in-late-may.html
Here's a racist one (like it or not):
“You lil’ white cracker”
— Andy Ngô 🏳️🌈 (@MrAndyNgo) September 30, 2020
BLM-antifa rioters gathered outside the Penumbra Kelly police building in SE Portland tonight after the debate. They shut down the roads again. #PortlandRiots #antifa https://t.co/NTQCqqvgcG
Here's a fun one from the recent Proud Boys Rally that a BLM/Antifa put up there:
They also like attacking News Reporters:
Local Skyline News Facebook group reporter Chad Nesbitt has been taken out by ambulance. He was surrounded by protesters and filming before he went down. @WLOS_13
— Caitlyn Penter (@caitlyn_penter) September 24, 2020
Hilarious but related since it stars Seattle:
Seattle pays ex-pimp $150,000 to offer 'alternatives to policing' https://t.co/Xn5rzZ5QMZ pic.twitter.com/1PXD880NNq
— New York Post (@nypost) September 22, 2020
Still trying to find others but you get the point. There's a cubic fuckton if you look.
"Damage" "something" are the two keywords to take here. So yes, destroying buildings is, by definition, violence. By law, it constitutes violence, and would be enforced as such if ever taken to a court of law.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53491223
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/29/us/seattle-protests-CHOP-CHAZ-autonomous-zone.html
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/cr...chaz/281-48392a9e-d760-42f3-9469-c99466ed7a9f
This is just in Portland early after George Floyd when the CHAZ was a thing. I went off the easiest to find. I could go harder, if I so needed.
It really isn't hard to find murders during the early days especially of the Floyd based riots. Hell: here's TWO right after Blake was shot for attempted assault and kidnapping:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53917170
I STILL can not, for the life of me, see this 'systemic racism'.
The term itself implies the system itself, the government, is racist. Not that they can be utilized in a racist fashion.
I have a mental exercise I use to help people understand my view.
Take a piece of paper. It is your "system" to convey text. But it can only work when things are drawn on it - this is how the system works. Ergo the system (government) is the paper. And you are the person using the system (the individual policemen, court officials, etc)
Write a statement that's racist on the paper. Is the paper suddenly racist? no.
Are you the racist in this example? Yes. YOU made the pen/cil do the work, and made the paper convey a racist message.
Any laws that ARE racist should be removed, without a doubt. But anyone claiming the law itself is inherently racist, that the system itself is racist needs to realize this strawman argument is going to find maybe a small handful of laws out of however many thousands have been made, if they exist at all.
The issue ultimately comes down to racist individuals using the law in a racist manner. Not the law itself being racist. And it bugs me to no end people constantly claiming "systemic racism" when the VERY CONCEPT of it has yet to be proven beyond Jim Crow laws - which have been UNDONE for DECADES now. There definitely are vestiges of racist laws, but they do not make the system as a whole racist.
Allegations, none have been proven. I'm still myself waiting for any hard evidence of any of this happening. Most of the time these cases seem incredulous or out of nowhere.
Trump lied about a pandemic, but there IS reason to have REASONABLE CAUSE to *think*, believe it or not, that Trump did so to prevent a panic.
Also about him following through NONE of his promises?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37982000
He's only completely failed 3. He's completed/suceeded at a vast majority.
Also, I can't even comment on the Rich/Poor thing, I ain't that familiar with economy to comment on it.
But, but .... silence is violence! White milk is racist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
- BLM is not a terrorist organization, nor is Antifa. This kind of hyperbolic nonsense is dangerous.
- Which one has killed over 200,000 Americans again?
BLM and ANTIFA are terrorist organizations and in addition, they are, ironically, the very thing that they oppose.
Also, which one kills younger people without underlying sicknesses?
Gonna focus on the key things here:
You're right, the Democrats have Super Delegates, further dwindling the voting of the people from whoever the individual views as best to a VERY specific pool that THEY choose from, rather than letting people outright pick whoever they feel would be right. Yes, they've 'stepped back', but they still VERY much exist.
This isn't even including the standard fair corruption of our system just HAVING political parties means, or the support of such parties, as they narrow opinions to who the parties choose for us, and the media supports that, and 3rd+ parties have been shoved off because of big money as a result.
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/27/9175...urder-after-driving-into-pro-trump-protesters
-Done by a BLM Group Leader.
https://nypost.com/2020/08/30/blm-activists-celebrated-as-trump-supporter-killed-devine/
https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/07/black-lives-matter-hypocrisy-cheering-violence/
-2016 but it checks out sir.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/blm-removes-website-language-blasting-nuclear-family-structure/
-Oh the juice on this one
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ar-iranian-phrase-death-to-america-goes-viral
-"Death to America" you say?
Want me to keep going? The Far left Coddle Black Supremacists and Terrorists too in the form of Antifa.
Like oh THIS little shithead:
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/20...re-set-inside-justice-center-in-late-may.html
Here's a racist one (like it or not):
https://twitter.com/i/status/1311248467801468928
Here's a fun one from the recent Proud Boys Rally that a BLM/Antifa put up there:
They also like attacking News Reporters:
https://twitter.com/CaitlynWLOS/status/1308954402074644482
Hilarious but related since it stars Seattle:
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1308386805104795648
Still trying to find others but you get the point. There's a cubic fuckton if you look.
- Superdelegates are stupid.
- There has never been a nomination where the superdelegates usurped the will of the voters.
- Superdelegates don't exist anymore, unless a candidate doesn't get a majority of delegates.
I'm not so keen on wading through your scattershot approach to disparaging BLM (you've included sources about asking people for alternatives to police that do nothing to demonstrate your claim the BLM is violent?), so I'll let you pick what you think is the best one, and we can talk about that.
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Please provide a source demonstrating that either of these organizations has been labeled a terrorist organization, particularly BLM.
- You didn't answer my question.
- The answer to this question isn't particularly relevant to my point.
- The answer is COVID-19, albeit it's rare.
I mean, most blm and antifa people aren't in an "organization" at all, right?
Lacius, there are tons of BLM videos of whole streets having shut stores as wide as the eye can see (with wooden barricades!), random people being attacked on the street, people having their property invaded and/or attacked, people being killed and murdered. Many of the videos only exist on liveleak or bitchute though.
If only a fraction of this had been done in the name of "Proud Boys" (or any other right-wing organization) you´d have no problem to call the organization terrorists.
I repeat what I had said earlier: Most Nazis did not murder people, most Islamists are peaceful. That says nothing about whether something is dangerous. If you join the proud boys after they (hypothetically) put cities on fire, then you can´t act innocent and call them "mostly peaceful".
You are rational on COVID19 but very irrational on this question. That said, I think Biden will actually do more to restore peace than Trump. Biden´s administration will avoid denouncing BLM or Antifa (see debate) but will use more force to stop the looting and violence.
If only a fraction of this had been done in the name of "Proud Boys" (or any other right-wing organization) you´d have no problem to call the organization terrorists.
I repeat what I had said earlier: Most Nazis did not murder people, most Islamists are peaceful. That says nothing about whether something is dangerous. If you join the proud boys after they (hypothetically) put cities on fire, then you can´t act innocent and call them "mostly peaceful".
You are rational on COVID19 but very irrational on this question. That said, I think Biden will actually do more to restore peace than Trump. Biden´s administration will avoid denouncing BLM or Antifa (see debate) but will use more force to stop the looting and violence.
Notice how interested he was in actually LOOKING through my links, but god forbid I bet he'd be humping them if they mentioned KKK, Proud Boys, Trump, or his sister.
Biden is definitively not going to denounce BLM and there's little chance he'll use force to quell the rioting. His reaction to it will be the same as you see from local officials in these liberal hell holes that are being set on fire. What's their reaction? Do nothing to prevent the violence and destruction then beg the rest of the country for money to fix the damage they let happen. I highly doubt Biden has the balls to make the hard decision to go in and arrest every single one of these domestic terrorists.
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The KKK were and still are a Democrat organization. I mean, the Demonrats started the KKK to harass and intimidate black voters and Republicans and stop them from voting. There also was no ridiculous party switch". I'm not sure why you're mixing it in with far right groups? Maybe you're thinking about Neo Nazi's as those are far right.
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I think knowingly passing AIDs to someone is a lot more akin to murder than not wearing a mask to Kroger, but California reduced that to a misdemeanor and I'll bet they hardly enforce it. But who cares? We don't need police anyway. That's what I learned from the smart people.
As far as I can tell the Proud Boys aren´t even white supremacists (at least if the former member Gavin McInnes is an indication; who I can´t stand btw). I was just using them as an example.
Oh I don't care if KKK are left or right, they're still ultimately a bad force. I'm just saying he'd chomp at the bait if the links I gave were about them.
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https://www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html
between 1860's and 1936, the two swapped.
in other words, people who say, didn't like slavery, became the democratic party. While the ones that did, became part of the republican party.
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/kkk-founded
1869 is when the KKK showed up.
Given that the KKK was extremely racist and didn't like blacks, it's easy to assume that they more closely align with the modern day republican party since if the "democratic party" politics before 1860 (which is the modern day republican party) was for slavery. Then disdain for black individuals would be strong among the red states. This doesn't mean all Republican's are racist. However KKK members are more likely to agree with right point of views versus left ones.
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Laughs in a google search
There was no "party swap". Not every single Republican in the USA suddenly decided to turn into racists like the Democrats were. The Republicans formed their party in part to end slavery and fought a Civil War to free slaves from Democrats. Just because a handful of Democrat senators decided to give up their racism and become Republicans doesn't mean the hundreds of millions of members suddenly "switched sides". That's a really stupid thing to believe.
The KKK was also started by the Democrats and a Democrat KKK leader was in the Senate up until a few years ago. There's tons of material that covers why the KKK started and it started mainly due to the Democrats not wanting Republicans or black people to vote. "Free State Of Jones" and "Lincoln" are historically accurate movies. The Democrats were the racist ones and they still are. Educated people who happen to be non-White see right through their deception. That's not to say there isn't racism coming from people on the right. It's just more common for the party of racism to be racist.
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Cool story but give me your source. You provide a lot of talking points with nothing to back it up. I played my hand. Show yours.
I'd like to post these up:
and the last video which is a very interesting video:
Basically the lady is saying there is no systematic racism for people of color, no white privileges, etc.
I do not know if any of these videos are truthful or not.
and the last video which is a very interesting video:
Basically the lady is saying there is no systematic racism for people of color, no white privileges, etc.
I do not know if any of these videos are truthful or not.
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