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Who won the first presidential debate?

Who won?

  • Trump

    Votes: 48 38.1%
  • Biden

    Votes: 78 61.9%

  • Total voters
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notimp

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What? I was talking solely about the debate
I'm talking about policy postitions that were presented in the debate, and for that it is important to say what happened in the past four years. Or at least starting with Covid, because before that it was largely business as usual and tax cuts. (And dismantling nuclear treaties).

If you want to focus purely on the 'who won the rhetorics' part of the debate, I think all you have to know is, that Trump pressured by both the moderator (only in that one instance, and trying to keep him from interrupting (equal time budget for both candidates should be upheld), in more instances.. ;) ) and Biden managed to say the following on the 'extreme right wing militias, may swarm the streets post election, armed'.

"Please stand down. And (insinuated: but) stand by."

Then pretty much low level bickering on rhetorical jabs for a good third of the debate, just like you see in this forum, just more than a third of the time.. ;)

And please, dont just go by style. (Who looked like they could dominate the other person. And did they do it? With words. This is not american gladiators.. ;) )

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...Russia and mental illness.
Oh yeah that part. Both parties blaimed the other side for being more cosy with Putin and China. The Putin part is largely overplayed, and so is the China part imho, because - similar as with climate change, but even more closely in position, both parties would roughly hold the same positions on Russian election interferance, or trying to prevent China from becoming the dominating world economy.

US soy farmers currently are hurting, if you want to know that. ;) But so are chinese development ventures.
 
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Needs a third option - "we won". That was the best WWE match this season, they should just replace Wallace with McMahon and remove all the pretense. Neither candidate said anything of substance in terms of policy and I heard a lot of stats made up on the spot, so nothing interesting in that sense, but between Biden's emotional appeals dead on into the camera that almost made him cry and Trump slamming him left and right like a ragdoll it was a hilarious spectacle. Can't wait for the cage rematch.
 

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I don't think anyone "won" Both did as well as anyone could have expected. Trump continues to do his biggest enemy and glass Joe over there said nothing of value. I don't think this really changed anyone's mind. errrrrrrrrr 6/10 an entertaining trash fire
 
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But it ISN'T true!
He's always been a clown
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Biden is an even bigger clown for saying 200 million Americans had died due to COVID-19 when the real figure was actually in the hundreds of thousands and not hundreds of millions lmfao.

People who vote for him have a screw loose.
 
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Biden is an even bigger clown for saying 200 million Americans had died due to COVID-19 when the real figure was actually in the hundreds of thousands and not hundreds of millions lmfao.

People who vote for him have a screw loose.
Just yesterday he was taking about "911 calls" while nonsense was spewing out from both sides of his mouth, seconds apart. His plan is not the Green New Deal, but the Green New Deal will pay for itself. He doesn't want to defund the police, but actually seconds later he isn't opposed to it. You couldn't pin him down to a single policy, he just kept swerving. He's not opposed to fracking except for the times he is. No more conventional power plants either, and that will "generate hard jobs" somehow. At this point anyone can make a wild guess on what his program is.
 
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Both too senile and out of touch screaming at the cloud, we are fucked by recession and pandemic with no competent leadership just makes me angry and sad
 

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Biden definitely won just because Trump couldn't compose himself for that entire time. He made a constant effort to dodge questions and couldn't give a straight answer when he wasn't spending all of his time insulting somebody. A debate shouldn't just be a braindead shit-slinging fest, even Biden would cut in on uninterrupted time. I didn't learn jack shit about either one's policies because of it, which sucks because I'm really interested about how they both would answer their questions because you know it's a debate and I want to actually learn more about who's running for president.
 

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